Too late, Jack

Wondered about RCR's resurgence last year and the Hendrick lock this year?

Per Mulhern at
http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Sa...=1037645509200

Jack Roush said he's just ordered the latest piece of high-dollar racing
technology, a seven-post shaker rig, a computerized machine that a race car can be
mounted on, which uses large hydraulic pistons to mimic the bumps and lumps of a
500-mile race. Richard Childress has had one for several years; Rick Hendrick just
installed one himself, and Jeff Gordon said that exotic piece of equipment has
been key to the team's dominance.

"We've got a seven-post rig test machine now in our facility," Gordon said. "Last
year was about getting it put in and then trying to figure out how to utilize the
information that we get from it. Now it's really starting to pay off for us.

"And if you look at Childress' success, I would say that is one of the main
reasons they've stepped up so much over the last year, because they were one of
the first teams to have one."

--
Tom in Bristol...Sigh.





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Tom Duwe wrote:

Wondered about RCR's resurgence last year and the Hendrick lock this year?

Per Mulhern at
http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Sa...=1037645509200

Jack Roush said he's just ordered the latest piece of high-dollar racing
technology, a seven-post shaker rig, a computerized machine that a race car can be
mounted on, which uses large hydraulic pistons to mimic the bumps and lumps of a
500-mile race. Richard Childress has had one for several years; Rick Hendrick just
installed one himself, and Jeff Gordon said that exotic piece of equipment has
been key to the team's dominance.

"We've got a seven-post rig test machine now in our facility," Gordon said. "Last
year was about getting it put in and then trying to figure out how to utilize the
information that we get from it. Now it's really starting to pay off for us.

"And if you look at Childress' success, I would say that is one of the main
reasons they've stepped up so much over the last year, because they were one of
the first teams to have one."

I hope nascar sees the monster it has created.
There will be three maybe four car owners that
will win all of the races because they have the
money for the technology. If and when people start
to see this racing will not be as popular.
Although the people that follow wrestling believe
it is real so maybe not. I think a lot of the new
fans are like the wrestling fans and will buy
anything.

"Rod" <bf (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote

I hope nascar sees the monster it has created. There will be three maybe
four car owners that will win all of the races because they have the money
for the technology. If and when people start to see this racing will not
be as popular.

You can't win, ... for losing. There are many a long_time NASCAR fan in here
who claim the exact opposite, .... i.e. that NASCAR'S (feeble ??) attempt to
create parity by harnessing the elite (whether it be drivers, teams or
technology) is in fact what is (or may be, at the very least) jeopardizing
the sport (this series, namely).

You can't have it both ways.

Although the people that follow wrestling believe it is real so maybe not.
I think a lot of the new fans are like the wrestling fans and will buy
anything.

"Rod" <bf (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote

I hope nascar sees the monster it has created.
There will be three maybe four car owners that
will win all of the races because they have the
money for the technology.

And... they have the people that can understand what the technology is
telling them, and have the insight and knowledge to build something better
as a result. Isn't that how it should be? There will always be the lessers
and the greaters.

If and when people start
to see this racing will not be as popular.
Although the people that follow wrestling believe
it is real so maybe not. I think a lot of the new
fans are like the wrestling fans and will buy
anything.

Why would you say this would make racing less popular? The best teams are
those who know how to build the best cars. What the sport needs is more
room for those who are truly talented, to take advantage of that talent.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE (AT) alltel (DOT) net

Why would you say this would make racing less popular? The best teams are
those who know how to build the best cars. What the sport needs is more
room for those who are truly talented, to take advantage of that talent.

What you are saying is true except for one
problem. The best teams that build the best cars
are the ones that have the money to hire the best
people and buy the technology to be the best.
There may be people just a talented that will
never see the success because they don't have the
money to compete. Bottom line Four teams win all
of the races and it gets too boring to watch. Wait
and see if I am not right.

"Rod" <bf (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote

Why would you say this would make racing less popular? The best teams
are
those who know how to build the best cars. What the sport needs is more
room for those who are truly talented, to take advantage of that talent.

What you are saying is true except for one
problem. The best teams that build the best cars
are the ones that have the money to hire the best
people and buy the technology to be the best.
There may be people just a talented that will
never see the success because they don't have the
money to compete. Bottom line Four teams win all
of the races and it gets too boring to watch. Wait
and see if I am not right.

Yeah - you're right that the best teams attract the best team members, but
that's just the way it is - always has been. There's nothing wrong with
that. Life is a stack, from the lessers to the greaters. It seldom really
works out that the equally talented find themselves stuck in the lower
teams. Some don't find it boring for four teams - or even one team to win
all the races. There's plenty of other racing on the track to watch.
Sometimes leaders take off and run away. That only lasts for a while and
someone comes along and dethrones that leader. It's just the way it works.
Many of us don't want to see "equals" for the sake of stifling true leaders.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE (AT) alltel (DOT) net

"Rod" <bf (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote

snip

What you are saying is true except for one problem. The best teams that build
the best cars are the ones that have the money to hire the best people and buy
the technology to be the best.

Yep. Did you pick up on the comment during the last Inside Nextel Cup that
Hendrick has 60 (did I hear right??...*60*!?) PHDs...not Bachelors, not Masters,
but Docs!

That along with the 560 employees and a 7-post shaker and the 'pull-down' machine
that Sim mentioned (what-ever it is when it's at home), and the 20-some test
sessions that Green ran (David, not Jeff), might...just *might* have contributed
to where Hendrick teams are these days on the CoT.

There may be people just a talented that will never see the success because they
don't have the money to compete. Bottom line Four teams win all of the races and
it gets too boring to watch. Wait and see if I am not right.

The Lady in Black will tell us a lot...we'd learn more at Tejas or Atlanta...wish
they were on the CoT schdule this year instead of next.

--
Tom in Bristol



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On May 9, 12:39 pm, "Tom Duwe" <tom... (AT) bvunet (DOT) net> wrote:

"Rod" <b... (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote in messagenews:6Aa0i.9659$s7.3116 (AT) trndny05 (DOT) ..

snip

What you are saying is true except for one problem. The best teams that build
the best cars are the ones that have the money to hire the best people and buy
the technology to be the best.

Yep. Did you pick up on the comment during the last Inside Nextel Cup that
Hendrick has 60 (did I hear right??...*60*!?) PHDs...not Bachelors, not Masters,
but Docs!

That along with the 560 employees and a 7-post shaker and the 'pull-down' machine
that Sim mentioned (what-ever it is when it's at home), and the 20-some test
sessions that Green ran (David, not Jeff), might...just *might* have contributed
to where Hendrick teams are these days on the CoT.

After Sundays race Chad Knaus said the reason they are winning with
the CoT is because they have a lot more resources than any other team.

That is right from the horses mouth.

In article <1178731407.784140.150860 (AT) q75g2000hsh (DOT) googlegroups.com>, Ron <BigELilE05 (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote:

After Sundays race Chad Knaus said the reason they are winning with
the CoT is because they have a lot more resources than any other team.

That is right from the horses mouth.

While they did win the race at Richmond, other circumstances
could have contributed as well.
Obviously you can never say 'matter of factly'..

They didn't have anything over Kurt Busch, or Kevin Harvick,
other than better luck.
Two different teams.


Dan
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I'm going to stop putting things off.
Starting tomorrow.

"Chuck Steak" <chuck_steak (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote

In article <1178731407.784140.150860 (AT) q75g2000hsh (DOT) googlegroups.com>, Ron
BigELilE05 (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote:

After Sundays race Chad Knaus said the reason they are winning with
the CoT is because they have a lot more resources than any other team.

That is right from the horses mouth.

While they did win the race at Richmond, other circumstances
could have contributed as well.
Obviously you can never say 'matter of factly'..

They didn't have anything over Kurt Busch, or Kevin Harvick,
other than better luck.
Two different teams.

I'll just add that the NYYankees have not won ALL the championships
and with the equalizer - The Chase, HMS may not even win
the '07 Championship.
My main reason for enjoying StockCarRacin is that there seems to be
a whole lot of variables that prevents the obvious moneyed teams
from winning it all every year.
CRU

Dan
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I'm going to stop putting things off.
Starting tomorrow.