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Default Darlington, Parity and the COT - 05-14-2007 , 08:22 AM






Actually, it seemed like whatever car had clean air, was the best/
fastest car. And it was really boring when the leading car was 3
seconds ahead of the second car, and so forth down the line. The best
racing action was behind first place.

For parity, if that's what Nascar really wants, they should continue
to work on the COT so that clean air/dirty air doesn't make such a big
difference.

N.


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Default Re: Darlington, Parity and the COT - 05-14-2007 , 08:34 AM






On May 14, 8:22 am, Nancy2 <nancy-doo... (AT) uiowa (DOT) edu> wrote:
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Actually, it seemed like whatever car had clean air, was the best/
fastest car. And it was really boring when the leading car was 3
seconds ahead of the second car, and so forth down the line. The best
racing action was behind first place.

For parity, if that's what Nascar really wants, they should continue
to work on the COT so that clean air/dirty air doesn't make such a big
difference.

N.
Hamlin and JJ woudd have caught and passed JG if the
cars with old tires hadn't blocked them. I'm not complaining,
that's what they should do to protect their position. I thought
that race had a lot of drama. Will JG's car blow up?
Will RN wreck DH and JJ on turn 4?

-Rick




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Default Re: Darlington, Parity and the COT - 05-14-2007 , 10:43 AM




"Rick" <pearl (AT) cray (DOT) com> wrote

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Hamlin and JJ woudd have caught and passed JG if the
cars with old tires hadn't blocked them.
Well ............... thatsame argument could be made for ANY (mile or less)
track when one gets a caution with 20 laps to go. "Track position,
.......................... track position". It can work for you (i.e. pitting
when some of the leaders don't) if there are fewer cars on the lead lap -
but when you lose a dozen spots on these short tracks, with >10 to go (i.e.
lapped cars are still ahead of you and between you and the leader as well) -
but not in this case. It wasn't blocking, per se - it was simply to much
slower traffic.

I'm not complaining,
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that's what they should do to protect their position. I thought
that race had a lot of drama. Will JG's car blow up?
Will RN wreck DH and JJ on turn 4?

-Rick





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Default Re: Darlington, Parity and the COT - 05-14-2007 , 10:59 AM



On May 14, 8:34 am, Rick <p... (AT) cray (DOT) com> wrote:
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On May 14, 8:22 am, Nancy2 <nancy-doo... (AT) uiowa (DOT) edu> wrote:

Actually, it seemed like whatever car had clean air, was the best/
fastest car. And it was really boring when the leading car was 3
seconds ahead of the second car, and so forth down the line. The best
racing action was behind first place.

For parity, if that's what Nascar really wants, they should continue
to work on the COT so that clean air/dirty air doesn't make such a big
difference.

N.

Hamlin and JJ woudd have caught and passed JG if the
cars with old tires hadn't blocked them. I'm not complaining,
that's what they should do to protect their position. I thought
that race had a lot of drama. Will JG's car blow up?
Will RN wreck DH and JJ on turn 4?

-Rick
It did have great drama in places - I was waiting for someone to knock
JPM off the track, and I wonder at the change in Newman. And when is
Nascar going to pull (again) David Ragan's ticket until he learns to
race? Still, I'd rather see two-wide for most of the race, than one
out front for a long time. (But I'm really glad JG didn't blow up
UNTIL he hit VL!)

I don't think JJ could have beat JG off in the closing laps - JG was
hung right on his bumper during the last few laps before JJ's fatal
pit stop. Hamlin, probably....he had made up half the lag time when
the race ended. Denny just ran out of laps.

N.



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Default Re: Darlington, Parity and the COT - 05-14-2007 , 11:04 AM



On May 14, 10:43 am, "Rod's SHAW" <rod.g... (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote:

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but not in this case. It wasn't blocking, per se - it was simply to much
slower traffic.
JG had three friends during those last few laps; RN,
nascar officials for not throwing the caution, and lady
luck. You take'em anyway you can get'em.

BTW, isn't it funny how nascar did a big 180 on the
whole caution thing. I mean, one minute they throw
a caution when a driver farts and now they wait
for a car to stop on the track. Do you think they
are listening to the fans or did TS hit a nerve when
he made the wrestling comment? Again, I'm not
complaining, I just find it interesting.

-Rick




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Default Re: Darlington, Parity and the COT - 05-14-2007 , 11:30 AM




"Rick" <pearl (AT) cray (DOT) com> wrote

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On May 14, 10:43 am, "Rod's SHAW" <rod.g... (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote:

but not in this case. It wasn't blocking, per se - it was simply to much
slower traffic.

JG had three friends during those last few laps; RN,
nascar officials for not throwing the caution, and lady
luck. You take'em anyway you can get'em.
Can't disagree with that ............... but the smoking silver car was off
the racing line LOLOLOLOL !

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BTW, isn't it funny how nascar did a big 180 on the
whole caution thing. I mean, one minute they throw
a caution when a driver farts and now they wait
for a car to stop on the track.
There is little doubt that NASCAR appears to be using biased discretion wrt
turning the flashing orange lights on.

Do you think they
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are listening to the fans or did TS hit a nerve when
he made the wrestling comment?
TS has hit many a nerve

Again, I'm not
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complaining, I just find it interesting.
"Intriquing", may better describe :>)

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-Rick





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Default Re: Darlington, Parity and the COT - 05-14-2007 , 11:52 AM



On May 14, 12:04 pm, Rick <p... (AT) cray (DOT) com> wrote:
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On May 14, 10:43 am, "Rod's SHAW" <rod.g... (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote:

but not in this case. It wasn't blocking, per se - it was simply to much
slower traffic.

JG had three friends during those last few laps; RN,
nascar officials for not throwing the caution, and lady
luck. You take'em anyway you can get'em.

BTW, isn't it funny how nascar did a big 180 on the
whole caution thing. I mean, one minute they throw
a caution when a driver farts and now they wait
for a car to stop on the track. Do you think they
are listening to the fans or did TS hit a nerve when
he made the wrestling comment? Again, I'm not
complaining, I just find it interesting.

-Rick
And at one point in the race, that let ALL of the cars finish making
their green flag pit-stops before throwing a caution for debris.

Good job Tony!



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Default Re: Darlington, Parity and the COT - 05-14-2007 , 12:24 PM



On May 14, 11:04 am, Rick <p... (AT) cray (DOT) com> wrote:
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On May 14, 10:43 am, "Rod's SHAW" <rod.g... (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote:

but not in this case. It wasn't blocking, per se - it was simply to much
slower traffic.

JG had three friends during those last few laps; RN,
nascar officials for not throwing the caution, and lady
luck. You take'em anyway you can get'em.

BTW, isn't it funny how nascar did a big 180 on the
wh Didole caution thing. I mean, one minute they throw
a caution when a driver farts and now they wait
for a car to stop on the track. Do you think they
are listening to the fans or did TS hit a nerve when
he made the wrestling comment? Again, I'm not
complaining, I just find it interesting.

-Rick

Tony hit a BIG nerve. His team mate btw may have hit another one in
the post race interviews. Did anyone else here him say there was
metal on the track, two grooves down from the wall right in the racing
line and no caution? Then he goes on and says that if I had been
leading the caution would have flown. Some teams get all the breaks
and we can't catch one.

Denny isn't one that very often runs his mouth. When he does its
usually smart to listen. Frankly the creditability of the entire
series now is openly questioned and that can't be good for the cash
flow.



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Default Re: Darlington, Parity and the COT - 05-14-2007 , 12:46 PM



On May 14, 12:24 pm, Mark <mblackwell1... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
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Denny isn't one that very often runs his mouth. When he does its
usually smart to listen. Frankly the creditability of the entire
series now is openly questioned and that can't be good for the cash
flow.
I think nascar is gun-shy. They didn't want to have influence
on who won the race, so they let'em race.




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Default Re: Darlington, Parity and the COT - 05-14-2007 , 03:10 PM



"Mark" <mblackwell1958 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

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On May 14, 11:04 am, Rick <p... (AT) cray (DOT) com> wrote:
On May 14, 10:43 am, "Rod's SHAW" <rod.g... (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote:
but not in this case. It wasn't blocking, per se - it was simply to much
slower traffic.

JG had three friends during those last few laps; RN,
nascar officials for not throwing the caution, and lady
luck. You take'em anyway you can get'em.

BTW, isn't it funny how nascar did a big 180 on the
wh Didole caution thing. I mean, one minute they throw
a caution when a driver farts and now they wait
for a car to stop on the track. Do you think they
are listening to the fans or did TS hit a nerve when
he made the wrestling comment? Again, I'm not
complaining, I just find it interesting.
-Rick

Tony hit a BIG nerve. His team mate btw may have hit another one in
the post race interviews. Did anyone else here him say there was
metal on the track, two grooves down from the wall right in the racing
line and no caution? Then he goes on and says that if I had been
leading the caution would have flown. Some teams get all the breaks
and we can't catch one.

Denny isn't one that very often runs his mouth. When he does its
usually smart to listen. Frankly the creditability of the entire
series now is openly questioned and that can't be good for the cash flow.

While we're giving credit to drivers who are finally speaking out
on 'competition cautions' 1st mentioned by TS, then his teammate DH,
how bout JG agreeing with DH? Then questioning why a rollbar padding
caution was called at Lap 333?
IMO, NA$CAr has cleaned up their debris cautions,
just not far enuf yet.
CRU




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