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CRU-Inet Criminals The 18th Amendment to the Constitution of The United States of America (intoxicating liquors are prohibited-1920) was repealed by The 21st Amendment-1933. Has there been a new 'Prohibition' Amendment added to The Constitution (intoxicating tobacco is prohibited-2005)? What's next to be prohibited--baloney burgers? Fat content deemed to be too high, charcoal causes cancer, etc., etc.. StockCar-related? We all use the Internet! Great series sponsor Winston gone. http://www.southbendtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060301/News01/603010419/CAT=News01 South Bend Tribune March 01, 2006 LANSING (AP) -- Michigan has extracted about $5.9 million from about 9,000 people who tried to dodge the state's $2-a-pack cigarette tax by shopping on the Internet, and thousands more could face similar assessments, officials say. In February 2005, Michigan subpoenaed 13 Internet sites for lists of their customers. So far, four have agreed to cooperate. Internet buyers of other products are supposed to pay the Michigan sales tax when they file their state income tax returns. But there is no such provision for the cigarette tax. [CRU: What's the collection rate on these other products?] It is a misdemeanor to possess unstamped cigarettes, or to bring into the state or sell between 6 and 14 cartons of untaxed cigarettes. It is a felony to transport or sell 15 cartons or more. So far, Michigan has not sought criminal penalties against the online buyers. About 1 in 4 adults in Michigan smokes. CRU: It appears The Revenooers are winning vs The Moonshiners. But they'll never totally beat us. Just like the British were unable to continue their 'Tea Tax' in the 1770s, Michigan and its cohorts will not be able to 'Stamp' out we bad tobacco users cuz now we can get ours from China, & they will bootleg anything at anytime! ![]() -- Crusader |
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snip I quit on a whim just over a year ago, and I still think pushing this "sin" tax over all other "sin" taxes just ain't right. Me, too, except I quite about four months ago. Just got tired of it. |
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"Nancy1" <nancy-dooley (AT) uiowa (DOT) edu> wrote in message news:1141247565.502151.321920 (AT) z34g2000cwc (DOT) googlegroups.com... snip I quit on a whim just over a year ago, and I still think pushing this "sin" tax over all other "sin" taxes just ain't right. Me, too, except I quite about four months ago. Just got tired of it. Michigan's behaviour is proof that the tax isn't about getting folks to quit, it is about jumping on the tobacco profit train. I wonder if state governments can be sued in much the same way tobacco companies are. After all, with a specific tobacco tax, it would seem to me that state governments would be co-conspirators in taking advantage of the nicotine addicted masses. Carey in Manvel |
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Me, too, except I quite about four months ago. Just got tired of it. Michigan's behaviour is proof that the tax isn't about getting folks to quit, it is about jumping on the tobacco profit train. I wonder if state governments can be sued in much the same way tobacco companies are. After all, with a specific tobacco tax, it would seem to me that state governments would be co-conspirators in taking advantage of the nicotine addicted masses. Carey in Manvel |
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Of course they are - that's the point. It's a no-brainer tax - there isn't any defense put forth by a smoker, for his habit - the smoke offends nearly everyone, even smokers, and pollutes the air and makes people sick. What's to like? |
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(And speaking of the tobacco profit train - I wonder what other states have done with their portions of the huge "tobacco settlement" of a few years ago. I know Iowa said they would spend their windfall on tobacco-prevention programs and treatment of tobacco-related illness, but have they? No way. They've spent the millions and millions of dollars on just every other fly-by-night scheme that's come down the pike, with no apologies to the taxpayers. As a state, we're still broke; our property taxes are high; our education system is getting to be a mess. If Iowa had spent the millions on these problems, most of us taxpayers wouldn't have a problem. Instead, there have been huge outlays on promoting tourism and other similar high-falutin' ideas. Doesn't anyone else see the problem? Iowa is NOT a tourist destination and no matter what is built or developed here, it never will be. Does anyone ever save up for a vacation in Iowa? Not a chance. LOL.) Sorry, this is a rant for another time.... No, it's not, and I can even turn it back into racing without mentioning |
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mean covered bridges and loose farm wives. Of course the group that would be attracted is somewhat of a niche demographic, but I am in it. Yes, Iowa is one of the places I need to get to before I die. One of these days I may even spend my yearly vacation savings to go there. Of what am I speaking? Why, the Knoxville Nationals, of course. |
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"Nancy1" <nancy-dooley (AT) uiowa (DOT) edu> wrote in message news:1141317497.608996.60820 (AT) u72g2000cwu (DOT) googlegroups.com... Of course they are - that's the point. It's a no-brainer tax - there isn't any defense put forth by a smoker, for his habit - the smoke offends nearly everyone, even smokers, and pollutes the air and makes people sick. What's to like? No argument there. (And speaking of the tobacco profit train - I wonder what other states have done with their portions of the huge "tobacco settlement" of a few years ago. I know Iowa said they would spend their windfall on tobacco-prevention programs and treatment of tobacco-related illness, but have they? No way. They've spent the millions and millions of dollars on just every other fly-by-night scheme that's come down the pike, with no apologies to the taxpayers. As a state, we're still broke; our property taxes are high; our education system is getting to be a mess. If Iowa had spent the millions on these problems, most of us taxpayers wouldn't have a problem. Instead, there have been huge outlays on promoting tourism and other similar high-falutin' ideas. Doesn't anyone else see the problem? Iowa is NOT a tourist destination and no matter what is built or developed here, it never will be. Does anyone ever save up for a vacation in Iowa? Not a chance. LOL.) Sorry, this is a rant for another time.... No, it's not, and I can even turn it back into racing without mentioning Winston Cup. There actually is a big tourist draw for Iowa, and I don't mean covered bridges and loose farm wives. Of course the group that would be attracted is somewhat of a niche demographic, but I am in it. Yes, Iowa is one of the places I need to get to before I die. One of these days I may even spend my yearly vacation savings to go there. Of what am I speaking? Why, the Knoxville Nationals, of course. But, I am the kind of guy who thinks a week in Indiana in the summer is a viable alternative to a week on the Mexican Caribbean. I am just glad my girlfriend does, too. In fact, if we do go to Mexico this year, I believe that she will be truly disappointed about not going back to Indiana. The wife, well let's just say that she didn't feel that way. Which is why she is an ex (among other things, of course). Carey in Manvel |
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There actually is a big tourist draw for Iowa, and I don't mean covered bridges and loose farm wives. Of course the group that would be attracted is somewhat of a niche demographic, but I am in it. Yes, Iowa is one of the places I need to get to before I die. One of these days I may even spend my yearly vacation savings to go there. Of what am I speaking? Why, the Knoxville Nationals, of course. Iowa also has the Midwest Old Threshers Reunion in Mt. Pleasant. Many thousands of people, from all over the country, spend a week of their vacation in this small town and many come every year. Dave |
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Iowa also has the Midwest Old Threshers Reunion in Mt. Pleasant. Many thousands of people, from all over the country, spend a week of their vacation in this small town and many come every year. |
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