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Evernham admits relationship hurt driver's [Crocker] career
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Re: Evernham admits relationship hurt driver's [Crocker] career -
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Edwards_Fan wrote: On Jul 28, 8:52 am, GO JR. wrote: From the Jayski site: Evernham admits relationship hurt driver's [Crocker] career: Team owner Ray Evernham says the best thing for developmental driver Erin Crocker is to find a new race team. "I don't think it's any secret that because of the personal relationship between Erin and I it hurt her career," Evernham said on Friday at Indianapolis Motor Speedway. "The proper thing to do and something her and I would like to do is move her to another race team. I think the girl has a lot of talent. But if I sit here and say to somebody, 'Look, she's got a lot of talent, you should sponsor her,' my credibility is not good because of the personal relationship," he said. Evernham, who turns 50 in August, began dating the 26-year-old Crocker last season. Well, NO KIDDING!!! Ray screwed Erin in more ways than 1! I happen to like Crocker, and have followed her career since her days in the World Of Outlaws. As much as nobody else thinks so, the woman can drive. She was being pushed too hard to perform. She should have spent at least another year in ARCA before moving to the Truck Series, and even at that, I don't think Ray gave her the equipment to really run good consistantly. Maybe she will get hired by a team that will respect her for her driving skills rather than her gender, but unfortunately, the damage done is in all probability irreversible. Too bad too! I for one would have liked to see her succeed! Casey Atwood - line 1 |
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Her talent is questionable but I also wanted to see her succeed. The problem now is no top level sponsor will come near Erin because Evernham MS mishandled the entire situation. Had Erin shown more talent in CTS and NBS, it would be truly one of the worst bungles in NASCAR history. Well Erin did ok in sprint cars, but those are 30 lap feature races |
an issue when you don't have to run for hours in heat well over 100
degrees. When it comes to strength and endurance tasks, a fit guy has
a biological advantage of a fit female. If she wants to try, and she
is competing with the same rules as everyone else I wish her luck.
Yet rather than try to make it in Nascar, she would be better off
going back to the Outlaws or try Drag Racing. Drag racing has a
number of women running now that are champions and in 5 sec races
endurance is no factor. As far as talent goes, I am not really sure
we will really ever know now just what talent she really has or hasn't
got. That may be true with many, but when you mix the personal in the
situation it complicates it much further.
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Golly gee Ray, do ya really think so? (rolls eyes) He still only half gets it. Crocker's career tanked because (A) she does not have top level talent, |
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and (B) she started screwing her boss |
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and they tried to hide it, be secretive, as if it's nobody's business when it was our business; her a driver, him an owner. |
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Being closed doors about it told everyone they themselves think of the situation as something dirty and wrong. |
whose business it was none of. Dirty and wrong? Why?
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I think Erin wanted to be more open, above board, about it |
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but Ray would not let her |
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and over time they have both paid a very heavy price. |
was a subordinate? What real price have they paid besides having to put up
with the judgemental bullshit of the media, fans, etc.? Perhaps some
squeamish sponsors backed away, but there are plenty out there.
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Ray has lost a lot of respect among his peers, the drivers, and the NASCAR community in general, |
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and believe me Erin's career IS OVER. |
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No team owner will want Erin "as a driver". |
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Also to blame for this mess is the publicist for Evernham Motorsports, whom I will not name to save some embarrassment. |
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This failure on her part should be embarrassing enough but then, along with Ray, I doubt she will ever fully understand. |
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Her talent is questionable |
have top-level talent. Which is it?
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but I also wanted to see her succeed. |
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The problem now is no top level sponsor will come near Erin because Evernham MS mishandled the entire situation. |
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Had Erin shown more talent in CTS and NBS, it would be truly one of the worst bungles in NASCAR history. |
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"Noone" <Noone (AT) Noone (DOT) com> wrote in message news:46ab7bc1$0$4937$4c368faf (AT) roadrunner (DOT) com... Edwards_Fan wrote: On Jul 28, 8:52 am, GO JR. wrote: From the Jayski site: Evernham admits relationship hurt driver's [Crocker] career: Team owner Ray Evernham says the best thing for developmental driver Erin Crocker is to find a new race team. "I don't think it's any secret that because of the personal relationship between Erin and I it hurt her career," Evernham said on Friday at Indianapolis Motor Speedway. "The proper thing to do and something her and I would like to do is move her to another race team. I think the girl has a lot of talent. But if I sit here and say to somebody, 'Look, she's got a lot of talent, you should sponsor her,' my credibility is not good because of the personal relationship," he said. Evernham, who turns 50 in August, began dating the 26-year-old Crocker last season. Well, NO KIDDING!!! Ray screwed Erin in more ways than 1! I happen to like Crocker, and have followed her career since her days in the World Of Outlaws. As much as nobody else thinks so, the woman can drive. She was being pushed too hard to perform. She should have spent at least another year in ARCA before moving to the Truck Series, and even at that, I don't think Ray gave her the equipment to really run good consistantly. Maybe she will get hired by a team that will respect her for her driving skills rather than her gender, but unfortunately, the damage done is in all probability irreversible. Too bad too! I for one would have liked to see her succeed! Casey Atwood - line 1 Ray dated Casey too? |
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Well Erin did ok in sprint cars, but those are 30 lap feature races with heat races even less than that. Endurance just isn't as much of an issue when you don't have to run for hours in heat well over 100 degrees. When it comes to strength and endurance tasks, a fit guy has a biological advantage of a fit female. If she wants to try, and she is competing with the same rules as everyone else I wish her luck. Yet rather than try to make it in Nascar, she would be better off going back to the Outlaws or try Drag Racing. Drag racing has a number of women running now that are champions and in 5 sec races endurance is no factor. As far as talent goes, I am not really sure we will really ever know now just what talent she really has or hasn't got. That may be true with many, but when you mix the personal in the situation it complicates it much further. |
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that because of the personal relationship between Erin and I it hurt |
preposition! It is SO annoying. I know, picky, picky, picky. It
just grates, for some reason. It's my only complaint about Bestwick.)
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that because of the personal relationship between Erin and I it hurt (I just want to smack anyone who uses "I" as the object of a preposition! It is SO annoying. I know, picky, picky, picky. It just grates, for some reason. It's my only complaint about Bestwick.) N. I'd just be happy if I could break my kid of saying; "I don't gots no....." |
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"Nancy2" <nancy-doo... (AT) uiowa (DOT) edu> wrote in message news:1185802119.304421.189280 (AT) j4g2000prf (DOT) googlegroups.com... that because of the personal relationship between Erin and I it hurt (I just want to smack anyone who uses "I" as the object of a preposition! It is SO annoying. I know, picky, picky, picky. It just grates, for some reason. It's my only complaint about Bestwick.) N. I'd just be happy if I could break my kid of saying; "I don't gots no....." |
girlfriend who speaks correctly. My youngest was no great shakes at
grammar, but now I hear him correcting his wife now and then (probably
not the best strategy). ;-)
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