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Default Chase qualification should require a win - 08-23-2009 , 04:50 PM






With 4 drivers without a win in the top 12, and 5 others with a win outside
the chase, does anyone else agree giving priority to race winning teams (who
have attempted all races) first might be a good idea?

Imagine how hard drivers like Montoya/Biffle/Edwards/Newman would be
fighting for a win right now if they needed one to make the chase?

Currently, if drivers with a win ranked first the chase would look like
this;

Tony Stewart
Jimmie Johnson
Jeff Gordon
Denny Hamlin
Kurt Busch
Mark Martin
Kasey Kahne
Matt Kenseth
Kyle Busch
Brian Vickers
David Reutimann
Joey Logano

The added benefit is that right now we would statistically still have all
these guys fighting to get in (with enough, or close to enough points, and
just needing a single win to jump in)

Carl Edwards
Ryan Newman
Greg Biffle
Juan Montoya
Clint Bowyer
Marcos Ambrose
Jeff Burton
Casey Mears
Dale Earnhardt Jr.
Jamie McMurray


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Chad

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Bruin
 
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Default Re: Chase qualification should require a win - 08-23-2009 , 05:47 PM






On Aug 23, 5:50*pm, "Chad" <cbs... (AT) safemail (DOT) com> wrote:
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With 4 drivers without a win in the top 12, and 5 others with a win outside
the chase, does anyone else agree giving priority to race winning teams (who
have attempted all races) first might be a good idea?

Imagine how hard drivers like Montoya/Biffle/Edwards/Newman would be
fighting for a win right now if they needed one to make the chase?

Currently, if drivers with a win ranked first the chase would look like
this;

Tony Stewart
Jimmie Johnson
Jeff Gordon
Denny Hamlin
Kurt Busch
Mark Martin
Kasey Kahne
Matt Kenseth
Kyle Busch
Brian Vickers
David Reutimann
Joey Logano

The added benefit is that right now we would statistically still have all
these guys fighting to get in (with enough, or close to enough points, and
just needing a single win to jump in)

Carl Edwards
Ryan Newman
Greg Biffle
Juan Montoya
Clint Bowyer
Marcos Ambrose
Jeff Burton
Casey Mears
Dale Earnhardt Jr.
Jamie McMurray

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Chad
I agree with you completely. I had just been thinking the same thing
myself.

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Default Re: Chase qualification should require a win - 08-23-2009 , 06:01 PM



"Chad" <cbstun (AT) safemail (DOT) com> wrote

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With 4 drivers without a win in the top 12, and 5 others with a win
outside the chase, does anyone else agree giving priority to race winning
teams (who have attempted all races) first might be a good idea?

Imagine how hard drivers like Montoya/Biffle/Edwards/Newman would be
fighting for a win right now if they needed one to make the chase?

Currently, if drivers with a win ranked first the chase would look like
this;

Tony Stewart
Jimmie Johnson
Jeff Gordon
Denny Hamlin
Kurt Busch
Mark Martin
Kasey Kahne
Matt Kenseth
Kyle Busch
Brian Vickers
David Reutimann
Joey Logano

The added benefit is that right now we would statistically still have all
these guys fighting to get in (with enough, or close to enough points, and
just needing a single win to jump in)

Carl Edwards
Ryan Newman
Greg Biffle
Juan Montoya
Clint Bowyer
Marcos Ambrose
Jeff Burton
Casey Mears
Dale Earnhardt Jr.
Jamie McMurray


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Chad

The Chase involve earning the most points. It is not that hard of a
concept.

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Default Re: Chase qualification should require a win - 08-23-2009 , 06:40 PM



"Chad" <cbstun (AT) safemail (DOT) com> wrote in news:4a91b999 (AT) news (DOT) x-privat.org:

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With 4 drivers without a win in the top 12, and 5 others with a win
outside the chase, does anyone else agree giving priority to race
winning teams (who have attempted all races) first might be a good
idea?
A year or so ago someone, might have been David Poole, suggested
that a driver should get a 500 point bonus for their first win
of the year. That would achieve the result you're looking for,
the guys with one or more win would be seperated from those
without, and would be the ones fighting for the chase spots.

John

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Default Re: Chase qualification should require a win - 08-23-2009 , 06:46 PM



"John McCoy" <igopogo (AT) ix (DOT) netcom.com> wrote

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"Chad" <cbstun (AT) safemail (DOT) com> wrote in news:4a91b999 (AT) news (DOT) x-privat.org:

With 4 drivers without a win in the top 12, and 5 others with a win
outside the chase, does anyone else agree giving priority to race
winning teams (who have attempted all races) first might be a good
idea?

A year or so ago someone, might have been David Poole, suggested
that a driver should get a 500 point bonus for their first win
of the year. That would achieve the result you're looking for,
the guys with one or more win would be seperated from those
without, and would be the ones fighting for the chase spots.

John
It does not matter. You are just trading points.

Anything that fucks with the points system is just making changes for the
sake of making changes.

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Default Re: Chase qualification should require a win - 08-23-2009 , 07:31 PM



In article "Chad" <cbstun (AT) safemail (DOT) com> wrote:
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With 4 drivers without a win in the top 12, and 5 others with a win outside
the chase, does anyone else agree giving priority to race winning teams (who
have attempted all races) first might be a good idea?
I'd rather see Carl Edwards and Juan Montoya in, than Logano or Reutimann..
They outperformed those two over the course of 26 races.

26 races should be ample time to show you are championship material.
Because you are running in the middle of the pack, and stay out
when it rains, and the race never starts again, imo, should not give you
priority over a guy with a dozen top 5's for example.

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Default Re: Chase qualification should require a win - 08-23-2009 , 07:34 PM



On Aug 23, 5:50*pm, "Chad" <cbs... (AT) safemail (DOT) com> wrote:
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With 4 drivers without a win in the top 12, and 5 others with a win outside
the chase, does anyone else agree giving priority to race winning teams (who
have attempted all races) first might be a good idea?

Chad
No. Consistency is more important. Those drivers that won a race would
be in, if they had better total finishes. I like the old system. I
can't stand the "your locked in" bull crap. The 13th or worse driver,
runs better in the last ten races then a "locked in driver", and he/
they can't improve their position in the points race. Sorry, but to
me, that's a bunch of shit!

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Default Re: Chase qualification should require a win - 08-23-2009 , 07:41 PM



On Aug 23, 8:34*pm, twisted <thenited... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

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No. Consistency is more important. Those drivers that won a race would
be in, if they had better total finishes. I like the old system. I
can't stand the "your locked in" bull crap. The 13th or worse driver,
runs better in the last ten races then a "locked in driver", and he/
they can't improve their position in the points race. Sorry, but to
me, that's a bunch of shit!
They run one season, which equals 36 races. Not one season, split into
two seasons. First season 26 races, then the second one of 10. Hell,
lets split it up into 4th's. Then we can have more winners.

You run great all year. Then two of the last ten you have bad finishes
and your out! What a joke.

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Default Re: Chase qualification should require a win - 08-23-2009 , 07:43 PM



On Aug 23, 8:36*pm, Tim Shelton <noemail1... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
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The Chase is bullshit to begin with.
Agreed. *

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Default Re: Chase qualification should require a win - 08-23-2009 , 08:09 PM



"twisted" <thenitedude (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

On Aug 23, 8:34 pm, twisted <thenited... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
No. Consistency is more important. Those drivers that won a race would
be in, if they had better total finishes. I like the old system. I
can't stand the "your locked in" bull crap. The 13th or worse driver,
runs better in the last ten races then a "locked in driver", and he/
they can't improve their position in the points race. Sorry, but to
me, that's a bunch of shit!
They run one season, which equals 36 races. Not one season, split into
two seasons. First season 26 races, then the second one of 10. Hell,
lets split it up into 4th's. Then we can have more winners.

You run great all year. Then two of the last ten you have bad finishes
and your out! What a joke.

It was some simple minded cell phone bullshit and now that cell phone
company is out of business.

There was always a chase. It consisted of making good finishes. This make
believe chase is just for people who are stupid.

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