Lap 3 at the Busch race

#21

On 2006-02-19 07:58:12 -0500, Steveo <moparholic (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> said:

Quote:

Julia <nospam (AT) home (DOT) com> wrote:
On 2006-02-19 07:34:22 -0500, Steveo <moparholic (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> said:

"The Hammer" <HammerDrops (AT) bullshit (DOT) stops> wrote:
Ron wrote:
The only fatal blow delivered that day was from a concrete wall.

Sterling was in his ass for the last 5 laps before he wrecked. And
Sterling caused it. That's what the guy was alluding to.

Sterling didn't race yesterday, he was talking about Schrader cutting a
tire. Neither of them caused Dale's death btw.

don't let the fact's get in the way of their delusional drivel.
Besides, anyone who continues to believe either Marlin or Schrader had
anything to do with Dale's death doesn't know a bit about racing nor do
they have a lick of common sense ~ it's no use even trying to get
through to them.

You're right, Julia. I should know better than to take the bait, and that's
all it is good for, getting a rise out of people.

that's all most of them or after, pretty much..... either that or they
want to expose their ignorance and lack of understanding of the sport.
It's one thing to watch a race, and it's another thing to understand
whats going on while your're watching it. It's threads like this one
that separate the two groups.

Anyway, forget the morons, and enjoy the race today.... it seemed like
a real long off-season this year. I'm so ready for that green flag to
drop...

--
...."your head can't rule your heart ~ a feeling is so much stronger
than a thought"... $1 to Bono (U2) from "Vertigo"

http://www.u2.com/music/lyrics.php?song=447&list=v

#22

Julia <nospam (AT) home (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:

Anyway, forget the morons, and enjoy the race today.... it seemed like
a real long off-season this year. I'm so ready for that green flag to
drop...

Sounds like a plan. We're having a few friends over to watch it, pig out

and throw a few cold ones down. Enjoy!

#23

Maybe more people should use IMSO, rather than IMHO. I don't see the H in
most cases.

#24

The Hammer wrote:

Quote:

Ron wrote:
SM NEVER touched DES's car on the last lap in turn 4.

Sterling got DE loose from either a bump or by taking the air off the read
of DE's car. Sterling had been bumping him repeatedly for the last few
laps, trying to get him loose so he could pass DE.

http://espn.go.com/rpm/wc/2001/0218/1093772.html
Earnhardt, running fourth, grazed Sterling Marlin's car, crashed into the
wall at the high-banked fourth turn going about 180 mph, and was smacked
hard by Ken Schrader.

http://www.nascar.com/2001/NEWS/02/18/earnhardt_stewart/index.html
His No. 3 Richard Childress Racing Chevrolet was bumped into the spin by
Sterling Marlin's closely following No. 40 Dodge between Turns 3 and 4 of
the 2.5-mile speedway as a tangled pack of cars raced to the checkered flag.

http://www.racehippie.com/nascar-history/history-of-nascar.php
Although there were some reports that Marlin touched Earnhardt's bumper,
most observers in the press box concluded that there was no contact and that
Earnhardt lost control because Marlin's car disrupted the airflow across
Earnhardt's rear spoiler.

Rusty came up the middle and took the air off of DES's spoiler causing
him to get loose and he lost control of the car.

It was Sterling Marlin, not Rusty. He (Marlin) had been doing it for the
last 5 minutes of the race - trying to get DE loose and pass him.

And what the OP is talking about, is today during the BUSCH race they
had a silent lap on lap 3, during the "silent lap" Kenny Schrader cut
down a tire and spun out.

The OP is insinuating that KS delivered the "fatal blow" in the 2001
Daytona 500.

I believe the initial impact with the wall killed DE instantly.

You can post 100 links if you want to. I have the race recorded on DVR
and have watched that last lap MANY times. If you watch it frame by
frame, you can see that SM NEVER touched DES, nor did he take the air
off. Rusty did. Why only a handful of ppl have brought this up, just
baffles me. I guess it's just easier not to really look at it closely
and to blame SM.

#25

"Steveo" <moparholic (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

Julia <nospam (AT) home (DOT) com> wrote:
Anyway, forget the morons,

Sounds like a plan.

If only you would both heed your own advice in the first place
;-)

As I said last week:

Ladies and Gentlemen, START YOUR KILLFILES

#26

La Vonna wrote:

Quote:

"Ron" <BigELilE05 (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1140321551.154748.16590 (AT) f14g2000cwb (DOT) googlegroups.com...

The Hammer wrote:
Ron wrote:
The only fatal blow delivered that day was from a concrete wall.

Sterling was in his ass for the last 5 laps before he wrecked. And
Sterling
caused it. That's what the guy was alluding to. Click on the "Final
Laps" video: http://www.nascar.com/special/earnhardt/

SM NEVER touched DES's car on the last lap in turn 4.

Rusty came up the middle and took the air off of DES's spoiler causing
him to get loose and he lost control of the car.

Ohhh.....so now it's Rusty's fault? This just gets better and better.
My take on this lap 3 thing of today......it's DE himself saying "Enough
with the silent lap 3!"
He wasn't one for all of this attention.
--
La Vonna

Please point out to me where I said it was someones fault.

If you, along with A LOT of other ppl, would look at it frame by frame,
the way I have since it happened, you would realize that Rusty took the
air off of DES's car. SM didn't have a thing to do with DES loosing
control on the last lap.

#27

Steveo wrote:

Quote:

"Ron" <BigELilE05 (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote:
The Hammer wrote:
Ron wrote:
The only fatal blow delivered that day was from a concrete wall.

Sterling was in his ass for the last 5 laps before he wrecked. And
Sterling caused it. That's what the guy was alluding to. Click on
the "Final Laps" video: http://www.nascar.com/special/earnhardt/

SM NEVER touched DES's car on the last lap in turn 4.

Rusty came up the middle and took the air off of DES's spoiler causing
him to get loose and he lost control of the car.

And what the OP is talking about, is today during the BUSCH race they
had a silent lap on lap 3, during the "silent lap" Kenny Schrader cut
down a tire and spun out.

The OP is insinuating that KS delivered the "fatal blow" in the 2001
Daytona 500.

Don't ruin his stink bait with the facts, Ron.

Excuse me? The facts are recorded on my DVR.

Apparentally some ppl would rather just go with the flow instead of
taking a close look themselves and realizing that all of this "SM
bumped DES on the last lap sending him into the wall" is incorrect.

Ever looked at it frame by frame on a DVR?

Anyone that isn't blind can clearly see that it was RW taking the air
off of DES's car, not SM bumping him, that caused him to lose control.

#28

"Ron" <BigELilE05 (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:

Steveo wrote:
"Ron" <BigELilE05 (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote:
The Hammer wrote:
Ron wrote:
The only fatal blow delivered that day was from a concrete wall.

Sterling was in his ass for the last 5 laps before he wrecked. And
Sterling caused it. That's what the guy was alluding to. Click
on the "Final Laps" video:
http://www.nascar.com/special/earnhardt/

SM NEVER touched DES's car on the last lap in turn 4.

Rusty came up the middle and took the air off of DES's spoiler
causing him to get loose and he lost control of the car.

And what the OP is talking about, is today during the BUSCH race they
had a silent lap on lap 3, during the "silent lap" Kenny Schrader cut
down a tire and spun out.

The OP is insinuating that KS delivered the "fatal blow" in the 2001
Daytona 500.

Don't ruin his stink bait with the facts, Ron.

Excuse me? The facts are recorded on my DVR.

Apparentally some ppl would rather just go with the flow instead of
taking a close look themselves and realizing that all of this "SM
bumped DES on the last lap sending him into the wall" is incorrect.

Ever looked at it frame by frame on a DVR?

Anyone that isn't blind can clearly see that it was RW taking the air
off of DES's car, not SM bumping him, that caused him to lose control.

I was agreeing with you, Ron..read it again with your dvr.

#29

Julia wrote:

Quote:

On 2006-02-19 07:58:12 -0500, Steveo <moparholic (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> said:

Julia <nospam (AT) home (DOT) com> wrote:
On 2006-02-19 07:34:22 -0500, Steveo <moparholic (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> said:

"The Hammer" <HammerDrops (AT) bullshit (DOT) stops> wrote:
Ron wrote:
The only fatal blow delivered that day was from a concrete wall.

Sterling was in his ass for the last 5 laps before he wrecked. And
Sterling caused it. That's what the guy was alluding to.

Sterling didn't race yesterday, he was talking about Schrader cutting a
tire. Neither of them caused Dale's death btw.

don't let the fact's get in the way of their delusional drivel.
Besides, anyone who continues to believe either Marlin or Schrader had
anything to do with Dale's death doesn't know a bit about racing nor do
they have a lick of common sense ~ it's no use even trying to get
through to them.

You're right, Julia. I should know better than to take the bait, and that's
all it is good for, getting a rise out of people.

that's all most of them or after, pretty much..... either that or they
want to expose their ignorance and lack of understanding of the sport.
It's one thing to watch a race, and it's another thing to understand
whats going on while your're watching it. It's threads like this one
that separate the two groups.

Anyway, forget the morons, and enjoy the race today.... it seemed like
a real long off-season this year. I'm so ready for that green flag to
drop...

LMAO @ "It's one thing to watch a race, and it's another thing to

understand
whats going on while your're watching it"

Yeah boy, it's tough understanding a NASCAR race. LOL!

Let me ask you a question, what was the cause of DES's car getting
loose on the last lap causing him to lose control and hit the wall?

Be careful with your answer, your understanding of NASCAR races is at
stake.

#30

The only person that cost Dale Earnhardt his life that day was
himself, for stepping into the car in the first place. It's like when
people die in an airplane crash, they don't die if their not on the
plane. It's all just fate and circumstance, for the religious nuts
Gods plan so to speak.