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Default Re: Jimmie Johnson's Car Illegal for Qualifying - 02-14-2006 , 12:29 PM







armpit wrote:
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"Nancy1" <nancy-dooley (AT) uiowa (DOT) edu> wrote in message
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Richard Cranium wrote:
Better explaination from jayski.com......

disallowed by NASCAR. There are a bunch of other issues in the garage
area. In fact, some issues with the #31 team of Jeff Burton. That's
right. Your Daytona 500 polesitter. Those issues have to do with the
engine, and that's being hotly discussed in the garage area right now.
In the media center after the Budweiser Shootout, NASCAR said it is
researching several things from post-500 qualifying tech, including
Burton's car as well as the #24 car of Jeff Gordon.(FoxSports), see
qualifying results on my Daytona 500 Qualifying/Grid page.

See? Just rumors to stir things up - of course, they're going to look
at the top two Q spots. They always do a really thorough post-Q
inspection on the pole-sitter. But there is NOTHING further in Jayski
about the top two Q'fiers, so, boys, this is how rumors start and grow.
Shame on Jayski and shame on DW for perpetuating this stuff.

N.

Jayski's page is titled "News and Rumors"
Anyone who passes on anything they read there as fact is irresponsible.
You mean I was too kind? Gee, that's a first. >;-)

N.



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Default Re: Jimmie Johnson's Car Illegal for Qualifying - 02-14-2006 , 01:00 PM






Here i was about to give Marlow a 'me 2', then Weasel
counterpoints him. Here's a 'me 2 too' to Weasel.
Carry on u master debaters --
Crusader

"WildWeasel" <wweasel_24 (AT) HooYah (DOT) com> wrote

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"Mike Marlow" wrote:

How about what I suggested... if the car is found to be out of spec during
pre-race, then make it legal in order to race it. Then go race. So what if
they try to push the envelope? There's just way too much interest in
punishing the bad boys and not enough focus on racing. Hell, not a lap can
go by these days, not a day of pre-race activities can go by without some
sort of rules infraction and some follow-up punishment. If the car is found
to be illegal after the race, then fine - disqualify the car. Take the
purse away and you'll influence behaviors.


But in practice, Mike, I don't think it would work. You'd see massively
borderline cars (this just over the line, that just a bit out of spec, ...)
coming to pre-Q/race inspection and letting nascar tell them what to change then
having to change it and going back through, with more borderline stuff ...
inspections would go on forever.

I agree with your theory, but that's just my guess on how it would work in
reality.

Now, if they said you get one chance to fix it and if you don't PASS the second
time you go home ... they'd be less likely to throw too many oddball things at
the room of doom staff. but nascar doesn't want to send someone home,
'specially a star, with a zillion of that star's hats and tees sitting in the
stands.

You know, if that would be the case and say the 8 car came through for round 2
and there was something wrong, they wouldn't say anything, let him race them
flunk him on post race inspection.





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Default Re: Jimmie Johnson's Car Illegal for Qualifying - 02-14-2006 , 01:06 PM



"armpit" <udontneedit (AT) myemail (DOT) addy> wrote

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"Nancy1" <nancy-dooley (AT) uiowa (DOT) edu> wrote in message
news:1139930544.675715.33320 (AT) g47g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com...

Richard Cranium wrote:
Better explaination from jayski.com......

disallowed by NASCAR. There are a bunch of other issues in the garage
area. In fact, some issues with the #31 team of Jeff Burton. That's
right. Your Daytona 500 polesitter. Those issues have to do with the
engine, and that's being hotly discussed in the garage area right now.
In the media center after the Budweiser Shootout, NASCAR said it is
researching several things from post-500 qualifying tech, including
Burton's car as well as the #24 car of Jeff Gordon.(FoxSports), see
qualifying results on my Daytona 500 Qualifying/Grid page.

See? Just rumors to stir things up - of course, they're going to look
at the top two Q spots. They always do a really thorough post-Q
inspection on the pole-sitter. But there is NOTHING further in Jayski
about the top two Q'fiers, so, boys, this is how rumors start and grow.
Shame on Jayski and shame on DW for perpetuating this stuff.

N.

Jayski's page is titled "News and Rumors"
Anyone who passes on anything they read there as fact is irresponsible.

Betcha Jayski's Rumors are above 90% accuracy. He usually is correct
concerning driver changes & will reprint from the beginning.

Hope u distinguish between the very few words Jayski writes
and the many words other writers write.

As for me, just label me a Cut-n-Paster
And Nancy--what kind of woman are u that doesn't enjoy a good rumor?
CRU




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armpit
 
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Default Re: Jimmie Johnson's Car Illegal for Qualifying - 02-14-2006 , 01:07 PM




"Crusader" <cru32 (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote

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"armpit" <udontneedit (AT) myemail (DOT) addy> wrote in message
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"Nancy1" <nancy-dooley (AT) uiowa (DOT) edu> wrote in message
news:1139930544.675715.33320 (AT) g47g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com...

Richard Cranium wrote:
Better explaination from jayski.com......

disallowed by NASCAR. There are a bunch of other issues in the garage
area. In fact, some issues with the #31 team of Jeff Burton. That's
right. Your Daytona 500 polesitter. Those issues have to do with the
engine, and that's being hotly discussed in the garage area right now.
In the media center after the Budweiser Shootout, NASCAR said it is
researching several things from post-500 qualifying tech, including
Burton's car as well as the #24 car of Jeff Gordon.(FoxSports), see
qualifying results on my Daytona 500 Qualifying/Grid page.

See? Just rumors to stir things up - of course, they're going to look
at the top two Q spots. They always do a really thorough post-Q
inspection on the pole-sitter. But there is NOTHING further in Jayski
about the top two Q'fiers, so, boys, this is how rumors start and grow.
Shame on Jayski and shame on DW for perpetuating this stuff.

N.

Jayski's page is titled "News and Rumors"
Anyone who passes on anything they read there as fact is irresponsible.

Betcha Jayski's Rumors are above 90% accuracy. He usually is correct
concerning driver changes & will reprint from the beginning.

Hope u distinguish between the very few words Jayski writes
and the many words other writers write.

As for me, just label me a Cut-n-Paster
And Nancy--what kind of woman are u that doesn't enjoy a good rumor?
CRU

Jayski's stuff just sometimes needs to be taken with a grain of salt,
particularly the stuff from unnamed sources. Other stuff he has is clearly
news, as it is reprinted from credible sources.




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Default Re: Jimmie Johnson's Car Illegal for Qualifying - 02-14-2006 , 02:13 PM




"WildWeasel" <wweasel_24 (AT) HooYah (DOT) com> wrote


Quote:
But in practice, Mike, I don't think it would work. You'd see massively
borderline cars (this just over the line, that just a bit out of spec,
....)
coming to pre-Q/race inspection and letting nascar tell them what to
change then
having to change it and going back through, with more borderline stuff ...
inspections would go on forever.
Well, it could be limited to two passes through the inspection station in
order to get it race legal. Want to take your chances on borderline? Fine
take your chances.

Quote:
I agree with your theory, but that's just my guess on how it would work in
reality.
Yeah but it did work a lot more like this for years. Not specifically as
we've bantered about here, but certainly with less of this failed this,
failed that stuff.

Quote:
Now, if they said you get one chance to fix it and if you don't PASS the
second
time you go home ... they'd be less likely to throw too many oddball
things at
the room of doom staff. but nascar doesn't want to send someone home,
'specially a star, with a zillion of that star's hats and tees sitting in
the
stands.
Ah-hah! If I'd have read down far enough I'd have seen this stellar
suggestion.

Quote:
You know, if that would be the case and say the 8 car came through for
round 2
and there was something wrong, they wouldn't say anything, let him race
them
flunk him on post race inspection.


Like I said - let NASCAR hold the bad for inspection responsibility. Pass
the car and it's race legal. They're trying to cover too many bases with
all of the inspections and rules now.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE (AT) alltel (DOT) net




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