Grubb replies to being suspended

#31

"Alan Jones" <alan (AT) alanjones (DOT) us> wrote

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I thought there might have been another side of the story. I hope
Kevin is clean. He seems like a good kid.

On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:39:16 -0400, RES2CUE28
res2cue (AT) mountaincable (DOT) net> wrote:

Hmmmm, kind of gives you something to think about. If this is true, he
should be able to get tested and that's it...

Oh bull crap! These are the kinds of tales told by substance abusers world

wide. Be they alkys or crack heads it's always some wild tale. "I don't
remember being at the track" "I went to the hospital the next day and was
diagnosed with a concussion." Pfffft!!! Abusers are experts at coming
across as "good kids".

#32

"Alan Jones" <alan (AT) alanjones (DOT) us> wrote

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That's a very good question. Was Grubb checked out at the race.
If not, why not, and, if so, why was the concussion not diagnosed.

On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 23:53:25 GMT, "SimDriver"
NR2003.is.the (AT) best (DOT) sim.net> wrote:

don't the emt's take all drivers involved in wrecks to the infield care
center and check them out for possible head injuries before releasing
them?

Apparently they also wanted to test him for drugs but he played the

concussion game and beat cheeks out of there...then supposedly went and got
diagnosed with the alleged concussion the next day.

#33

"Sandy, THT" <sandrabrown_509 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

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Good question, but concussions aren't always immediately obvious after
a wreck. I have had a couple after some horseback riding wrecks and
both myself and those around me didn't realize I had one until later
on. <snip

But none of the posters with concussion 'spreience appear to have a known
past history of drug abuse. That being said N$ has every right to find him
guilty based on the preponderance of the evidence. It's just one of the
things that happen when people make bad choices. The come back to haunt
them later on justly or not it's the way it is. KG needs to look elsewhere
for his fame and glory cause being a N$ star has passed him by.

#34

"RES2CUE28" <res2cue (AT) mountaincable (DOT) net> wrote

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from the article I read... (Jayski?) it said he did go to the infield care
centre and was released.

Yeah...apparently released to take a drug test which he ignored.

#35

"RobZip" <no time (AT) me (DOT) net> wrote

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"Alan Jones" <alan (AT) alanjones (DOT) us> wrote in message
news:to3rg2l08v0389m9681dndqs2v7fjbmqb2 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
Grubb told
the Times-Dispatch he was "foggy'' after his accident last week
and that he doesn't "remember most of being at the track.''

Asked if Grubb's comments might change NASCAR's stance,
spokesperson Kerry Tharp said: "NASCAR made multiple requests
for him to submit to a test and we're comfortable on our position
with that.''

Makes no difference...... The girls with me at the water park when I had a
concussion last year made repeated requests to leave the place too. I
declined or was non-committal about it. I made repeated requests of them
for a locker key that was actually in my possession, not theirs. 'Have no
recall of any of it.
Despite appearances that you are interacting normally with a person
suffering concussion , they are off in the enchanted kingdom somewhere and
nothing you say to them is getting through. NASCAR should certainly have
enough access to experts and experience with similar injuries to know
this.
What it boils down to is taking advantage of a person while in a state of
diminished mental capacity. If NASCAR can be comfortable with their
position - taken under these circumstances - it spotlights the moral and
ethical shortcomings of those making the decision.

Don't matter...and I typically despise most of N$'s decisions...his

situation was different than yours at the water park. He was in the same
situation as a convict on parole. They get sent back to the joint all the
time on grounds that seem to an outsider to be flimsy and contrived but the
bottom line is that they are under a different set of rules from the rest of
society. KG was "on parole" for his substance abuse. Personally I don't
think N$ owed him a second chance in the first place.

#36

"Alan Jones" <alan (AT) alanjones (DOT) us> wrote

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NASCAR should have been fair about it and tested Grubb on
Monday. Do they think he's trying to beat the results? What
serious drug would be out of a person's system after just
two or three days. Someone said ephedra is all they can think
of. Would NASCAR be this harsh on someone for taking ephedra?

Ummm if they were on probation for a prior abuse offense....yes they
absolutely would have. And perhaps whatever he thought he was going to beat
by an extra day or two wasn't fresh in his system. Maybe he wasn't sure he
would pass because he knew he had not been as clean as he want's everyone to
think.

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