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Default Re: Darlington, Parity and the COT - 05-14-2007 , 03:51 PM






"Nancy2" <nancy-dooley (AT) uiowa (DOT) edu> wrote

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Actually, it seemed like whatever car had clean air, was the best/
fastest car. And it was really boring when the leading car was 3
seconds ahead of the second car, and so forth down the line. The best
racing action was behind first place.

For parity, if that's what Nascar really wants, they should continue
to work on the COT so that clean air/dirty air doesn't make such a big
difference.
N.

Curious--Did the announcers ever speak the term Aero Push?
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Default Re: Darlington, Parity and the COT - 05-14-2007 , 05:51 PM






On 14 May 2007 06:22:49 -0700, Nancy2 <nancy-dooley (AT) uiowa (DOT) edu> wrote:

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Actually, it seemed like whatever car had clean air, was the best/
fastest car. And it was really boring when the leading car was 3
seconds ahead of the second car, and so forth down the line. The best
racing action was behind first place.

For parity, if that's what Nascar really wants, they should continue
to work on the COT so that clean air/dirty air doesn't make such a big
difference.

N.
I'd call those valid points almost ANYWHERE outside of Darlington.
Mainly because a lot of the strung out, multi-second leads, are a
product of that track. Given the layout and the effectively narrow
racing width, that's just how it is there. We could race the CoT
there, the old car, the older cars, even something totally new (IROC
raced there IIRC) and the racing ultimately would be the same. (Ned
Jarrett once won a race there by 15 laps....that's laps, not seconds).

It's a product of the narrow groove, the old asphalt, and so on. The
race yesterday, to me - a fan whose been attending races there in
person since the mid-1970s - wasn't all that different than any other
race I've ever watched there. Tells me the common denominator is the
track, and not the cars or the drivers. But it was the same old same
old - you could only go low on fresh tires and when someone would back
off and let you, cars overheat due to rubber debris clogging up the
radiator/cooling ducts, people (even the leaders) slapping the wall,
even when alone and out front, so on and so forth. Just a normal
Darlington race to me, the cars just looked a little different.

As for aero-push: Likely never a factor there yesterday. Speeds in the
corners were down in the low 120s, speeds at the end of the straights
were barely getting into the 150s good. Those aren't really *high*
enough to cause any great amount of aero-push. That comes moreso when
the corner entry speeds are routinely above 180mph - like the D-oval
sisters (AMS, LMS, TMS) or the big flatties like Fontana, Michigan,
Chicago and Kansas...At that point aero-push is a lot more likely than
it was yesterday. If they could'nt pass yesterday, it was likely due
more to worn out tires over any aero-disadvantage to being behind
someone. If they had fresh tires yesterday, they could go low and
drive by their competitors like they were spinning their wheels, so to
speak. If there had been more laps to go at the end, those that got
fresh tires would have easily been able to run down JG and passed him,
IMHO - dirty or clean air be damned.


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Default Re: Darlington, Parity and the COT - 05-15-2007 , 06:48 AM



Sure is quiet around here....



Wonder why? Was there a race on sunday?













Maybe they're busy throwing cheap beer and chicken bones at their B/W tv...


"Rick" <pearl (AT) cray (DOT) com> wrote

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On May 14, 8:22 am, Nancy2 <nancy-doo... (AT) uiowa (DOT) edu> wrote:
Actually, it seemed like whatever car had clean air, was the best/
fastest car. And it was really boring when the leading car was 3
seconds ahead of the second car, and so forth down the line. The best
racing action was behind first place.

For parity, if that's what Nascar really wants, they should continue
to work on the COT so that clean air/dirty air doesn't make such a big
difference.

N.

Hamlin and JJ woudd have caught and passed JG if the
cars with old tires hadn't blocked them. I'm not complaining,
that's what they should do to protect their position. I thought
that race had a lot of drama. Will JG's car blow up?
Will RN wreck DH and JJ on turn 4?

-Rick





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Default Re: Darlington, Parity and the COT - 05-15-2007 , 07:38 AM




"Nancy2" <nancy-dooley (AT) uiowa (DOT) edu> wrote


Quote:
Actually, it seemed like whatever car had clean air, was the best/
fastest car. And it was really boring when the leading car was 3
seconds ahead of the second car, and so forth down the line. The best
racing action was behind first place.

Yup - out in front is generally the best place to be. That's pretty much
true of most tracks. It's also true that the best racing is often behind
the leader. But... that makes it boring???? Hmmmm....


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For parity, if that's what Nascar really wants, they should continue
to work on the COT so that clean air/dirty air doesn't make such a big
difference.

Why?

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