Weds evening Just watched the race replay ... and heard BP say - early in the
coverage .........." This could be the race
where Kenny Wallace gets a big win ...." I will say no more ..good nite..

"Morehits4u" <morehits4u (AT) aol (DOT) comnojunk> wrote

: Weds evening Just watched the race replay ... and heard BP say - early in
the
: coverage .........." This could be the race
: where Kenny Wallace gets a big win ...." I will say no more ..good
nite..

this was one of those comments that when right past me...i did hear it but
couldn't believe just what i heard...

morehits4u (AT) aol (DOT) comnojunk (Morehits4u) wrote in message news:<20031001194748.11972.00000136 (AT) mb-m03 (DOT) aol.com>...
He must have forgot that Kenny Wallace is in a Bill Davis car.

"Kit" <adrook (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

: morehits4u (AT) aol (DOT) comnojunk (Morehits4u) wrote in message
news:<20031001194748.11972.00000136 (AT) mb-m03 (DOT) aol.com>...
: > Weds evening Just watched the race replay ... and heard BP say - early
in the
: > coverage .........." This could be the race
: > where Kenny Wallace gets a big win ...." I will say no more ..good
nite..
:
: He must have forgot that Kenny Wallace is in a Bill Davis car.

OK... if JG had stayed in a Bill Davis car do you think he would have been
successful? not AS successful as he's been, but win a championship or
two?...

"Jim Horne" wrote ...
Nope. A great driver can't overcome *everything*. Let's start with the
assumption that JG couldn't be competitive with a street legal Monte Carlo
and work up. At what point in the progression WOULD he be competitive? At
what point would he win a race or two, at what point (progressing through
the different teams) could he equal his career?

THEN factor in what having a JG as a driver would do to elevate the team?
Would BD have been able to leverage a JG in sponsorship $ and use his talent
to build an entire organization around him like RH has? And would that $
have allowed JG to match the success he'd achieved with HMS?

*I think* few owners could have leveraged a JG to the extent that Hendrick
has. JG would have won a few races at BD but not gotten to the level of
winning a championship. It takes a super talented driver and a visionary
owner to make the total greater than the sum of the parts.

"Jim Horne" <horneja (AT) ufl (DOT) edu> wrote

He would have been lucky to crack the top ten in points.....ever.

That's exactly right...one must remember that Hendrick put everything he had
behind JG for a long time. In my opinion, not only did he put everything
behind JG, but in doing so he neglected the rest of his organization. Look
at Terry Labonte - don't you think he could / could have done a lot more
with enough support from Hendrick and his organization? He just won a
race - you know he still has it in him. But do you hear much about him?
No, because JG has always had all the attention of HMS.


"WildWeasel" <wweasel_24 (AT) HooYah (DOT) com> wrote

"BS from WNY" <stollfamily (AT) bluefrog (DOT) biz> wrote

How long is "a long time"?

-Russ.

"BS from WNY" <stollfamily (AT) bluefrog (DOT) biz> wrote

: That's exactly right...one must remember that Hendrick put everything he
had
: behind JG for a long time. In my opinion, not only did he put everything
: behind JG, but in doing so he neglected the rest of his organization.
Look
: at Terry Labonte - don't you think he could / could have done a lot more
: with enough support from Hendrick and his organization? He just won a
: race - you know he still has it in him. But do you hear much about him?
: No, because JG has always had all the attention of HMS.
:
:
: "WildWeasel" <wweasel_24 (AT) HooYah (DOT) com> wrote in message
: news:zuefb.8785$yp6.268061 (AT) nnrp1 (DOT) ptd.net...
: >
: > "Jim Horne" wrote ...
: > > "Kit" wrote ...
: > > :
: > > : He must have forgot that Kenny Wallace is in a Bill Davis car.
: > >
: > > OK... if JG had stayed in a Bill Davis car do you think he would have
: > been
: > > successful? not AS successful as he's been, but win a championship or
: > > two?...
: > >
: >
: > Nope. A great driver can't overcome *everything*. Let's start with the
: > assumption that JG couldn't be competitive with a street legal Monte
Carlo
: > and work up. At what point in the progression WOULD he be competitive?
: At
: > what point would he win a race or two, at what point (progressing
through
: > the different teams) could he equal his career?
: >
: > THEN factor in what having a JG as a driver would do to elevate the
team?
: > Would BD have been able to leverage a JG in sponsorship $ and use his
: talent
: > to build an entire organization around him like RH has? And would that
$
: > have allowed JG to match the success he'd achieved with HMS?
: >
: > *I think* few owners could have leveraged a JG to the extent that
Hendrick
: > has. JG would have won a few races at BD but not gotten to the level of
: > winning a championship. It takes a super talented driver and a
visionary
: > owner to make the total greater than the sum of the parts.
: >
: >
:
so is he the greatest driver ever? or just had one of the best funded
efforts over past 10 years?

"Jim Horne" <horneja (AT) ufl (DOT) edu> wrote


years. This also included a very good crew chief and tightly run operation
all around.