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Default Big track v small track - 01-12-2006 , 03:52 PM







I was watching the Michigan race (again) from 2005 and I think I prefer the big
track over the small track. It was exciting watching *everyone* racing. There
were cars *everywhere*. Some were in the high lane, some in the low lane and
some in the middle two lanes. It was exciting watching them passing each other
and being passed. I think I get more bored when the cars have to play follow
the leader (until you can slip under one and pass).

Another thing that impressed me more, for some reason, was the green flag pit
stops. The camera angle was from the exit of pit road looking down pit road.
Cars were coming in, stopping, guys were running around the cars like bees and
then the cars were going out like army ants. Looked like a well oiled machine
in the midst of chaos.
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Default Re: Big track v small track - 01-12-2006 , 04:23 PM






On 2006-01-12 15:52:16 -0500, Paul <ME (AT) MYISP (DOT) COM> said:

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I was watching the Michigan race (again) from 2005 and I think I prefer the big
track over the small track.
hmmmm..... we'll work on that. Don't ya worry, by mid-season we
should have all your newbie quirks worked out....

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It was exciting watching *everyone* racing. There
were cars *everywhere*. Some were in the high lane, some in the low lane and
some in the middle two lanes. It was exciting watching them passing each other
and being passed. I think I get more bored when the cars have to play follow
the leader (until you can slip under one and pass).

Another thing that impressed me more, for some reason, was the green flag pit
stops. The camera angle was from the exit of pit road looking down pit road.
Cars were coming in, stopping, guys were running around the cars like bees and
then the cars were going out like army ants. Looked like a well oiled machine
in the midst of chaos.
I gotta say, I do find your novel perspective very refreshing.


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Default Re: Big track v small track - 01-12-2006 , 06:03 PM



On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:23:40 -0500, Julia <nospam (AT) home (DOT) com> wrote:

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On 2006-01-12 15:52:16 -0500, Paul <ME (AT) MYISP (DOT) COM> said:

I was watching the Michigan race (again) from 2005 and I think I prefer the big
track over the small track.

hmmmm..... we'll work on that. Don't ya worry, by mid-season we
should have all your newbie quirks worked out....
Right now I hope not. :-)


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It was exciting watching *everyone* racing. There
were cars *everywhere*. Some were in the high lane, some in the low lane and
some in the middle two lanes. It was exciting watching them passing each other
and being passed. I think I get more bored when the cars have to play follow
the leader (until you can slip under one and pass).

Another thing that impressed me more, for some reason, was the green flag pit
stops. The camera angle was from the exit of pit road looking down pit road.
Cars were coming in, stopping, guys were running around the cars like bees and
then the cars were going out like army ants. Looked like a well oiled machine
in the midst of chaos.

I gotta say, I do find your novel perspective very refreshing.
Maybe because I haven't yet been tainted by "same-old same-old" boredom and
"that is just the way it is" thinking. I am like a little child learning
something new and asking, why.

I must say, though, I am rather surprised at my very strong emotions about some
things in NASCAR. I mean, why should I car if a driver gets sent to the rear? I
have no favorite driver. If I did and it was my driver that got sent to the
rear I could understand that.

It is all new and confusing --- and I am enjoying it.
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Paul of El Cajon


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Default Re: Big track v small track - 01-12-2006 , 06:28 PM




"Paul" <ME (AT) MYISP (DOT) COM> wrote

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On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:23:40 -0500, Julia <nospam (AT) home (DOT) com
wrote:

On 2006-01-12 15:52:16 -0500, Paul <ME (AT) MYISP (DOT) COM> said:

I was watching the Michigan race (again) from 2005 and I
think I prefer the big
track over the small track.

hmmmm..... we'll work on that. Don't ya worry, by mid-season
we
should have all your newbie quirks worked out....

Right now I hope not. :-)


It was exciting watching *everyone* racing. There
were cars *everywhere*. Some were in the high lane, some in
the low lane and
some in the middle two lanes. It was exciting watching them
passing each other
and being passed. I think I get more bored when the cars
have to play follow
the leader (until you can slip under one and pass).

Another thing that impressed me more, for some reason, was
the green flag pit
stops. The camera angle was from the exit of pit road
looking down pit road.
Cars were coming in, stopping, guys were running around the
cars like bees and
then the cars were going out like army ants. Looked like a
well oiled machine
in the midst of chaos.

I gotta say, I do find your novel perspective very refreshing.


Maybe because I haven't yet been tainted by "same-old same-old"
boredom and
"that is just the way it is" thinking. I am like a little
child learning
something new and asking, why.

I must say, though, I am rather surprised at my very strong
emotions about some
things in NASCAR. I mean, why should I car if a driver gets
sent to the rear? I
have no favorite driver. If I did and it was my driver that
got sent to the
rear I could understand that.

It is all new and confusing --- and I am enjoying it.
--
Paul of El Cajon
Catch any or all older races on ESPN Classic whenever you can.
That will really give you some new appreciation for the sport and
put a kink in your perspective ;-)




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Default Re: Big track v small track - 01-12-2006 , 07:00 PM



On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:28:56 -0600, "SG" <spaamtrapper (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

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Catch any or all older races on ESPN Classic whenever you can.
That will really give you some new appreciation for the sport and
put a kink in your perspective ;-)

I don't get ESPN Classic (if that is a network, just ESPN and ESPN2.

Care to explain what I would see if I did get it?
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Paul of El Cajon


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Default Re: Big track v small track - 01-12-2006 , 07:14 PM



On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 00:00:39 GMT,
Paul wrote:

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On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:28:56 -0600, "SG" <spaamtrapper (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

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I don't get ESPN Classic (if that is a network, just ESPN and ESPN2.

Care to explain what I would see if I did get it?
cars making easy passes every ten
seconds is boring. when it takes 10
laps of side by side racing is
entertaing. i do agree, bristol bump
and run is boring.


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Default Re: Big track v small track - 01-12-2006 , 08:15 PM



Paul <ME (AT) MYISP (DOT) COM> wrote in
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I was watching the Michigan race (again) from 2005 and I think I
prefer the big track over the small track. It was exciting watching
*everyone* racing. There were cars *everywhere*. Some were in the
high lane, some in the low lane and some in the middle two lanes.
Michigan can be like that - unfortunately, it only happens in
about 1/3rd of the races there. The remainder turn into fuel
economy runs, with everyone strung out all around the track
waiting to see who runs out before the end of the race. But
a good Michigan race is a race well worth seeing.

Rockingham always gave you the "cars everywhere" deal, but
unfortunately that's gone now.

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I
think I get more bored when the cars have to play follow the leader
(until you can slip under one and pass).
I agree with you, when you get a track where cars _can't_ pass,
as often happens on the 1.5 mile tracks like Vegas or Chicago.
But it's different when you look at the short tracks, or
Darlington. Passing can be done there, but it takes some
planning and some skill. Perhaps it takes a while to gain
an appreciation for it, to see the setup and then the success
(or failure, as the case may be) of the pass.

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Another thing that impressed me more, for some reason, was the green
flag pit stops. The camera angle was from the exit of pit road
looking down pit road.
Along those lines, you've got to watch for a restart at Pocono,
viewed from a camera in turn 1. The track's wide enough for
cars to spread out 8 wide, and if the leader doesn't get going
right sharply, they _will_ spread out 8 wide.

John


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Default Re: Big track v small track - 01-12-2006 , 09:46 PM



On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 01:15:27 -0000, John McCoy <igopogo (AT) ix (DOT) netcom.com> wrote:

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Michigan can be like that - unfortunately, it only happens in
about 1/3rd of the races there. The remainder turn into fuel
economy runs, with everyone strung out all around the track
waiting to see who runs out before the end of the race. But
a good Michigan race is a race well worth seeing.

Rockingham always gave you the "cars everywhere" deal, but
unfortunately that's gone now.
Is that the track that closed?


Quote:
I think I get more bored when the cars have to play follow the leader
(until you can slip under one and pass).

I agree with you, when you get a track where cars _can't_ pass,
as often happens on the 1.5 mile tracks like Vegas or Chicago.
But it's different when you look at the short tracks, or
Darlington. Passing can be done there, but it takes some
planning and some skill. Perhaps it takes a while to gain
an appreciation for it, to see the setup and then the success
(or failure, as the case may be) of the pass.
I will watch for that the next time I see a short track race.


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Another thing that impressed me more, for some reason, was the green
flag pit stops. The camera angle was from the exit of pit road
looking down pit road.

Along those lines, you've got to watch for a restart at Pocono,
viewed from a camera in turn 1. The track's wide enough for
cars to spread out 8 wide, and if the leader doesn't get going
right sharply, they _will_ spread out 8 wide.

John
That could be cool. I can't remember the race at Pocono last year. Hope they
show it on NASCAR Fast Forward.
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Paul of El Cajon


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Default Re: Big track v small track - 01-12-2006 , 11:17 PM




"Paul" <ME (AT) MYISP (DOT) COM> wrote

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On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:28:56 -0600, "SG"
spaamtrapper (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Catch any or all older races on ESPN Classic whenever you can.
That will really give you some new appreciation for the sport
and
put a kink in your perspective ;-)


I don't get ESPN Classic (if that is a network, just ESPN and
ESPN2.

Care to explain what I would see if I did get it?
--
Paul of El Cajon
I'm not sure how far they go back, but imagine this:

Cars you could recognize, Thunderbirds, Monte Carlos, Buicks -
shit what model was it, I forget.....etc...

No speed limit on pit road.

Pit crews with no helmets and only the top teams had crew
uniforms.

No cautions for a car spinning and not hitting anything.

Drivers going after each other after the race with no fear of
being fined or points taken away.


And numerous other things that my tired old mind can't remember
right now. I'm sure others won't mind to chime in.




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Default Re: Big track v small track - 01-13-2006 , 01:12 AM



On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:17:01 -0600, "SG" <spaamtrapper (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

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Cars you could recognize, Thunderbirds, Monte Carlos, Buicks -
shit what model was it, I forget.....etc...
That's cool.

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No speed limit on pit road.

Pit crews with no helmets and only the top teams had crew
uniforms.
I am for all the safety equipment anyone can dream up.

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No cautions for a car spinning and not hitting anything.
Cool


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Drivers going after each other after the race with no fear of
being fined or points taken away.
Boys will be boys.
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Paul of El Cajon


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