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Default Re: Crabby Cars cont'd - 05-23-2008 , 10:48 PM






On May 22, 9:11*pm, "armpit" <armarmpit... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
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UPDATE: NASCAR sent a memo to Sprint Cup teams this week putting a
limit on the amount of rear adjustment being made to create more
sideforce. The adjustment basically has the back tires turned to the
right with a rear toe adjustment, allowing the car to enter the turns
with more speed. It's not visibly noticeable on the turns, but on the
straightaways the car appears to be crabbing down the track sideways.
Darby said teams have been adjusting the rear end in excess of two
degrees. NASCAR limited the adjustment to one degree.(ESPN.com)m this
rule takes effect as of the race at Dover next weekend.(5-22-2008)
http://www.jayski.com/cupnews.htm

I had to restart this thread due to this new ruling. Quite frankly, I think
it's a bunch of crap.

No surprise that the rule got changed once Jeff Gordon complained. Anyone
wanna bet that a Hendrick car wins at Dover?
???


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Default Re: Crabby Cars cont'd - 05-24-2008 , 12:13 AM






armpit wrote:

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Fish wrote:

Why put limits on the amount of yaw? At some point aerodynamic drag

will slow the cars beyond the

point where "crabbing" is an advantage.

NASCAR has already dictated that everyone use EXACTLY the same car. As

long as the

NASCAR-approved parts are used, why not be allowed to get the most out

of a car?

Because the car can't be driven correctly onto the inspection ramps

anymore?...........


Is that required by the rule book?
It is, in that the car must pass inspection before going out on the
track. If they can't get the car onto the ramps, it can't be inspected.



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Default Re: Crabby Cars cont'd - 05-24-2008 , 09:56 AM



"armpit" <armarmpitpit (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in
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Because the car can't be driven correctly onto the inspection ramps
anymore?...........


Is that required by the rule book?
Yes.

To be more accurate, you're required to present your car for
inspection, whereever or however NASCAR finds it to be convenient
(so if NASCAR wanted to do it at the bottom of a swimming pool,
you'd have to figure out a way to get the car there).

John



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Default Re: Crabby Cars cont'd - 05-24-2008 , 11:12 AM



John McCoy wrote:
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"armpit" <armarmpitpit (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in
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Because the car can't be driven correctly onto the inspection ramps
anymore?...........
Is that required by the rule book?

Yes.

To be more accurate, you're required to present your car for
inspection, whereever or however NASCAR finds it to be convenient
(so if NASCAR wanted to do it at the bottom of a swimming pool,
you'd have to figure out a way to get the car there).

John

All that is required is to show up for inspection and get the car on the
ramp. If the car goes sideways down the track, it should be legal as
long as it gets on those silly ramps.


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Default Re: Crabby Cars cont'd - 05-24-2008 , 12:52 PM



On May 24, 12:13 am, Vandar <vanda... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
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armpit wrote:
"**81**" <winningest-pl... (AT) and (DOT) road-racer> wrote in message
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"Chip Thomas" <spama... (AT) gmail (DOT) net> wrote in message

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Fish wrote:

Why put limits on the amount of yaw? At some point aerodynamic drag

will slow the cars beyond the

point where "crabbing" is an advantage.

NASCAR has already dictated that everyone use EXACTLY the same car. As

long as the

NASCAR-approved parts are used, why not be allowed to get the most out

of a car?

Because the car can't be driven correctly onto the inspection ramps

anymore?...........

Is that required by the rule book?

It is, in that the car must pass inspection before going out on the
track. If they can't get the car onto the ramps, it can't be inspected.
Just heard Kyle Petty say that they (Penske, Roush, etc) would
jackup the rear of the car to get it to fit correctly.

So they were getting the car onto the ramp, but only half of the car
was being driven onto the ramp.

So until someone presents a rulebook.............



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Chip Thomas
 
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Default Re: Crabby Cars cont'd - 05-24-2008 , 03:03 PM



TS02_05champ wrote:
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On May 24, 12:13 am, Vandar <vanda... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
armpit wrote:
"**81**" <winningest-pl... (AT) and (DOT) road-racer> wrote in message
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"Chip Thomas" <spama... (AT) gmail (DOT) net> wrote in message
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Fish wrote:
Why put limits on the amount of yaw? At some point aerodynamic drag
will slow the cars beyond the
point where "crabbing" is an advantage.
NASCAR has already dictated that everyone use EXACTLY the same car. As
long as the
NASCAR-approved parts are used, why not be allowed to get the most out
of a car?
Because the car can't be driven correctly onto the inspection ramps
anymore?...........
Is that required by the rule book?
It is, in that the car must pass inspection before going out on the
track. If they can't get the car onto the ramps, it can't be inspected.

Just heard Kyle Petty say that they (Penske, Roush, etc) would
jackup the rear of the car to get it to fit correctly.

So they were getting the car onto the ramp, but only half of the car
was being driven onto the ramp.

So until someone presents a rulebook.............

There's no rule violation or NASCAR would have crushed the set-up weeks ago.



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