Dodge in trouble

#1

Apparently nickles & dimes mean more to Dodge
than driver/fan loyalty?

Dodge fined Petty for driving a Chevy
SCENEDAILY - FEBRUARY 15, 2006 - BY BOB POCKRASS -
DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- Kyle Petty did a favor for Richard Childress Racing
and driver Kevin Harvick in 2004, and he paid $45,000 for it.
Dodge fined Petty $45,000 when the veteran relieved Harvick in the Sharpie 500
at Bristol in August 2004. Harvick complained that he had lost feeling
in his left arm and Petty, a Dodge driver, took over for Harvick in the
RCR Chevrolet.

Petty, whose car was already out of the race, did not have permission from
Dodge to drive the Chevy, and Dodge promptly fined him for breaching their contract.
Dodge didn't announce the fine, but it was revealed in
***depositions released during their recently completed trial involving
Bill Davis Racing.

"Initially it was a shock just because that's just a given in the sport -
if a driver is down, everybody rallies and tries to help him out,"
Petty said Feb. 11. "Kevin was sick; Kevin felt bad, so I drove the car.
"When I got a phone call and a legal letter that said I owed them $45,000,
that was a little bit of a shock.
But at the same time, they were exactly right.
I have a contract to drive for Dodge."

Dodge Motorsports Director of Operations John Fernandez said
Feb. 10 that he believed Petty's violation of their contract was
inadvertent but that the manufacturer must protect the sanctity of its contracts.
"That was definitely a violation of the contract, and I think we took
appropriate action," Fernandez said. "If you know the history of the sport,
10 years ago, that would be acceptable. These days it is not acceptable."

--
Crusader

#2

"Crusader" <cru32 (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:

Apparently nickles & dimes mean more to Dodge
than driver/fan loyalty?

Dodge fined Petty for driving a Chevy
SCENEDAILY - FEBRUARY 15, 2006 - BY BOB POCKRASS -
DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- Kyle Petty did a favor for Richard Childress
Racing
and driver Kevin Harvick in 2004, and he paid $45,000 for it.
Dodge fined Petty $45,000 when the veteran relieved Harvick in the
Sharpie 500
at Bristol in August 2004. Harvick complained that he had lost
feeling
in his left arm and Petty, a Dodge driver, took over for Harvick in
the
RCR Chevrolet.

Petty, whose car was already out of the race, did not have permission
from
Dodge to drive the Chevy, and Dodge promptly fined him for breaching
their contract.
Dodge didn't announce the fine, but it was revealed in
***depositions released during their recently completed trial involving
Bill Davis Racing.

"Initially it was a shock just because that's just a given in the
sport -
if a driver is down, everybody rallies and tries to help him out,"
Petty said Feb. 11. "Kevin was sick; Kevin felt bad, so I drove the
car.
"When I got a phone call and a legal letter that said I owed them
$45,000,
that was a little bit of a shock.
But at the same time, they were exactly right.
I have a contract to drive for Dodge."

Dodge Motorsports Director of Operations John Fernandez said
Feb. 10 that he believed Petty's violation of their contract was
inadvertent but that the manufacturer must protect the sanctity of
its contracts.
"That was definitely a violation of the contract, and I think we took
appropriate action," Fernandez said. "If you know the history of the
sport,
10 years ago, that would be acceptable. These days it is not
acceptable."

So why do they continue to sponsor Stewart, whose entire fleet of open wheel

teams wear MOPAR sponsorship?

Carey in Manvel

#3

<noone (AT) nowhere (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

Stewart hasn't been in open wheel since he was the #4 driver for Ganassi
at Indy.

Then explain who is the driver of #20 on this entry list for the Chili Bowl
run last month.

#4

"armpit" <udontneedit (AT) myemail (DOT) addy> wrote

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noone (AT) nowhere (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Stewart hasn't been in open wheel since he was the #4 driver for Ganassi
at Indy.

Then explain who is the driver of #20 on this entry list for the Chili
Bowl run last month.

Dambit, I forgot the link.

http://www.chilibowl.com/2006cbentries.asp

#5

"Carey Akin" <cmakin (AT) att (DOT) net> wrote

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"Crusader" <cru32 (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message
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Apparently nickles & dimes mean more to Dodge
than driver/fan loyalty?

Dodge fined Petty for driving a Chevy
SCENEDAILY - FEBRUARY 15, 2006 - BY BOB POCKRASS -
DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- Kyle Petty did a favor for Richard Childress
Racing
and driver Kevin Harvick in 2004, and he paid $45,000 for it.
Dodge fined Petty $45,000 when the veteran relieved Harvick in the
Sharpie 500
at Bristol in August 2004. Harvick complained that he had lost
feeling
in his left arm and Petty, a Dodge driver, took over for Harvick in
the
RCR Chevrolet.

Petty, whose car was already out of the race, did not have permission
from
Dodge to drive the Chevy, and Dodge promptly fined him for breaching
their contract.
Dodge didn't announce the fine, but it was revealed in
***depositions released during their recently completed trial involving
Bill Davis Racing.

"Initially it was a shock just because that's just a given in the
sport -
if a driver is down, everybody rallies and tries to help him out,"
Petty said Feb. 11. "Kevin was sick; Kevin felt bad, so I drove the
car.
"When I got a phone call and a legal letter that said I owed them
$45,000,
that was a little bit of a shock.
But at the same time, they were exactly right.
I have a contract to drive for Dodge."

Dodge Motorsports Director of Operations John Fernandez said
Feb. 10 that he believed Petty's violation of their contract was
inadvertent but that the manufacturer must protect the sanctity of
its contracts.
"That was definitely a violation of the contract, and I think we took
appropriate action," Fernandez said. "If you know the history of the
sport,
10 years ago, that would be acceptable. These days it is not
acceptable."

So why do they continue to sponsor Stewart, whose entire fleet of open wheel
teams wear MOPAR sponsorship?

Carey in Manvel

WTH do i know about those itty-bitty open wheel cars?

Maybe Tony won't tell Beast what Mopar is running?
Point was, how chicken-shit can Dodge get by fining Kyle Petty?
Then keeping it quiet for 2 years.
Hello Toyota, Goodbye Dodge.
CRU

#6

"Crusader" <cru32 (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:

Apparently nickles & dimes mean more to Dodge
than driver/fan loyalty?

Yes, See the converse between me and Julia regarding Daimler's corporate
actions of late on down the topic list (Davis Loses to Goliath thread).
Mainly about BDR and Mopar issues with support outside of the
Evernham/Penske/Ganassi mafioso, but I rail on them for their incredibly
heavy handed tactics in and out of racing since becoming D-C.

And reading the words "sanctity" and "contract" in the same paragraph is
simply a hoot. Especially when speaking of NASCAR. A million dollar
contract, in any sport IMO, isn't worth the paper it's written on today.
Minds change, and so do opinions. Given that written contracts are simply
formal recordations of verbal agreements, they're basically worthless if one
of the parties changes their mind down the road. Just ask Jamie McMurray and
Kurt Busch. They had "solid contracts" through 2006, yet aren't at those
teams anymore....some sanctity indeed. Given that the divorce rate is still
hovering around 50%, IMO, that makes marriage one of the most sanctimonious
contracts left in the world, in spite of its 50% failure rate. What should
that tell us about every other contract out there?

Quote:

Dodge fined Petty for driving a Chevy
SCENEDAILY - FEBRUARY 15, 2006 - BY BOB POCKRASS -
DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- Kyle Petty did a favor for Richard Childress
Racing
and driver Kevin Harvick in 2004, and he paid $45,000 for it.
Dodge fined Petty $45,000 when the veteran relieved Harvick in the
Sharpie 500
at Bristol in August 2004. Harvick complained that he had lost
feeling
in his left arm and Petty, a Dodge driver, took over for Harvick in
the
RCR Chevrolet.

Petty, whose car was already out of the race, did not have
permission from
Dodge to drive the Chevy, and Dodge promptly fined him for breaching
their contract.
Dodge didn't announce the fine, but it was revealed in
***depositions released during their recently completed trial involving
Bill Davis Racing.

"Initially it was a shock just because that's just a given in the
sport -
if a driver is down, everybody rallies and tries to help him out,"
Petty said Feb. 11. "Kevin was sick; Kevin felt bad, so I drove the
car.
"When I got a phone call and a legal letter that said I owed them
$45,000,
that was a little bit of a shock.
But at the same time, they were exactly right.
I have a contract to drive for Dodge."

Dodge Motorsports Director of Operations John Fernandez said
Feb. 10 that he believed Petty's violation of their contract was
inadvertent but that the manufacturer must protect the sanctity of
its contracts.
"That was definitely a violation of the contract, and I think we
took
appropriate action," Fernandez said. "If you know the history of the
sport,
10 years ago, that would be acceptable. These days it is not
acceptable."

--
Crusader

#7

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"Carey Akin" <cmakin (AT) att (DOT) net> wrote:

So why do they continue to sponsor Stewart, whose entire fleet of
open wheel teams wear MOPAR sponsorship?

Carey in Manvel

Stewart hasn't been in open wheel since he was the #4 driver for
Ganassi at Indy.

You seem to have missed the fact that Stewart owns a WoO team
(those are open wheel cars). He owns a USAC midget team (those
are open wheel cars). He owns a USAC sprint team (those are
open wheel cars, he seems to run 2 of them). Heck, Stewart
even owns a racetrack (Eldora) where they race open wheel cars.
Tony is seriously into open wheel.

John

#8

Carey Akin wrote:

Quote:

So why do they continue to sponsor Stewart, whose entire fleet of
open wheel teams wear MOPAR sponsorship?

Different series and different contract?

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#9

"Carey Akin" <cmakin (AT) att (DOT) net> wrote

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"Crusader" <cru32 (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message
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Apparently nickles & dimes mean more to Dodge
than driver/fan loyalty?

Dodge fined Petty for driving a Chevy
SCENEDAILY - FEBRUARY 15, 2006 - BY BOB POCKRASS -
DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- Kyle Petty did a favor for Richard Childress
Racing
and driver Kevin Harvick in 2004, and he paid $45,000 for it.
Dodge fined Petty $45,000 when the veteran relieved Harvick in the
Sharpie 500
at Bristol in August 2004. Harvick complained that he had lost
feeling
in his left arm and Petty, a Dodge driver, took over for Harvick in
the
RCR Chevrolet.

Petty, whose car was already out of the race, did not have
permission from
Dodge to drive the Chevy, and Dodge promptly fined him for breaching
their contract.
Dodge didn't announce the fine, but it was revealed in
***depositions released during their recently completed trial involving
Bill Davis Racing.

"Initially it was a shock just because that's just a given in the
sport -
if a driver is down, everybody rallies and tries to help him out,"
Petty said Feb. 11. "Kevin was sick; Kevin felt bad, so I drove the
car.
"When I got a phone call and a legal letter that said I owed them
$45,000,
that was a little bit of a shock.
But at the same time, they were exactly right.
I have a contract to drive for Dodge."

Dodge Motorsports Director of Operations John Fernandez said
Feb. 10 that he believed Petty's violation of their contract was
inadvertent but that the manufacturer must protect the sanctity of
its contracts.
"That was definitely a violation of the contract, and I think we
took
appropriate action," Fernandez said. "If you know the history of the
sport,
10 years ago, that would be acceptable. These days it is not
acceptable."

So why do they continue to sponsor Stewart, whose entire fleet of open
wheel teams wear MOPAR sponsorship?

#1. Do any of you even know that Stewart has the same provision in his
contract? Perhaps he negotiated some exceptions since he knew he was going
to need to drive those other cars.

#2. I was a Petty fan for booko years and still have a soft spot in my
heart for them. But a contract is a contract. The Pettys should have known
the clause was in the contract and followed it or got a waiver for this
race. I agree that it is kind of petty (pardon the pun) to fine Kyle, but
Dodge also has to enforce the contract or it can become totally null and
void.

DEIfan

#10

"Ralph Hutchinson" <a78be3 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

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Apparently nickles & dimes mean more to Dodge
than driver/fan loyalty?

Dodge fined Petty for driving a Chevy
SCENEDAILY - FEBRUARY 15, 2006 - BY BOB POCKRASS -
DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- Kyle Petty did a favor for Richard Childress
Racing
and driver Kevin Harvick in 2004, and he paid $45,000 for it.
Dodge fined Petty $45,000 when the veteran relieved Harvick in the
Sharpie 500
at Bristol in August 2004. Harvick complained that he had lost
feeling
in his left arm and Petty, a Dodge driver, took over for Harvick in
the
RCR Chevrolet.

Petty, whose car was already out of the race, did not have
permission from
Dodge to drive the Chevy, and Dodge promptly fined him for
breaching their contract.
Dodge didn't announce the fine, but it was revealed in
***depositions released during their recently completed trial
involving
Bill Davis Racing.

"Initially it was a shock just because that's just a given in the
sport -
if a driver is down, everybody rallies and tries to help him out,"
Petty said Feb. 11. "Kevin was sick; Kevin felt bad, so I drove the
car.
"When I got a phone call and a legal letter that said I owed them
$45,000,
that was a little bit of a shock.
But at the same time, they were exactly right.
I have a contract to drive for Dodge."

Dodge Motorsports Director of Operations John Fernandez said
Feb. 10 that he believed Petty's violation of their contract was
inadvertent but that the manufacturer must protect the sanctity of
its contracts.
"That was definitely a violation of the contract, and I think we
took
appropriate action," Fernandez said. "If you know the history of
the sport,
10 years ago, that would be acceptable. These days it is not
acceptable."

So why do they continue to sponsor Stewart, whose entire fleet of open
wheel teams wear MOPAR sponsorship?

#1. Do any of you even know that Stewart has the same provision in his
contract? Perhaps he negotiated some exceptions since he knew he was
going to need to drive those other cars.

#2. I was a Petty fan for booko years and still have a soft spot in my
heart for them. But a contract is a contract. The Pettys should have
known the clause was in the contract and followed it or got a waiver for
this race. I agree that it is kind of petty (pardon the pun) to fine
Kyle, but Dodge also has to enforce the contract or it can become totally
null and void.

DEIfan

who do you think covered the fine?