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Default Kyle Busch is a Whiner - 08-08-2009 , 06:42 PM






Hello

That was a great move Marcos put on him. I did not see anything wrong
there. That's what they are supposed to do: RACE!

Dave

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Default Re: Kyle Busch is a Whiner - 08-08-2009 , 06:55 PM






On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 15:42:43 -0700 (PDT), zagman <daveh (AT) allheller (DOT) net> wrote:

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Hello

That was a great move Marcos put on him. I did not see anything wrong
there. That's what they are supposed to do: RACE!

Dave

Man, I could not agree more. K.B. has no grounds to criticize anyone for
aggressive driving. Marcos made an awesome move to make the pass - exactly what a
race car driver is supposed to do. No harm, no foul.

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Default Re: Kyle Busch is a Whiner - 08-08-2009 , 07:04 PM



I'm not sticking up for Kyle 100%, don't get me wrong,
but that pass was a little borderline with respect to being a
"great pass", imo..
Yeah, you need to be aggressive, but you need to be on the track.
Anybody can go flying into a corner in the dirt.
It's not like he gave Kyle much choice but to hit the deck.
That had wreck written all over it when he came back on the track,
he was certainly gong to wipe out the guy next to him... (Kyle).
That's just the way I remember it.. could be way off...

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Default Re: Kyle Busch is a Whiner - 08-08-2009 , 07:14 PM



connor wrote:
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On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 15:42:43 -0700 (PDT), zagman <daveh (AT) allheller (DOT) net> wrote:

Hello

That was a great move Marcos put on him. I did not see anything wrong
there. That's what they are supposed to do: RACE!

Dave


Man, I could not agree more. K.B. has no grounds to criticize anyone for
aggressive driving. Marcos made an awesome move to make the pass - exactly what a
race car driver is supposed to do. No harm, no foul.
He's a fucking hypocrite, period.

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Default Re: Kyle Busch is a Whiner - 08-08-2009 , 10:09 PM



"I didn't see him."

What the hell kind of race car driver running in first place does not
know _exactly_ where the second place car is at all times?

If you did not see him you deserved to get passed.

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Default Re: Kyle Busch is a Whiner - 08-08-2009 , 11:45 PM



"Tim Shelton" <noemail1543 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

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On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 15:42:43 -0700 (PDT), zagman <daveh (AT) allheller (DOT) net
wrote:

Hello

That was a great move Marcos put on him. I did not see anything wrong
there. That's what they are supposed to do: RACE!

Dave

Ambrose cut him off by not allowing KyB to drive the track, it was
intentional and should have been flagged for that move. It is one
thing to race competitively but to take away the opportunity to be
competitive is wrong. That move should have been flagged and KyB
should have been moved to the front.
There is no such thing as a requirement to allow someone else to be
competitive. It's racing - the guy with the biggest ones wins.

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Default Re: Kyle Busch is a Whiner - 08-09-2009 , 09:37 AM



In article DAVe <smalleyster (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

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What the hell kind of race car driver running in first place does not
know _exactly_ where the second place car is at all times?

If every driver knew exactly where the guy behind him was all the time,
there wouldn't be nearly as many wrinkled fenders...

EVERY week, and I mean EVERY week, there are situations
where you hear "well Bobby Joe thought he was clear,
and just didn't know Billy Bob was there..."

As for what kind of driver doesn't know?
There are plenty of divisions in racing where you aren't
allowed mirrors.
You don't know if you are leading by 2 feet, or a half of a straight.
In some cases/tracks you need to look.
In most others, you are better off looking ahead, and not behind.

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Default Re: Kyle Busch is a Whiner - 08-09-2009 , 09:37 AM



Chuck_Steak (AT) nospam (DOT) com (Chuck Steak) wrote in news:Qvnfm.1325$Jg.694
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I'm not sticking up for Kyle 100%, don't get me wrong,
but that pass was a little borderline with respect to being a
"great pass", imo..
Yeah, you need to be aggressive, but you need to be on the track.
Anybody can go flying into a corner in the dirt.
I think the "thru the dirt" bit was Ambrose realizing he wasn't
as far up on Busch as he needed to be, and was taking evasive
action to avoid contact.

Had Busch followed his normal line into the corner (rather than
also taking evasive action bypassing the chicane) then Ambrose
would have been in trouble, probably ending up in the gravel
trap just like Menard did earlier in the race.

I dunno that it was a "great" pass unless one subcribes to the idea
that any successful race-winning pass is a great one, but on the
other hand even tho Ambrose had the faster car, there's not a
whole lot of opportunities on that track to pass a car that's
almost as good (not like an oval where you can run side-by-side
for 10 laps, making up a couple of feet in each corner). Seems
like Ambrose took his shot where he thought he had an opening,
and while I doubt it worked quite how he expected, he ended up
with the result he needed.

John

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Default Re: Kyle Busch is a Whiner - 08-09-2009 , 11:03 AM



On Aug 8, 6:42*pm, zagman <da... (AT) allheller (DOT) net> wrote:
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Hello

That was a great move Marcos put on him. I did not see anything wrong
there. That's what they are supposed to do: RACE!

Dave
KB being a whiner is nothing new. He is that way all the time. Also,
he would have passed *EXACTLY* the same way that Marcus did had the
positions been reversed.

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Default Re: Kyle Busch is a Whiner - 08-09-2009 , 11:28 AM



"John McCoy" <igopogo (AT) ix (DOT) netcom.com> wrote


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I dunno that it was a "great" pass unless one subcribes to the idea
that any successful race-winning pass is a great one, but on the
other hand even tho Ambrose had the faster car, there's not a
whole lot of opportunities on that track to pass a car that's
almost as good (not like an oval where you can run side-by-side
for 10 laps, making up a couple of feet in each corner). Seems
like Ambrose took his shot where he thought he had an opening,
and while I doubt it worked quite how he expected, he ended up
with the result he needed.

John
One of the few scanner bites that BSPN gave us that wasn't garbled was
Marcos' CC telling him to "... keep the pressure on...he'll blink."

He blinked.

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Tom in Bristol

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