I read somewhere a long time ago that ARCA started before NASCAR was
established and Big Bill France had a hand in it. Arcaracing.com says
it didn't start until 1953 as the Midwest Association for Race Cars
(MARC). Has anyone heard anything to the contrary?

Pup
*88*

On 21 Mar 2006 05:49:25 -0800, Pup
wrote:

al gore invented arca in 1912, then
the internet in 1980.

"Pup" <puppinator7 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in news:1142948965.402961.311910
@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com:

Are you sure you're not thinking of IMCA (the folks who run
an extremely popular modified series)? IMCA goes back to
the WW1 era.

John

I THOUGHT it might have possibly been IMCA...but I can't find anything
historical at their website to support that either.

Pup
*88*

"Pup" <puppinator7 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in news:1143133848.739852.81240
@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

"The International Motor Contest Association (IMCA), organized in
1915, is the oldest active automobile racing sanctioning body in
the United States."

From: http://www.imca.com/about.php

(I'd guess the oldest "inactive" is the AAA, who sanctioned
Indy, and most of what's now handled by USAC, up until the
mid 1950's).

John

"John McCoy" <igopogo (AT) ix (DOT) netcom.com> wrote


Carey in Manvel

Carey Akin wrote:
'55 LeMans tragedy, race car into stands many spectators killed.

"Bill Jonesi" <jonesi (AT) pcmagic (DOT) net> wrote


Carey in Manvel

"Carey Akin" <cmakin (AT) att (DOT) net> wrote in news:uiWUf.618328$qk4.509048
@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:

True, altho that skips some intermediate steps. When Pierre Levegh
crashed into the spectators, killing 86, there was a huge outcry
against the "barbaric" sport of auto racing. Politicians in
many places, including several US states, talked about outlawing
auto racing, and companies close to the sport quickly moved to
distance themselves from it. The AAA saw that it was unwise
for them to continue to associate themselves with the sporting
side of automobiles, and quietly disposed of their competition
department (who walked down the hall and hung out a sign with
"USAC" on it).

This is worth remembering when people start with the "ditch
the plates, let them race" BS everytime we get to Daytona
and Talladega. Bobby Allison came damn close to repeating
Pierre Levegh's accident, and in today's legal and political
climate, an accident like that could very easily inspire the
same "make racing illegal" reaction that occured in 1955,
only with worse results.

John

"mark" <usenet1958 (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote in news:e43Vf.245$tZ.183@trndny03:

No, because today we have the roof flap. Since the flap is fairly
effective at keeping the cars on the ground, the risk of getting
more than one car into the fence is less now than then.

No, definately not. The plate is necessary to make the roof flaps
work (this is something which is apparently totally unknown to
most fans). The flaps have been tested extensively in the wind
tunnel, the last test I know of (which was several years ago)
showed the cars would start lifting, with the flaps deployed, at
204mph. Given the "improvement" in body shape since then, I
imagine the speed at which the flaps fail to work has dropped
by a few mph.

John