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Inside Motorsports: How could NASCAR boost credibility? By DAVID POOLE, dpoole (AT) charlotteobserver (DOT) com Five things NASCAR could do to improve its credibility with fans: 1. POST RULES ONLINE: Publish the Nextel Cup, Busch and Truck series rule books online and allow fans to order copies. The rules for other major sports are readily available. NASCAR should be no different. |
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2. PAINT LINES ON TRACKS: The lines should show where the electronic scoring loops are. That way, fans could look at replays and judge where cars are when a caution comes out, helping them understand scoring decisions. |
though. Little small "hash marks" along the outside wall would suffice.
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3. TELEMETRY ON TV: Allow television to show telemetry on cars on pit road. So long as NASCAR is fairly and properly using electronic timing to call pit-road speeding penalties, this would provide exoneration the skeptics couldn't deny. |
the same source slight differences or glitches can indicate NASCAR is NOT
"fairly and properly using electronic timing" when they actually are. If the
datastream was the SAME datastream source for both TV and NASCAR officials
it would be good. IOW let TV access NASCARs datastream.
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4. REALIGN CARS: Wave around cars trapped on the end of the lead lap because of pit stop timing to let them line up behind the field, not between the pace car and the leader. A car is either a lap down or isn't. Other circuits have eliminated this limbo. NASCAR should, too. |
a lap down pass the pace car anytime the leader pits after the yellow comes
out. This is not proper and represents an artificial scenario to placate
fans that can't figure it out. The funny thing is that the "Lucky Dog" is
just such a STOOPID idea as well. IF you are a lap down then you STAY a lap
down. PERIOD.
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5. DEVELOP A THICK SKIN Sometimes, even the best umpires and referees miss calls. NASCAR is too scared it's going to get caught being wrong on enforcing a rule. It absolutely happens, and pretending it doesn't only adds to fans' suspicions. |
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[I add: Never use Green / Yellow starts for races! In fact, I would like to have yellow laps NOT count! Only count Green Flag laps!] |
Let's look at the Green/Yellow start.
Why it is done?
Why it is Stupid?
What could be done instead?
Why it is done?
To help dry the track and to get some race laps in where time curfew and/or
weather window issues are tight.
Why it is Stupid?
Because a race is supposed to be a race. Not a parade. Cautions WILL happen
during a race but to start a race under caution is not a race at all.
What could be done instead?
This would help dry the track but not help the other.
Ask the teams to go out at Pace Car Speed behind the pace cars and run 15-20
pace laps. THEN when the track is OK or very nearly OK allow ALL teams a 5
minute pit stop where they can do ANY thing to the car that would be
allowed. Top off fuel and Change tires primarily. If it was an impound race
they would be more restricted than a non-impound race but the same process
would apply.
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No one want's to see stock bodied cars. They want cars that look like they belong on a race track....with logos that look like the ones on their cars. I also disagree with your disagreement on cautions. I believe that the pits should be effectively closed when the yellow is out forcing green flag pit stops and/or penalties of going a lap down for entering the pits under caution. this would make the pit work even more meaningful and pit road would be less congested. |
People come to see racing, not tire changing.
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Inside Motorsports: How could NASCAR boost credibility? By DAVID POOLE, dpo... (AT) charlotteobserver (DOT) com Five things NASCAR could do to improve its credibility with fans: 1. POST RULES ONLINE: Publish the Nextel Cup, Busch and Truck series rule books online and allow fans to order copies. The rules for other major sports are readily available. NASCAR should be no different. |
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2. PAINT LINES ON TRACKS: The lines should show where the electronic scoring loops are. That way, fans could look at replays and judge where cars are when a caution comes out, helping them understand scoring decisions. |
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3. TELEMETRY ON TV: Allow television to show telemetry on cars on pit road. So long as NASCAR is fairly and properly using electronic timing to call pit-road speeding penalties, this would provide exoneration the skeptics couldn't deny. |
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4. REALIGN CARS: Wave around cars trapped on the end of the lead lap because of pit stop timing to let them line up behind the field, not between the pace car and the leader. A car is either a lap down or isn't. Other circuits have eliminated this limbo. NASCAR should, too. |
make up 3/4 of the track or more just to mass the next car in line?
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5. DEVELOP A THICK SKIN Sometimes, even the best umpires and referees miss calls. NASCAR is too scared it's going to get caught being wrong on enforcing a rule. It absolutely happens, and pretending it doesn't only adds to fans' suspicions. |
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[I add: Never use Green / Yellow starts for races! In fact, I would like to have yellow laps NOT count! Only count Green Flag laps!] |
Agreed.
6. Run STOCK BODIED cars straight off the assembly line. Go back to
the 5 and 5 rule. If a maunfacturer designs a dog, so be it.
7. Eliminate the top 35. Why should a faster driver go home just
because of his points position? Fastest 43 make the field.
8. Eliminate the 5 points for leading ONE lap.
9. More road courses. Any retard can drive around in a circle. Want
proof? Look no further than the number of teams that have to bring in
wringers for the road races.
10. Eliminate the chase. 100 points for a win, 42 for 2nd, and so on
down to 43rd.
11. If your car goes to the garage, put it on the truck. That will
keep the moving chicanes off the track.
12. Do away with restrictor plates. These guys are supposed to be "the
best in the business", so they should know what a brake pedal is.
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On Sat, 5 May 2007 23:39:07 -0400, Vandar wrote (in article <v5c%h.7962$B25.4953 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>): They want cars that look like they belong on a race track....with logos that look like the ones on their cars. I also disagree with your disagreement on cautions. I believe that the pits should be effectively closed when the yellow is out forcing green flag pit stops and/or penalties of going a lap down for entering the pits under caution. this would make the pit work even more meaningful and pit road would be less congested. Furthermore, NASCAR's use of full course cautions on road courses is totally bogus. Local cautions in N$ events are rare even though they are a normal occurrence in other RR series. NASCAR's use of road courses is totally bogus. I love the road-courses. I wish we had more of them. However he's right: NASCAR must learn what a "local caution" is. It's just sooooo difficult to sell car insurance under a local caution.  |
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Greg Bailey wrote: Bear Bryant always told his players to act, when they scored a touchdown, like they'd been to the end zone before, instead of jumping around and whooping and hollering and celebrating. I always admired the way Barry Sanders handled it - just hand the ref the ball and head to the bench. |
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On May 6, 1:17 am, Vandar <vanda... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: Greg Bailey wrote: Bear Bryant always told his players to act, when they scored a touchdown, like they'd been to the end zone before, instead of jumping around and whooping and hollering and celebrating. I always admired the way Barry Sanders handled it - just hand the ref the ball and head to the bench. Burn outs do nothing but attempt to call attention to a driver that without a solid engine man at the shop, would have engine smoke instead of tire smoke. Like football racing is a team sport. Any post race celebration that does not involve the entire team with the exception of the traditional victory lap, is one that is best done without. |
up paralized, or if Tony Stewart climbs the fence, falls off, and ends up
paralized.
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"Vandar" <vandar69 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:Mpe%h.7968$B25.3926 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny... Greg Bailey wrote: Bear Bryant always told his players to act, when they scored a touchdown, like they'd been to the end zone before, instead of jumping around and whooping and hollering and celebrating. I always admired the way Barry Sanders handled it - just hand the ref the ball and head to the bench. Barry was a class act. |
certainly the most entertaining to watch.
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"SinghaLvr" <singhalvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote in message news:0001HW.C26367A90054539CF0203648 (AT) nntp (DOT) charter.net... On Sat, 5 May 2007 23:39:07 -0400, Vandar wrote (in article <v5c%h.7962$B25.4953 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>): They want cars that look like they belong on a race track....with logos that look like the ones on their cars. I also disagree with your disagreement on cautions. I believe that the pits should be effectively closed when the yellow is out forcing green flag pit stops and/or penalties of going a lap down for entering the pits under caution. this would make the pit work even more meaningful and pit road would be less congested. Furthermore, NASCAR's use of full course cautions on road courses is totally bogus. Local cautions in N$ events are rare even though they are a normal occurrence in other RR series. NASCAR's use of road courses is totally bogus. I love the road-courses. I wish we had more of them. However he's right: NASCAR must learn what a "local caution" is. It's just sooooo difficult to sell car insurance under a local caution. |
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Frank from Deeetroit wrote: "Vandar" <vandar69 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:Mpe%h.7968$B25.3926 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny... Greg Bailey wrote: Bear Bryant always told his players to act, when they scored a touchdown, like they'd been to the end zone before, instead of jumping around and whooping and hollering and celebrating. I always admired the way Barry Sanders handled it - just hand the ref the ball and head to the bench. Barry was a class act. And probably the best running back in the history of the game. He was certainly the most entertaining to watch. |
No, Jim Brown was the BEST ever. Gayle Sayers may well have
been second, Sanders probably 4rth, with Sweetness 3rd! Actually the
2, 3, and 4th could be in any order, but Jim Brown was better than
any. Most people are not old enough to see him when he played, so
it's hard for them to know, but ask anyone old enough!
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