The Little Fat Driver inherits the pole

#11

Quote:

Probably after the first 5 races since technically they are still
using last years standings for the top 35 + Robby Gordon for some
reason. Now THAT is the only thing suspicious.

I think that those sneaky bastards at NASCAR are unfairly using the rule
book to set the starting lineup. They probably had all that rain brought in
too, just to get their favorites in the field and with good starting places.

#12

"Electrician" <electrician (AT) xo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

The LFD on the pole? That's almost fair, let's set starting positions by
last
years owners points. Let's not use this years point standings, something
that
would make sense. Or draw a number out of hat which would be the only fair
way to do it since no one earned a starting position. And if they are
going
to use points from a previous year, why use last years? Why not use the
owners
points from 5,10,15 or 20 years ago. It makes as much sense. NASCAR at it
finest, rigged in favor of the big teams and big money.

Why don't we just have fan pick for all starting positions. And, like days
of old when only property owners could vote, each fan gets one vote for each
ticket stub they have for the races they have attended.

#13

"bud smith" <budsmith (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

"Electrician" <electrician (AT) xo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:v40Vf.311$b07.260 (AT) trnddc05 (DOT) ..
The LFD on the pole? That's almost fair, let's set starting positions by
last
years owners points. Let's not use this years point standings, something
that
would make sense. Or draw a number out of hat which would be the only
fair
way to do it since no one earned a starting position. And if they are
going
to use points from a previous year, why use last years? Why not use the
owners
points from 5,10,15 or 20 years ago. It makes as much sense. NASCAR at it
finest, rigged in favor of the big teams and big money.

Why don't we just have fan pick for all starting positions. And, like
days of old when only property owners could vote, each fan gets one vote
for each ticket stub they have for the races they have attended.

I bet the drivers would be a lot more fan-friendly.

Would that mean that if a driver wasn't in the top 43 in popularity, he goes
home?

#14

"armpit" <armarmpitpit (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

"Mike Smith" <mike_z (AT) excite (DOT) com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 22:30:51 -0500, RES2CUE28
not_here_nor_there (AT) anywhere (DOT) com> wrote:

Ron wrote:
Electrician wrote:

The LFD on the pole? That's almost fair, let's set starting
positions by
last
years owners points. Let's not use this years point
standings, something
that
would make sense. Or draw a number out of hat which would
be the only
fair
way to do it since no one earned a starting position. And
if they are
going
to use points from a previous year, why use last years? Why
not use the
owners
points from 5,10,15 or 20 years ago. It makes as much
sense. NASCAR at
it
finest, rigged in favor of the big teams and big money.

It's been that way for yrs.

ummm, I thought whithin the last 2-3 yrs, the drivers lined
up according
to present point standings when qualifying was rained out...

Probably after the first 5 races since technically they are
still
using last years standings for the top 35 + Robby Gordon for
some
reason. Now THAT is the only thing suspicious.

Maybe I missed the memo on this, but they do still start 43
cars at Bristol,
right?

The question is: How do they determine starting positions
36-43? This years
points? Last years?

I would imagine that Texas Terry gets one for the champions
provisional, so
that leaves 7 spots.

If only there was somewhere a person could go to find this stuff
out, like some kind of information center that's accessible
somehow, hrmmm........

What happens if qualifying gets rained out?

If it is the first 5 races of the season, the previous season
OWNERS points are used:

#1) - Previous season Owner Points [position 1-35]
#2) - Race winners from the previous and current season not
already in the field
#3) - Past Nextel Cup Champions not in by 1 or 2
#4) - Current season Owner Points [Top 35][not in by rules 1-3]
#5) - Current season race attempts ties broken by current owners
points standings [not in by rules 1-4]
After the 5th race of the season, the current season OWNERS
points are used:
#1) - First 35 by current Owner Points
#2) - Last Years Cup Champ or the Event Champion if not already
in the field
#3) - Car Owners whose team has won in the previous and current
season not already in the field
#4) - Drivers who have won in the previous and current season not
already in the field
#5) - Past Nextel Cup Champions not in by 1 thru 4
#6) - Qualifying Attempts with Owners points as the tie breaker
#7) - Qualifying Order Position
(all above apply as long as the team was entered by the entry
deadline - usually 7-13 days before the race)

#15

In article <1143254967.939375.148470 (AT) g10g2000cwb (DOT) googlegroups.com>,
BigELilE05 (AT) msn (DOT) com says...

Quote:

It's been that way for yrs.

I guess that makes it fair then.

#16

In article <200603242242478930-nospam@homecom>, nospam (AT) home (DOT) com says...

Quote:

shhhhh.... it's always fun watching the morons babble...

Everyone can't be as smart or as knowledgable as you dipstick. But thanks for
posting such as clever response.

#17

"SG" <spaamtrapper (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

"armpit" <armarmpitpit (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
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"Mike Smith" <mike_z (AT) excite (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:k8f922dp4kmi07i4olpm1gcbna56or66ba (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 22:30:51 -0500, RES2CUE28
not_here_nor_there (AT) anywhere (DOT) com> wrote:

Ron wrote:
Electrician wrote:

The LFD on the pole? That's almost fair, let's set starting
positions by
last
years owners points. Let's not use this years point
standings, something
that
would make sense. Or draw a number out of hat which would
be the only
fair
way to do it since no one earned a starting position. And
if they are
going
to use points from a previous year, why use last years? Why
not use the
owners
points from 5,10,15 or 20 years ago. It makes as much
sense. NASCAR at
it
finest, rigged in favor of the big teams and big money.

It's been that way for yrs.

ummm, I thought whithin the last 2-3 yrs, the drivers lined
up according
to present point standings when qualifying was rained out...

Probably after the first 5 races since technically they are
still
using last years standings for the top 35 + Robby Gordon for
some
reason. Now THAT is the only thing suspicious.

Maybe I missed the memo on this, but they do still start 43
cars at Bristol,
right?

The question is: How do they determine starting positions
36-43? This years
points? Last years?

I would imagine that Texas Terry gets one for the champions
provisional, so
that leaves 7 spots.

If only there was somewhere a person could go to find this stuff
out, like some kind of information center that's accessible
somehow, hrmmm........

What happens if qualifying gets rained out?

If it is the first 5 races of the season, the previous season
OWNERS points are used:

#1) - Previous season Owner Points [position 1-35]
#2) - Race winners from the previous and current season not
already in the field
#3) - Past Nextel Cup Champions not in by 1 or 2
#4) - Current season Owner Points [Top 35][not in by rules 1-3]
#5) - Current season race attempts ties broken by current owners
points standings [not in by rules 1-4]
After the 5th race of the season, the current season OWNERS
points are used:
#1) - First 35 by current Owner Points
#2) - Last Years Cup Champ or the Event Champion if not already
in the field
#3) - Car Owners whose team has won in the previous and current
season not already in the field
#4) - Drivers who have won in the previous and current season not
already in the field
#5) - Past Nextel Cup Champions not in by 1 thru 4
#6) - Qualifying Attempts with Owners points as the tie breaker
#7) - Qualifying Order Position
(all above apply as long as the team was entered by the entry
deadline - usually 7-13 days before the race)

Although I was too lazy and unmotivated to look up the procedures, I did
know where to find them.

My previous comment in this thread was directed at Mike Smith, who seemed to
think that Robbie Gordon somehow didn't deserve to be included in the
starting field, yet gave no reason as to why not.

#18

"bud smith" <budsmith (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

Probably after the first 5 races since technically they are still
using last years standings for the top 35 + Robby Gordon for some
reason. Now THAT is the only thing suspicious.

I think that those sneaky bastards at NASCAR are unfairly using the rule
book to set the starting lineup. They probably had all that rain brought
in
too, just to get their favorites in the field and with good starting
places.

LOL

I love good sarcasm. Really.

#19

Electrician wrote:

Quote:

In article <1143254967.939375.148470 (AT) g10g2000cwb (DOT) googlegroups.com>,
BigELilE05 (AT) msn (DOT) com says...

It's been that way for yrs.

I guess that makes it fair then.

What's not fair, IMO, is giving a spot to Terry L for something he
accomplished 10 yrs ago.

#20

"Ron" <BigELilE05 (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

Electrician wrote:
In article
1143254967.939375.148470 (AT) g10g20...oglegroups.com>,
BigELilE05 (AT) msn (DOT) com says...

It's been that way for yrs.

I guess that makes it fair then.

What's not fair, IMO, is giving a spot to Terry L for something
he
accomplished 10 yrs ago.

Actually, 22 yrs ago ;-)

Of course, it's the most recent past champions provisional. So,
should Tony, Matt, Kurt, etc., need one, Terry would be SOL.