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"RickyBobby" <nasca... (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote in message news:KM71i.270611$115.128848 (AT) newsfe10 (DOT) phx... tonystewart02_05ch... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1178928950.242712.327660 (AT) y80g2000hsf (DOT) googlegroups.com... On May 11, 7:31 pm, "RickyBobby" <nasca... (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote: tonystewart02_05ch... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1178925409.618431.321620 (AT) q75g2000hsh (DOT) googlegroups.com... On May 11, 7:05 pm, "RickyBobby" <nasca... (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote: Everybody knows that Junior is a second rate driver snip bullshit Your posts are now on the same level as Farva, the only thing missing is the cross-post to the wrasslin' group. Congrats! If you want to see a good natural born driver you can look at the career of Davey Allison. Davey's career was sadly cut short by an aircraft accident but at least he could drive a stock car right up there with the best of them. Luckily for you Davey did die, because if not, your Wonder Boy would have 3 less championships and about 50 less wins. I totally agree. Davey Allison could driver that fucking car better than anyone. For all of the thousands of posts I have made in this chat room I never once said than Jeff Gordon could drive a NASCAR better than Davey. And....If Davey had lived, Dale Sr. would have at least 4 less championships and about 50 less wins. ...........or he would have killed himself sooner while trying to beat Davey. |
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"RickyBobby" <nascar42 (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote in message news:5f71i.275242$g24.246586 (AT) newsfe12 (DOT) phx... "Thomas" <wharry (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:f22upd$m30$2 (AT) news04 (DOT) infoave.net... RickyBobby wrote: Everybody knows that Junior is a second rate driver on anything but the high-banked tracks. Since most of the races that count for the points are not run on the big banked tracks it is an impossibility for Junior to ever win a Championship in favor of the real good drivers such as too many to list. Junior will poison and ruin whichever teams ends up with the Bud sponsorship money just as he poisoned and ruined his own team with his constant whining and excuse making. You just wait and see if that sack of excuses ever wins a Championship with his limited ability and you know he will not no matter how lucky he might get in the short term. There are some Champions still competing Jeff Gordon Jimmie Johnson Matt Kenseth Kurt Busch Tony Stewart You forgot Dale Jarrett and Bobby Labonte. And Terry Labonte and Bill Elliott if you want to count them. Champions who have a chance at becoming champions again? That's a different story. Kudos for giving Montoya the credit he deserves though. You forgot Denny Hamlin on your list though. -Thomas The list of drivers who are better that silverspoons is pretty long. You cannot fault me for missing one or two. That pissy whiner thinks that a Cup Championship is his birthright just as the Busch Championships came to him so easily. He needs to talk to Tony Stewart and Jimmie Johnson and Jeff Gordon about that. And then he can talk to Matt Kenseth and Kurt Busch and then he can talk to about six other drivers including Hamlin. Silverspoons can shop hisself and Budweiser around to whoever he likes but we shall see what we shall see in terms of talent and character. Andbody who would throw his own extended family under the bus does not have much in terms of character. America was not made on that and neither was NASCAR. You would never see an Allison do that to the rest of the Allison family or a Petty or a Jarrett or an Elliott or anybody else but silverspoons. Kyle Petty drove for his dad from 77'-85'. He left Petty Enterprises in 85' and got his first win in 86' driving for the Wood Bros. He came back to help run the family business in 96'. |
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"Thomas" <wharry (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:f22upd$m30$2 (AT) news04 (DOT) infoave.net... RickyBobby wrote: Everybody knows that Junior is a second rate driver on anything but the high-banked tracks. Since most of the races that count for the points are not run on the big banked tracks it is an impossibility for Junior to ever win a Championship in favor of the real good drivers such as too many to list. Junior will poison and ruin whichever teams ends up with the Bud sponsorship money just as he poisoned and ruined his own team with his constant whining and excuse making. You just wait and see if that sack of excuses ever wins a Championship with his limited ability and you know he will not no matter how lucky he might get in the short term. There are some Champions still competing Jeff Gordon Jimmie Johnson Matt Kenseth Kurt Busch Tony Stewart You forgot Dale Jarrett and Bobby Labonte. And Terry Labonte and Bill Elliott if you want to count them. Champions who have a chance at becoming champions again? That's a different story. Kudos for giving Montoya the credit he deserves though. You forgot Denny Hamlin on your list though. -Thomas The list of drivers who are better that silverspoons is pretty long. You cannot fault me for missing one or two. |
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That pissy whiner thinks that a Cup Championship is his birthright just as the Busch Championships came to him so easily. He needs to talk to Tony Stewart and Jimmie Johnson and Jeff Gordon about that. And then he can talk to Matt Kenseth and Kurt Busch and then he can talk to about six other drivers including Hamlin. |
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Silverspoons can shop hisself and Budweiser around to whoever he likes but we shall see what we shall see in terms of talent and character. Andbody who would throw his own extended family under the bus does not have much in terms of character. |
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America was not made on that and neither was NASCAR. You would never see an Allison do that to the rest of the Allison family or a Petty or a Jarrett or an Elliott or anybody else but silverspoons. |
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RickyBobby wrote: "Thomas" <wharry (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:f22upd$m30$2 (AT) news04 (DOT) infoave.net... RickyBobby wrote: Everybody knows that Junior is a second rate driver on anything but the high-banked tracks. Since most of the races that count for the points are not run on the big banked tracks it is an impossibility for Junior to ever win a Championship in favor of the real good drivers such as too many to list. Junior will poison and ruin whichever teams ends up with the Bud sponsorship money just as he poisoned and ruined his own team with his constant whining and excuse making. You just wait and see if that sack of excuses ever wins a Championship with his limited ability and you know he will not no matter how lucky he might get in the short term. There are some Champions still competing Jeff Gordon Jimmie Johnson Matt Kenseth Kurt Busch Tony Stewart You forgot Dale Jarrett and Bobby Labonte. And Terry Labonte and Bill Elliott if you want to count them. Champions who have a chance at becoming champions again? That's a different story. Kudos for giving Montoya the credit he deserves though. You forgot Denny Hamlin on your list though. -Thomas The list of drivers who are better that silverspoons is pretty long. You cannot fault me for missing one or two. I think Jr's a good driver and a better car will help him win more races. I think Jimmie Johnson and Jeff Gordon are mainly products of the system...put them in DEI cars and they become a non-factor. That pissy whiner thinks that a Cup Championship is his birthright just as the Busch Championships came to him so easily. He needs to talk to Tony Stewart and Jimmie Johnson and Jeff Gordon about that. And then he can talk to Matt Kenseth and Kurt Busch and then he can talk to about six other drivers including Hamlin. I wouldn't lump Stewart and Hamlin in with the rest of those guys. Stewart and Hamlin are actually really good drivers, not just guys who lucked into really good cars. Silverspoons can shop hisself and Budweiser around to whoever he likes but we shall see what we shall see in terms of talent and character. Andbody who would throw his own extended family under the bus does not have much in terms of character. It's not his family. It's his arrogant, gold digging whore of a stepmother who didn't think she needed him. His family is going with him wherever he goes. America was not made on that and neither was NASCAR. You would never see an Allison do that to the rest of the Allison family or a Petty or a Jarrett or an Elliott or anybody else but silverspoons. Didn't Petty do it? -Thomas |
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"Thomas" <wha... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:f236bg$ub4$1 (AT) news04 (DOT) infoave.net... RickyBobby wrote: "Thomas" <wha... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:f22upd$m30$2 (AT) news04 (DOT) infoave.net... RickyBobby wrote: Everybody knows that Junior is a second rate driver on anything but the high-banked tracks. Since most of the races that count for the points are not run on the big banked tracks it is an impossibility for Junior to ever win a Championship in favor of the real good drivers such as too many to list. Junior will poison and ruin whichever teams ends up with the Bud sponsorship money just as he poisoned and ruined his own team with his constant whining and excuse making. You just wait and see if that sack of excuses ever wins a Championship with his limited ability and you know he will not no matter how lucky he might get in the short term. There are some Champions still competing Jeff Gordon Jimmie Johnson Matt Kenseth Kurt Busch Tony Stewart You forgot Dale Jarrett and Bobby Labonte. And Terry Labonte and Bill Elliott if you want to count them. Champions who have a chance at becoming champions again? That's a different story. Kudos for giving Montoya the credit he deserves though. You forgot Denny Hamlin on your list though. -Thomas The list of drivers who are better that silverspoons is pretty long. You cannot fault me for missing one or two. I think Jr's a good driver and a better car will help him win more races. I think Jimmie Johnson and Jeff Gordon are mainly products of the system...put them in DEI cars and they become a non-factor. That pissy whiner thinks that a Cup Championship is his birthright just as the Busch Championships came to him so easily. He needs to talk to Tony Stewart and Jimmie Johnson and Jeff Gordon about that. And then he can talk to Matt Kenseth and Kurt Busch and then he can talk to about six other drivers including Hamlin. I wouldn't lump Stewart and Hamlin in with the rest of those guys. Stewart and Hamlin are actually really good drivers, not just guys who lucked into really good cars. Silverspoons can shop hisself and Budweiser around to whoever he likes but we shall see what we shall see in terms of talent and character. Andbody who would throw his own extended family under the bus does not have much in terms of character. It's not his family. It's his arrogant, gold digging whore of a stepmother who didn't think she needed him. His family is going with him wherever he goes. America was not made on that and neither was NASCAR. You would never see an Allison do that to the rest of the Allison family or a Petty or a Jarrett or an Elliott or anybody else but silverspoons. Didn't Petty do it? -Thomas I do not disagree with your fandom of Junior because he does seem to be an awfully nice and sincere guy but I do not believe he can drive a race car like Jeff or Johnson or Stewart or Kenseth or either Busch. But I could very easily be wrong about that. Junior is done for 2007 as a backstabbing and disloyal and unfaithful lame duck but in 2008 and beyond he could be the hot shoe to watch. But of course by then he will be deep into his thirties and his best years will have been behind him in terms of reflexes and vision and courage but we shall see what we shall see. Junior used to be a decent guy until he gutted the family business but in terms of NASCAR Cup Championship I think he is a pretender. Junior is the Darryl Strawberry of NASCAR in my opinion. On the entire other hand things could work out where Junior does drive better than the good drivers and I could be all wrong in my prediction. I do not think so because I have been following this sport pretty closely for the past years but that is why they run the races. I do not think that Junior is as good as he thinks he is but then if he did not think that he was that good he would not be trying so hard to get a consistent competitive car for all 36 points races. If it were me personally I would not gut my family but then again I have never been there and seen what it is like to win and be immortal. All in all, I actually do hope that Junior does win a Championship sometime in the next decade because it would be like a Greek tragedy and make all of the betrayal look like worthwhile. |
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And....If Davey had lived, Dale Sr. would have at least 4 less championships and about 50 less wins. ...........or he would have killed himself sooner while trying to beat Davey. |
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Everybody knows that Junior is a second rate driver on anything but the high-banked tracks. Since most of the races that count for the points are not run on the big banked tracks it is an impossibility for Junior to ever win a Championship in favor of the real good drivers such as too many to list. Junior will poison and ruin whichever teams ends up with the Bud sponsorship money just as he poisoned and ruined his own team with his constant whining and excuse making. You just wait and see if that sack of excuses ever wins a Championship with his limited ability and you know he will not no matter how lucky he might get in the short term. There are some Champions still competing Jeff Gordon Jimmie Johnson Matt Kenseth Kurt Busch Tony Stewart and there are some others who could win if they did well Carl Edwards Kasey Kahne Jamie McMurray Kyle Busch that next Busch coming up Juan Pablo Fernandez Montoya J.J.J. Yeley So the idea that Junior could actually win a championship with his limit of ability and excess of baggage is a big joke. What kind of human being guts their family business anyhow? |
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"Thomas" <wharry (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:f236bg$ub4$1 (AT) news04 (DOT) infoave.net... RickyBobby wrote: "Thomas" <wharry (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:f22upd$m30$2 (AT) news04 (DOT) infoave.net... RickyBobby wrote: Everybody knows that Junior is a second rate driver on anything but the high-banked tracks. Since most of the races that count for the points are not run on the big banked tracks it is an impossibility for Junior to ever win a Championship in favor of the real good drivers such as too many to list. Junior will poison and ruin whichever teams ends up with the Bud sponsorship money just as he poisoned and ruined his own team with his constant whining and excuse making. You just wait and see if that sack of excuses ever wins a Championship with his limited ability and you know he will not no matter how lucky he might get in the short term. There are some Champions still competing Jeff Gordon Jimmie Johnson Matt Kenseth Kurt Busch Tony Stewart You forgot Dale Jarrett and Bobby Labonte. And Terry Labonte and Bill Elliott if you want to count them. Champions who have a chance at becoming champions again? That's a different story. Kudos for giving Montoya the credit he deserves though. You forgot Denny Hamlin on your list though. -Thomas The list of drivers who are better that silverspoons is pretty long. You cannot fault me for missing one or two. I think Jr's a good driver and a better car will help him win more races. I think Jimmie Johnson and Jeff Gordon are mainly products of the system...put them in DEI cars and they become a non-factor. That pissy whiner thinks that a Cup Championship is his birthright just as the Busch Championships came to him so easily. He needs to talk to Tony Stewart and Jimmie Johnson and Jeff Gordon about that. And then he can talk to Matt Kenseth and Kurt Busch and then he can talk to about six other drivers including Hamlin. I wouldn't lump Stewart and Hamlin in with the rest of those guys. Stewart and Hamlin are actually really good drivers, not just guys who lucked into really good cars. Silverspoons can shop hisself and Budweiser around to whoever he likes but we shall see what we shall see in terms of talent and character. Andbody who would throw his own extended family under the bus does not have much in terms of character. It's not his family. It's his arrogant, gold digging whore of a stepmother who didn't think she needed him. His family is going with him wherever he goes. America was not made on that and neither was NASCAR. You would never see an Allison do that to the rest of the Allison family or a Petty or a Jarrett or an Elliott or anybody else but silverspoons. Didn't Petty do it? -Thomas I do not disagree with your fandom of Junior |
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because he does seem to be an awfully nice and sincere guy but I do not believe he can drive a race car like Jeff or Johnson or Stewart or Kenseth or either Busch. |
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But I could very easily be wrong about that. Junior is done for 2007 as a backstabbing and disloyal and unfaithful lame duck but in 2008 and beyond he could be the hot shoe to watch. |
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But of course by then he will be deep into his thirties and his best years will have been behind him in terms of reflexes and vision and courage but we shall see what we shall see. Junior used to be a decent guy until he gutted the family business but in terms of NASCAR Cup Championship I think he is a pretender. |
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Junior is the Darryl Strawberry of NASCAR in my opinion. |
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On the entire other hand things could work out where Junior does drive better than the good drivers and I could be all wrong in my prediction. |
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I do not think so because I have been following this sport pretty closely for the past years but that is why they run the races. I do not think that Junior is as good as he thinks he is but then if he did not think that he was that good he would not be trying so hard to get a consistent competitive car for all 36 points races. If it were me personally I would not gut my family but then again I have never been there and seen what it is like to win and be immortal. |
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All in all, I actually do hope that Junior does win a Championship sometime in the next decade because it would be like a Greek tragedy and make all of the betrayal look like worthwhile. |
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On May 11, 7:31 pm, "RickyBobby" <nasca... (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote: tonystewart02_05ch... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1178925409.618431.321620 (AT) q75g2000hsh (DOT) googlegroups.com... On May 11, 7:05 pm, "RickyBobby" <nasca... (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote: Everybody knows that Junior is a second rate driver snip bullshit Your posts are now on the same level as Farva, the only thing missing is the cross-post to the wrasslin' group. Congrats! If you want to see a good natural born driver you can look at the career of Davey Allison. Davey's career was sadly cut short by an aircraft accident but at least he could drive a stock car right up there with the best of them. Luckily for you Davey did die, because if not, your Wonder Boy would have 3 less championships and about 50 less wins. |
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