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Default Re: If KyB is so great... - 09-23-2009 , 11:39 AM






On Sep 23, 10:12 am, Nancy2 <nancy-doo... (AT) uiowa (DOT) edu> wrote:
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Wow, no mercy. I read that it was due to a broken shock.

N.
Joe Gibbs Racing released the following statement:

"The situation was caused when the left-front spring
became dislodged. This resulted in the left-front
corner of the car to be lower and resulted in a
change to the car's handling which had to be
compensated for during the race. Consequently,
the car measured low during post-race inspection,
" the statement read. "We accept NASCAR's ruling
on the issue."

Left-front low, how convenient. /s
Left side lower than the right...let me see,
we are making left turns on a flat track...

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Default Re: If KyB is so great... - 09-23-2009 , 12:14 PM






"Rick" <pearl (AT) cray (DOT) com> wrote

On Sep 22, 10:51 pm, "armpit" <armarmpit... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
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"Rick" <pe... (AT) cray (DOT) com> wrote in message

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If KyB is so great, then why cheat? Maybe he needs to.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=txnascarbuschpenalized&prov=...

Blah blah blah. Please come back when you have something substantial to
discuss...
Nothing to discuss, just relaying the facts. The 18 team had an
illegal car.
They cheated! I guess KyB is starving for attention because he's not
in
the chase. Have some M&Ms, they'll take the sad face away.

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So you're saying Kyle lowered the car himself?

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Default Re: If KyB is so great... - 09-23-2009 , 12:17 PM



Nancy2 <nancy-dooley (AT) uiowa (DOT) edu> wrote in news:da85954c-e3f3-40fa-bdbc-
01672a2fea7a (AT) o13g2000vbl (DOT) googlegroups.com:

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The bottom line is that he failed post-race inspection,
not pre-race, so, he raced an illegal car and scored
a top-5. Put an asterik next to that one.


Wow, no mercy. I read that it was due to a broken shock.
The interesting and "no mercy" aspect here is that Busch got
25 points and $25,000, for an error which was not intentional
and probably had no beneficial effects. Carl Long got 200
points, $200,000 fine, and a 12 week suspension for an error
which was clearly not intentional, and clearly had no beneficial
effects.

Why the difference?

It certainly appears that NASCAR's penalties have no relevance
to the infraction, and are entirely determined by who the team
owner is, and how big and important their sponsors are.

John

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Default Re: If KyB is so great... - 09-23-2009 , 12:20 PM



"Rick" <pearl (AT) cray (DOT) com> wrote

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On Sep 23, 10:12 am, Nancy2 <nancy-doo... (AT) uiowa (DOT) edu> wrote:

Wow, no mercy. I read that it was due to a broken shock.

N.

Joe Gibbs Racing released the following statement:

"The situation was caused when the left-front spring
became dislodged. This resulted in the left-front
corner of the car to be lower and resulted in a
change to the car's handling which had to be
compensated for during the race. Consequently,
the car measured low during post-race inspection,
" the statement read. "We accept NASCAR's ruling
on the issue."

Left-front low, how convenient. /s
Left side lower than the right...let me see,
we are making left turns on a flat track...
The main point that seems to escape you is intent. I very much doubt that
the LF corner being too low was deliberate. Anyone can easily surmise that
the infraction was unintentional.

The term "Cheating" defines a deliberate circumvention of the rules. That is
clearly not the case in this scenario.

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Default Re: If KyB is so great... - 09-23-2009 , 03:51 PM



On Sep 23, 11:17*am, John McCoy <igop... (AT) ix (DOT) netcom.com> wrote:
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Nancy2 <nancy-doo... (AT) uiowa (DOT) edu> wrote in news:da85954c-e3f3-40fa-bdbc-
01672a2fe... (AT) o13g2000vbl (DOT) googlegroups.com:



The bottom line is that he failed post-race inspection,
not pre-race, so, he raced an illegal car and scored
a top-5. Put an asterik next to that one.

Wow, no mercy. *I read that it was due to a broken shock.

The interesting and "no mercy" aspect here is that Busch got
25 points and $25,000, for an error which was not intentional
and probably had no beneficial effects. *Carl Long got 200
points, $200,000 fine, and a 12 week suspension for an error
which was clearly not intentional, and clearly had no beneficial
effects.

Why the difference?

It certainly appears that NASCAR's penalties have no relevance
to the infraction, and are entirely determined by who the team
owner is, and how big and important their sponsors are.

John
Isn't that the way it's always been? Not that it makes it right....

N.

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Default Re: If KyB is so great... - 09-23-2009 , 05:55 PM



"armpit" <armarmpitpit (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote
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Not sure what your point is here, if you actually have one.



LOL, same old armpit...
Hey pit,
I ain't been here in a while....
How's your face doin'?
And did they end up throwing the "illegal" in jail?

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Default Re: If KyB is so great... - 09-23-2009 , 08:25 PM



"Rick" <pearl (AT) cray (DOT) com> wrote

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Why did Nascar fine the #18 if it was "clearly" unintentional?
if stupid were painful, you'd act like this less often....

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Default Re: If KyB is so great... - 09-23-2009 , 10:35 PM



On Sep 23, 7:25*pm, "Joey Tribiani" <J... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
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"Rick" <pe... (AT) cray (DOT) com> wrote in message

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Why did Nascar fine the #18 if it was "clearly" unintentional?

if stupid were painful, you'd act like this less often....
If you knew what a rhetorical question is, you wouldn't
need to plagiarize cute little one-liners. Are you going
to defend the #18 team too, or just prattle on?

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Default Re: If KyB is so great... - 09-24-2009 , 12:12 AM



"Rick" <pearl (AT) cray (DOT) com> wrote

On Sep 23, 7:25 pm, "Joey Tribiani" <J... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
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"Rick" <pe... (AT) cray (DOT) com> wrote in message

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Why did Nascar fine the #18 if it was "clearly" unintentional?

if stupid were painful, you'd act like this less often....

If you knew what a rhetorical question is, you wouldn't
need to plagiarize cute little one-liners. Are you going
to defend the #18 team too, or just prattle on?
I do know what a rhetorical question is, hence the reason I provided no
answer to it... It would make me just as ridiculous as the person that
managed to pull their finger out of their nose long enough to post it.... do
you really have anything to say, or are you trying to get the lint out of
your belly button so you can see clearly?

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Default Re: If KyB is so great... - 09-24-2009 , 05:22 AM



"Mike/Speeed" <SpeedracerREMOVE24 (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote

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"armpit" <armarmpitpit (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote


Not sure what your point is here, if you actually have one.




LOL, same old armpit...
Hey pit, I ain't been here in a while....
How's your face doin'?
And did they end up throwing the "illegal" in jail?


He got some measly little fine, some community service and 1 year of
probation. He didn't show up for the restitution hearing in March, so the
judge issued a bench warrant, and the prosecutor told us they would notify
us when they picked him up. That's the last we heard of it. 8^(

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