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Default Re: Jeff Burton is a Class Act - 04-15-2007 , 10:18 PM







"Mike Marlow" <mmarlow (AT) alltel (DOT) net> wrote

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Why take a chance on ruining a winning car?

If it were as big a deal, as people make it out to be...
there would be 'orders'.... from the owners.


DE warned Jr. about damaging a motor.


Big deal. How many blown motors have you seen from a burnout? How many
Crew Chiefs or owners have you seen ban their drivers from doing burnouts
in
order to protect a motor?

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Dale Earnhardt told his son, after winning a Busch race that if he damaged
the motor doing a celebration burnout, he'd have to pay for the motor.

Didn't you understand my post?


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Default Re: Jeff Burton is a Class Act - 04-16-2007 , 12:03 AM






On Apr 15, 5:44 pm, RES2CUE28 <res2... (AT) mountaincable (DOT) net> wrote:
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Billy Ryman wrote:
Burton explained several years ago that he doesn't believe in "burn outs".
He went on to say that the people in the engine and fab shops work too damn
hard for him to abuse the equipment like that.

He is a class act.

why? they are going to tear that engine apart and completely rebuild it
from scratch anyways... It's not like he is saving them any work.

They are going to rebuild it but if the part was damaged and maybe
about to fail, the team would have no way of knowing of whether or not
it was about to fail on track and cost them a race later, or if it was
done during the abuse of the post race burn outs. If you want burn
outs, go to the drag races. They never have had a place in Nascar.
Old schoolers don't do burn outs. Jeff Burton is old school.



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Default Re: Jeff Burton is a Class Act - 04-16-2007 , 12:21 AM




"Mark" <mblackwell1958 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

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On Apr 15, 5:44 pm, RES2CUE28 <res2... (AT) mountaincable (DOT) net> wrote:
Billy Ryman wrote:
Burton explained several years ago that he doesn't believe in "burn
outs".
He went on to say that the people in the engine and fab shops work too
damn
hard for him to abuse the equipment like that.

He is a class act.

why? they are going to tear that engine apart and completely rebuild it
from scratch anyways... It's not like he is saving them any work.


They are going to rebuild it but if the part was damaged and maybe
about to fail, the team would have no way of knowing of whether or not
it was about to fail on track and cost them a race later, or if it was
done during the abuse of the post race burn outs. If you want burn
outs, go to the drag races. They never have had a place in Nascar.
Old schoolers don't do burn outs. Jeff Burton is old school.

I agree 100%
Couldn't have said it any better myself.
Track time is also valuable R+D time.




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Default Re: Jeff Burton is a Class Act - 04-16-2007 , 07:26 AM



In article <1176696209.097061.154210 (AT) n59g2000hsh (DOT) googlegroups.com>, "Mark" <mblackwell1958 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

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Old schoolers don't do burn outs.
Yeah, maybe so.
But...
New schoolers are what's racin'.
And new schoolers are what's spendin'.
Old farts like us die off, and take our thoughts with us.
Life, and sport, is nothing but a cycle.
Few things remain unchanged.
The only thing that remains the same,
is the opinion of older people that
'things ain't what they used to be'..

My grandfather said it,
my dad said it,
and I tell it to my boys...

that's life.
and death.


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Default Re: Jeff Burton is a Class Act - 04-16-2007 , 08:39 AM



On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 18:06:47 -0400, "MWB" <bickmar (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

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No burn out.



Mark

Yep, and I turned the TV off since I knew he wouldn't do one.

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Default Re: Jeff Burton is a Class Act - 04-16-2007 , 08:41 AM



On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:18:51 -0400, "MWB" <bickmar (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:


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Dale Earnhardt told his son, after winning a Busch race that if he damaged
the motor doing a celebration burnout, he'd have to pay for the motor.
I'd be willing to bet, Harvick, Newman, Stewart, Gordon, Johnson and
probably Junior would all be willing to pay for a motor after a
burnout.


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Didn't you understand my post?


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Default Re: Jeff Burton is a Class Act - 04-16-2007 , 08:43 AM



On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 19:32:07 -0400, "Ed" <emccandless (AT) fuse (DOT) net> wrote:

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Billy Ryman wrote:
Burton explained several years ago that he doesn't believe in "burn
outs". He went on to say that the people in the engine and fab shops work
too damn hard for him to abuse the equipment like that.

He is a class act.

why? they are going to tear that engine apart and completely rebuild it
from scratch anyways... It's not like he is saving them any work.

That may be true, but the "burn out" can't serve any useful purpose, and may
affect any part of that winning car they want to salvage. Besides it's
childish and shows a very immature attitude to want to trash what brought
you there.
Neither does a polish victory lap but Burton did that yesterday.

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Default Re: Jeff Burton is a Class Act - 04-16-2007 , 08:45 AM



On 15 Apr 2007 21:03:29 -0700, "Mark" <mblackwell1958 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>
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On Apr 15, 5:44 pm, RES2CUE28 <res2... (AT) mountaincable (DOT) net> wrote:
Billy Ryman wrote:
Burton explained several years ago that he doesn't believe in "burn outs".
He went on to say that the people in the engine and fab shops work too damn
hard for him to abuse the equipment like that.

He is a class act.

why? they are going to tear that engine apart and completely rebuild it
from scratch anyways... It's not like he is saving them any work.


They are going to rebuild it but if the part was damaged and maybe
about to fail, the team would have no way of knowing of whether or not
it was about to fail on track and cost them a race later, or if it was
done during the abuse of the post race burn outs. If you want burn
outs, go to the drag races. They never have had a place in Nascar.
Old schoolers don't do burn outs. Jeff Burton is old school.
Johnson, Stewart, Kenseth, Busch all did burnouts as they won races
the years they won the cup so I guess that doesn't matter too much.

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Default Re: Jeff Burton is a Class Act - 04-16-2007 , 11:08 AM



On Apr 15, 6:58 pm, "Mike Marlow" <mmar... (AT) alltel (DOT) net> wrote:
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Billy Ryman wrote:
Burton explained several years ago that he doesn't believe in "burn
outs". He went on to say that the people in the engine and fab shops
work
too damn hard for him to abuse the equipment like that.

He is a class act.

why? they are going to tear that engine apart and completely rebuild it
from scratch anyways... It's not like he is saving them any work.

That may be true, but the "burn out" can't serve any useful purpose, and
may
affect any part of that winning car they want to salvage. Besides it's
childish and shows a very immature attitude to want to trash what brought
you there.

Throwing beer, soda, champagne, etc. all over each other in Victory Lane
serves no useful purpose either. They're all just ways of celebrating a
victory. Not everything has to serve a useful purpose. Sure - there is a
small risk of blowing a tire and damaging some sheet metal, but these teams
don't seem to care too much about that, so why should the fans get so up in
arms about it? Do you really think they "want to trash" anything? Of
course not.

Some folks like burnouts, and some don't. Isn't it possible to simply not
like them, without coming up with reasons why it is such a bad thing? After
all, just what is so mature about the whole idea of racing cars?

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Who the hell gave you permission to insert some logic into one of
these "discussions??" LOL.

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Default Re: Jeff Burton is a Class Act - 04-16-2007 , 01:18 PM




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In article <1176679763.098950.171540 (AT) e65g2000hsc (DOT) googlegroups.com>,
"Ron"
BigELilE05 (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote:


Why take a chance on ruining a winning car?

If it were as big a deal, as people make it out to be...
there would be 'orders'.... from the owners.


DE warned Jr. about damaging a motor.


Big deal. How many blown motors have you seen from a burnout? How many
Crew Chiefs or owners have you seen ban their drivers from doing
burnouts
in
order to protect a motor?

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE (AT) alltel (DOT) net




Dale Earnhardt told his son, after winning a Busch race that if he damaged
the motor doing a celebration burnout, he'd have to pay for the motor.

Didn't you understand my post?


Mark

Yes Mark, I did understand it. My point was just that Senior was not
representative of most owners in that issue. So - what's it matter what he
told Junior years ago? That statement from Senior came at a time when
Junior and Senior were struggling with power between each other. It's easy
to assume that Senior was exerting his authority over Junior, rather than
talking about the risk of engine damage. But - that is just an assumption -
means nothing really. Senior was clearly not a fan of burnouts himself, so
it may have just been him insisting on his way or the highway with Junior.

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