I did a bit of research and there were only 2 cautions last night. The
first caution was for debris and no further explanation was given or
shown. The final caution was another "debris" issue. The caution
lasted 7 laps with one "wave off". I dont believe there was any
explanation as to why it took so long to remove debris other than it
was an attempt to set up a wild finish or as some might say the whole
thing was staged?

"Texan in Belgium" <joedopebucket (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote


nah. you're just paranoid, NA$CAR would never do that.

Texan in Belgium <joedopebucket (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in news:c37cdfcf-eb85-
466a-8f0d-64d848a54c97 (AT) b14g2000...oglegroups.com:

There were two wave offs. The first was because 2 cars (Steven
Wallace and one other, the #15 I think) were not in their right
places in the double file. There was no explanation for the
second wave off.

John

John McCoy wrote:

still, 7 laps for "debris" is ridiculous

the "debris" caution with 15 to go last week is what set up that wild
finish, then they went back green and another caution came out forcing
even less laps to get in position for the finish

why don't they just race until 10-15 laps to go and let everyone know
it'll be a "double file shootout" for the win, oh wait, that's what they
do now, lol

(it's just like resetting the points after 26 races and letting the
leaders bunch up and race for it, in other words, manufactured)

On Jul 11, 9:37*am, Texan in Belgium <joedopebuc... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
TNT has not been showing any "debris," but Fox shows debris every time
there's a debris caution. I don't know what ABC/ESPN will do.

N.

Victory Lane on Speed showed the debris from the first debris caution.
Looked like a wedge rubber.

Nancy2 <nancy-dooley (AT) uiowa (DOT) edu> wrote in news:d1a3091c-dce5-45ba-b6a4-
3ba8f820d110 (AT) r34g2000vba (DOT) googlegroups.com:

I suspect TNT was told not to. Apparently NASCAR got badly bent
out of shape when Kyle was ragging on the fireman at Pocono last
year, and thus TNT is on their "strictly control" list.

John

brushfire <brush.fire (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote in
news:kven5598rp7ijb6s850u6240k1ip12ekrn (AT) 4ax (DOT) com:

Spring rubber, you mean. A totally harmless thing (it's rubber,
after all), but if NASCAR wants a caution to "improve the show"...

John

John McCoy wrote:
My understanding is that these are hard rubber. So I guess its OK if
they just leave these on the track? Maybe somebody hits it and pops it
up? Or punts it? Into the stands how fast? Through the windshield of
a car?

I'm not trying to support NASCAR, but this does not seem like a "totally
harmless thing" given what it could do.

Invisibrarian <no.spam (AT) mail (DOT) com> wrote in news:0SS6m.21572$iz2.1101
@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com:

Hard like tire rubber, not like bakelite. Potentially it could get
flung around, but then potentially a cut tire coming apart could
fling chunks of rubber around too. Either way, anything that size
that gets over the fence isn't going to be moving too fast by the
time it gets back down.

John