Kyle Busch = The Best

#11

"smk17" <smk17 (AT) cornell (DOT) edu> wrote

On Jun 3, 10:42 am, "John Poutre" <mehates... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

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"Dan L" <heyyy... (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote in message

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"smk17" <sm... (AT) cornell (DOT) edu> wrote in message
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On Jun 2, 8:24 am, Roger Hamilton <noem... (AT) deademail (DOT) tyx> wrote:
No doubt, this guy is showing that he is better than anyone else.
Right now he is likely the only driver who has a real chance at the
Cup Championship. He will leave the remainlng 11 in the chase in the
dust.

Which, translated, means that when NASCAR starts the chase, and
bunches the top ten MUCH closer in points, he will have one bad race
and be knocked out of contention. His awesome season will simply be
forgotten. Remember last year?

Yeah he'll finish the season with 500 more points overall
then the winner of the championship. And show what a joke
Nascar is once again.

So, I guess the NFL is a joke because they allowed the Giants to win
against
a team that had more wins. Ouch...

Ouch? You make it sound as if your comparison is right on the money
and the winner of The Best In Your Face Comparison Award. That is not
even close to being a relevant comparison. Not even apples and oranges
dude. Your comparison was more like apples and rusted bolts off a '64
Ford.

I've said this once and I will say it again. The NASCAR Chase is
exactly the same as if you were to stop the leader of a marathon 50
feet before the finish line. Then make him stand idle while the other
runners catch up.

It's not what you do at the end of the race, it's what you do through
the entire marathon.

Ouch....
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You are not even close, but thanks for playing. Got a good laugh.

#12

In article smk17 <smk17 (AT) cornell (DOT) edu> wrote:

Quote:

... You make it sound as if your comparison is right on the money
and the winner of The Best In Your Face Comparison Award.

I've said this once and I will say it again. The NASCAR Chase is
exactly the same as if you were to stop the leader of a marathon 50
feet before the finish line.

Yeah... that's much closer.
Instead of apples and oranges,
you choose apples and grapefruit.

Dan
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#13

In article "Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE (AT) alltel (DOT) net> wrote:

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I don't think he's the most talented by any means, but he
has what it takes - a won't lose attitude.

Judging talent is tough.
Mainly because we don't always know what the original
question is, exactly.
Is he the most talented 'race car' driver?
I'd say no.
Is he the most talented 'NASCAR COT' driver?
I'd say right now... yes.
It doesn't seem to matter a whole lot if the car is
spot on.. the kid makes it go, regardless.

Dan
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you really don't have much of a choice...

#14

"John Poutre" <mehatespam (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

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"Dan L" <heyyyyyy (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote in message
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"smk17" <smk17 (AT) cornell (DOT) edu> wrote in message
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On Jun 2, 8:24 am, Roger Hamilton <noem... (AT) deademail (DOT) tyx> wrote:
No doubt, this guy is showing that he is better than anyone else.
Right now he is likely the only driver who has a real chance at the
Cup Championship. He will leave the remainlng 11 in the chase in the
dust.

Which, translated, means that when NASCAR starts the chase, and
bunches the top ten MUCH closer in points, he will have one bad race
and be knocked out of contention. His awesome season will simply be
forgotten. Remember last year?

Yeah he'll finish the season with 500 more points overall
then the winner of the championship. And show what a joke
Nascar is once again.

So, I guess the NFL is a joke because they allowed the Giants to win
against a team that had more wins. Ouch...

One more time - for the slow readers out there - This is not football.

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-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE (AT) alltel (DOT) net

#15

"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE (AT) alltel (DOT) net> wrote

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"smk17" <smk17 (AT) cornell (DOT) edu> wrote in message
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On Jun 2, 8:24 am, Roger Hamilton <noem... (AT) deademail (DOT) tyx> wrote:
No doubt, this guy is showing that he is better than anyone else.
Right now he is likely the only driver who has a real chance at the
Cup Championship. He will leave the remainlng 11 in the chase in the
dust.

Which, translated, means that when NASCAR starts the chase, and
bunches the top ten MUCH closer in points, he will have one bad race
and be knocked out of contention. His awesome season will simply be
forgotten. Remember last year?

Yeah he'll finish the season with 500 more points overall
then the winner of the championship. And show what a joke
Nascar is once again.

So, I guess the NFL is a joke because they allowed the Giants to win
against a team that had more wins. Ouch...

One more time - for the slow readers out there - This is not football.

LOL, no, but it's a valid comparison that kind of kills the arguement
against the chase format where people think because someone wins the regular
season (first 26 races) that they are entitled to win the chase.

#16

"John Poutre" <mehatespam (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

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LOL, no, but it's a valid comparison that kind of kills the arguement
against the chase format where people think because someone wins the
regular season (first 26 races) that they are entitled to win the chase.

We shouldn't go here John, because we'll just open up the whole can of worms
again, but oh well - what the hell..

I don't see it that way at all. NASCAR has not defined a regular season and
a Championship game. They simply picked a spot in the season, reset the
points, and then continued the season. No comparison to the other sports at
all. I really don't think that any other sport's particular way of running
their season and post-season in any way kills the arguments against the
Chase. Like I said - this is not football. You can't kill the argument
against something racing does, based on what football does.

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#17

Mike Marlow wrote:

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"John Poutre" <mehatespam (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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LOL, no, but it's a valid comparison that kind of kills the arguement
against the chase format where people think because someone wins the
regular season (first 26 races) that they are entitled to win the chase.

We shouldn't go here John, because we'll just open up the whole can of worms
again, but oh well - what the hell..

I don't see it that way at all. NASCAR has not defined a regular season and
a Championship game. They simply picked a spot in the season, reset the
points, and then continued the season. No comparison to the other sports at
all. I really don't think that any other sport's particular way of running
their season and post-season in any way kills the arguments against the
Chase. Like I said - this is not football. You can't kill the argument
against something racing does, based on what football does.

I see it more like hockey. Almost every team makes the playoffs
regardless of how bad they were during the regular season. Then its
into the tournament. Substitute bracket seedings for points adjustments
and Hockey and NASCAR look pretty close.

#18

On Jun 3, 9:22 am, smk17 <sm... (AT) cornell (DOT) edu> wrote:

Quote:

I've said this once and I will say it again. The NASCAR Chase is
exactly the same as if you were to stop the leader of a marathon 50
feet before the finish line. Then make him stand idle while the other
runners catch up.

It's not what you do at the end of the race, it's what you do through
the entire marathon.

Ouch....

I guess you failed to consider the concept of a yellow flag/

8^)

#19

On Jun 4, 6:22*pm, DAVe <smalleys... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:

On Jun 3, 9:22 am, smk17 <sm... (AT) cornell (DOT) edu> wrote:

I've said this once and I will say it again. The NASCAR Chase is
exactly the same as if you were to stop the leader of a marathon 50
feet before the finish line. Then make him stand idle while the other
runners catch up.

It's not what you do at the end of the race, it's what you do through
the entire marathon.

Ouch....

I guess you failed to consider the concept of a yellow flag/

8^)

No, when I referred to the "race" and "marathon" I meant the entire
season as one big race. It shouldn't matter what you do at the end of
the season as long as what you did early in the season put you far
enough ahead.

#20

On Jun 5, 7:42 am, smk17 <sm... (AT) cornell (DOT) edu> wrote:

Quote:

On Jun 4, 6:22 pm, DAVe <smalleys... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

On Jun 3, 9:22 am, smk17 <sm... (AT) cornell (DOT) edu> wrote:

I've said this once and I will say it again. The NASCAR Chase is
exactly the same as if you were to stop the leader of a marathon 50
feet before the finish line. Then make him stand idle while the other
runners catch up.

It's not what you do at the end of the race, it's what you do through
the entire marathon.

Ouch....

I guess you failed to consider the concept of a yellow flag/

8^)

No, when I referred to the "race" and "marathon" I meant the entire
season as one big race. It shouldn't matter what you do at the end of
the season as long as what you did early in the season put you far
enough ahead.

Ok I'll type slow this time.

In auto racing it does not matter how far ahead you got when a yellow
flag is thrown. The field is bunched up. You keep your position but
you loose all that wasted energy spent getting far ahead of the field.
Most mature drivers know this and don't waste all their gas and tires
trying to get as far ahead of the field as is humanly possible. Most
newbees don't.

"That's Racin!"

Get it now?