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Ok then, how about "act like you've been there before"... |
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DE had never won the D500 in how many tries and it was fitting to do a slide across the graphic. |
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Doing burnouts, unless its to heat up your tires, is plain childish. How's that for a reason? |
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In article <f02h8f$hg3a$1 (AT) usenet (DOT) osg.ufl.edu>, jimmygator (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote: Ok then, how about "act like you've been there before"... just another cliche. See this is the whole point. Kenseth, Busch, Johnson, Stewart HAVE been there before! They HAVE won championships! No less significant, than any other's championship. DE had never won the D500 in how many tries and it was fitting to do a slide across the graphic. Yeah. And he was my favorite driver. But he's dead. Waltrip is retired. Wallace is retired. Martin is almost retired. Jarrett is done. Schrader never was. All these old guys are just that... old guys. The new guys do, and the new crowd, accept and expect burnouts, like old farts look for the Polish Victory Lap. That was a good tribute. The first time. But the 'new' crowd, doesn't even know who Kulwicki was. Doing burnouts, unless its to heat up your tires, is plain childish. How's that for a reason? I don't think it's a reason, I think it's an opinion. |
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If it's what you believe, that's all that matters. I think team dancing in the end zone is silly. I think a 6'5" 240lb pitcher wearing a huge gold necklace is silly. I think jumping up in the air and pounding chests after scoring the 3rd basket in a game that will see 100 of them, is silly. I think standing at home plate and watching your ball go over the fence is insulting. But I also know, that this is what today's crowd accepts. I don't have to like it. But I do understand it. And I don't think it has anything to do with "being there before".... I just accept that things change, and realize that I can't live in the past. |
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Hey, my preference? I like getting the checkered flag, and taking a regular old Saturday night victory lap.. Talk about old fashioned!! Agreed! |
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You don't think it to be a childish act? |
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these new fans you speak of seem to like to watching wrecks over racing so why aren't these new breed of drivers wrecking more often? |
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Hey, my preference? I like getting the checkered flag, and taking a regular old Saturday night victory lap.. Talk about old fashioned!! Agreed! |
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"Mike Marlow" <mmarlow (AT) alltel (DOT) net> wrote in message news:b8e1$4622bd41$45289716$26518 (AT) ALLTEL (DOT) NET... "MWB" <bickmar (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:4622b7b9$0$1372$4c368faf (AT) roadrunner (DOT) com... "Chuck Steak" <chuck_steak (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message news:0DyUh.2234$BS2.1902 (AT) trndny01 (DOT) .. In article <1176679763.098950.171540 (AT) e65g2000hsc (DOT) googlegroups.com>, "Ron" BigELilE05 (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote: Why take a chance on ruining a winning car? If it were as big a deal, as people make it out to be... there would be 'orders'.... from the owners. DE warned Jr. about damaging a motor. Big deal. How many blown motors have you seen from a burnout? How many Crew Chiefs or owners have you seen ban their drivers from doing burnouts in order to protect a motor? -- -Mike- mmarlowREMOVE (AT) alltel (DOT) net Dale Earnhardt told his son, after winning a Busch race that if he damaged the motor doing a celebration burnout, he'd have to pay for the motor. Didn't you understand my post? Mark |
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| Chuck Steak wrote: In article <462439de$0$5802$4c368faf (AT) roadrunner (DOT) com>, "MWB" bickmar (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Geeze, my favorite driver is Ricky Craven (currently unemployed) and when he won two races it was great not to see him burning up a motor. I like Jeff Burton and it was so nice to see someone act like a pro. Mark See.. this is what I was talking about earlier... Acting like a pro? Today's standards have changed. The "pro's" DO burnouts.. The crowd LOVES burnouts. The PROS give the audience what it wants... simple. What would be more accurate would be "I like seeing them celebrate like they did did in the old days". Burnouts are an extreme donut. And they have been doing donuts for a LONG time... I agree with Mike 100%. I wish people would just say "I hate watching a guy do burnouts" rather than all of the other reasons, that just don't make any sense.. (unprofessional, engine damage, body damage, concern for the motor builders, yada, yada, yada...) Ok then, how about "act like you've been there before"... DE had never won the D500 in how many tries and it was fitting to do a slide across the graphic. Now if this continued after every win thereafter, I'd say once was enough... Doing burnouts, unless its to heat up your tires, is plain childish. How's that for a reason? G I'm trying to remember a few years back where the first and second place |
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On Apr 15, 5:44 pm, RES2CUE28 <res2... (AT) mountaincable (DOT) net> wrote: Billy Ryman wrote: Burton explained several years ago that he doesn't believe in "burn outs". He went on to say that the people in the engine and fab shops work too damn hard for him to abuse the equipment like that. He is a class act. why? they are going to tear that engine apart and completely rebuild it from scratch anyways... It's not like he is saving them any work. They are going to rebuild it but if the part was damaged and maybe about to fail, the team would have no way of knowing of whether or not it was about to fail on track and cost them a race later, or if it was done during the abuse of the post race burn outs. If you want burn outs, go to the drag races. They never have had a place in Nascar. Old schoolers don't do burn outs. Jeff Burton is old school. |
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Gordon wrote: Chuck Steak wrote: In article <462439de$0$5802$4c368faf (AT) roadrunner (DOT) com>, "MWB" bickmar (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Geeze, my favorite driver is Ricky Craven (currently unemployed) and when he won two races it was great not to see him burning up a motor. I like Jeff Burton and it was so nice to see someone act like a pro. Mark See.. this is what I was talking about earlier... Acting like a pro? Today's standards have changed. The "pro's" DO burnouts.. The crowd LOVES burnouts. The PROS give the audience what it wants... simple. What would be more accurate would be "I like seeing them celebrate like they did did in the old days". Burnouts are an extreme donut. And they have been doing donuts for a LONG time... I agree with Mike 100%. I wish people would just say "I hate watching a guy do burnouts" rather than all of the other reasons, that just don't make any sense.. (unprofessional, engine damage, body damage, concern for the motor builders, yada, yada, yada...) Ok then, how about "act like you've been there before"... DE had never won the D500 in how many tries and it was fitting to do a slide across the graphic. Now if this continued after every win thereafter, I'd say once was enough... Doing burnouts, unless its to heat up your tires, is plain childish. How's that for a reason? G I'm trying to remember a few years back where the first and second place finishers were teammates and both started doing donuts in the grass and burnouts... I thought the first loser celebrating like that was too much. Something tells me it might have been JJ. |
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"MWB" <bickmar (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:462439de$0$5802$4c368faf (AT) roadrunner (DOT) com... Mike, please excuse my stupidity. I was rude and I'm sorry. You are a gentleman. All right - that's enough of that stuff Mark. I have a reputation to protect and you calling me names like that is harmful to my reputation. BTW - you weren't rude at all - at least not that I saw. As far as stupidity goes, heck, that's a badge of honor. Pity those who think they know it all. |
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On Apr 15, 6:44 pm, RES2CUE28 <res2... (AT) mountaincable (DOT) net> wrote: Billy Ryman wrote: Burton explained several years ago that he doesn't believe in "burn outs". He went on to say that the people in the engine and fab shops work too damn hard for him to abuse the equipment like that. He is a class act. why? they are going to tear that engine apart and completely rebuild it from scratch anyways... It's not like he is saving them any work. But as seen in the past (Harvick), you can explode the rear tires and destroy the sheet metal/quarterpanels. Why take a chance on ruining a winning car? |
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"Chuck Steak" <chuck_steak (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message news:0DyUh.2234$BS2.1902 (AT) trndny01 (DOT) .. In article <1176679763.098950.171540 (AT) e65g2000hsc (DOT) googlegroups.com>, "Ron" BigELilE05 (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote: Why take a chance on ruining a winning car? If it were as big a deal, as people make it out to be... there would be 'orders'.... from the owners. DE warned Jr. about damaging a motor. Mark No problem there. He's got to win one in order to damage a motor in a burn |

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