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John McCoy
 
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Default Re: Dave D on Windtunnel regarding DEj and the 3 - 05-20-2007 , 08:00 PM






"WildWeasel" <wweasel_24 (AT) zerospam (DOT) yahoo.com> wrote in
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Remember, we're talking "better equipment" between team members, not
between teams. Sure, teams have better or worse equipment, from
engines to machine tools to test to simulation ...
Having been gone the past week (in Maine, where it's freezing cold)
I guess I missed the exact theme of the thread...

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But your examples of "better equipment" are all people related, better
people, not engines, chassis or parts.
Well, everyone gets the same parts. The heads are all CNC, the gears
all come from the same place, everyone runs a Tex Racing transmission,
Wilwood brakes, etc, etc. The difference between teams is the level
of detail they put into how they use those parts.

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And doesn't each car have
their own head engine builder and head chassis builder who builds or
specifies the engine or chassis that fits *his* driver and his style
(and the track, the weather, the tire ...)?
As far as I know, no. The engines all come out of one shop, the
chassis all come from another. Certainly some drivers find they
like the feel of a particular chassis, and that one becomes "theirs",
but I don't think any team builds chassis or motors on a per-driver
basis (unless they're intentionally building an R&D car).

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And I'd suspect that a
good engine or chassis builder that puts together JG's engine or
chassis might not necessarily be able to get that level of perfect
under JJ or KyB or CM, if they're each looking for a different feel,
but I don't know that for a fact.
Well, now we're heading into setup, rather than chassis construction.
That's the crew chief and the engineer, rather than the chassis
builder, and certainly some drivers and crew chiefs can't get on the
same page about what the car needs to do.

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I remember being told by Randy
Dorton 10 or 12 ... hmmm or 15 ... years ago that getting an extra 5
HP didn't necessarily make a car faster if it made the handling bad
and it could actually make it worse, that communication between the
engine and chassis people was critical to achieve the right balance
and take full advantage of the potential.
That makes sense - at some tracks, the way the power comes in in the
middle RPM ranges is critical to how the car handles, and adding more
on top if it hurts the middle would slow you down. This seems to be
part of Toyota's current problem, incidently, they lack midrange and
it upsets the car coming off the corner. Susposedly they're as good
as everyone else in peak power. If that's so, you'd expect them to
do better at Fontana and Michigan, and to suck at places like Dover
and Loudon.

John



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