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Default Montoya pit road speeds... - 07-27-2009 , 01:14 PM






Pit road has eight zones where the speed is measured. The speed limit
in the pits at Indy is 55 mph. NASCAR gives the drivers a 5 mph
cushion.

Darby said Montoya was caught over the cushion in Zones 2 and 4.
Officially, the speed was recorded at 60.06 mph in Zone 2 and 60.11
mph in Zone 4.

"And he was already pushing it," Darby said. "He was over 59 miles per
hour in most of the other zones."

http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/nascar/cup/columns/story?columnist=blount_terry&id=4357511

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Default Re: Montoya pit road speeds... - 07-27-2009 , 03:11 PM






On Jul 27, 3:38*pm, Tim Shelton <noemail1... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

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What was his average speed through all zones, that is what should be
taken into account.
No. It is each zone.

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Default Re: Montoya pit road speeds... - 07-27-2009 , 03:48 PM



Tim Shelton wrote:
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On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:14:16 -0700 (PDT), twisted
thenitedude (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Pit road has eight zones where the speed is measured. The speed limit
in the pits at Indy is 55 mph. NASCAR gives the drivers a 5 mph
cushion.

Darby said Montoya was caught over the cushion in Zones 2 and 4.
Officially, the speed was recorded at 60.06 mph in Zone 2 and 60.11
mph in Zone 4.

"And he was already pushing it," Darby said. "He was over 59 miles per
hour in most of the other zones."

http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/nascar/cup/columns/story?columnist=blount_terry&id=4357511

What was his average speed through all zones, that is what should be
taken into account.
Is that what you tell the cop when you get pulled over for speeding?

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Default Re: Montoya pit road speeds... - 07-27-2009 , 05:49 PM



twisted <thenitedude (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in news:b82ffee1-9f9b-4370-9ed0-
dd8dd0fc75a2 (AT) e18g2000vbe (DOT) googlegroups.com:

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On Jul 27, 3:38*pm, Tim Shelton <noemail1... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:


What was his average speed through all zones, that is what should be
taken into account.

No. It is each zone.
Actually, the rule doesn't say anything at all about average speeds.
You can't exceed the specified speed anywhere, for any length of
time. The only reason for the zones is that there isn't a better
way to measure the speeds, not because the rule calls for them.

John

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Default Re: Montoya pit road speeds... - 07-27-2009 , 07:34 PM



Tim Shelton wrote:
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On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:14:16 -0700 (PDT), twisted
thenitedude (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Pit road has eight zones where the speed is measured. The speed limit
in the pits at Indy is 55 mph. NASCAR gives the drivers a 5 mph
cushion.

Darby said Montoya was caught over the cushion in Zones 2 and 4.
Officially, the speed was recorded at 60.06 mph in Zone 2 and 60.11
mph in Zone 4.

"And he was already pushing it," Darby said. "He was over 59 miles per
hour in most of the other zones."

http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/nascar/cup/columns/story?columnist=blount_terry&id=4357511

What was his average speed through all zones, that is what should be
taken into account.
the rule is you can't exceed the speed in any of the zones
rules are rules
go display your manlove for montoya in alt.faggots.timshelton

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Default Re: Montoya pit road speeds... - 07-27-2009 , 08:26 PM



Tim Shelton wrote:

Quote:
twisted wrote:

Pit road has eight zones where the speed is measured. The speed limit
in the pits at Indy is 55 mph. NASCAR gives the drivers a 5 mph
cushion.

Darby said Montoya was caught over the cushion in Zones 2 and 4.
Officially, the speed was recorded at 60.06 mph in Zone 2 and 60.11
mph in Zone 4.

"And he was already pushing it," Darby said. "He was over 59 miles per
hour in most of the other zones."

http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/nascar/cup/columns/story?columnist=blount_terry&id=4357511

What was his average speed through all zones, that is what should be
taken into account.
Well, that would be one way to diminish the advantage of having the
first pit box - the drivers could be going 90 MPH past the pit crew,
since they were going slow in their own box's zone and "it's based on
the average speed".

The intent of the rule is to protect the pit crews. If there was an
extremely accurate way to detect the speed of the cars at every point
on pit road, NASCAR would probably consider using it.

-- Don

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Default Re: Montoya pit road speeds... - 07-28-2009 , 07:40 AM



In article Tim Shelton <noemail1543 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

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Average all zones up to the entry of each pit, then average all zones
on exit of pit to track reentry. Take the average of all zones,
simple.
No more simple than the current method..
It's all done with transponders/computers.


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Default Re: Montoya pit road speeds... - 07-28-2009 , 05:40 PM



"Tim Shelton" <noemail1543 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote


Quote:
Actually, the rule doesn't say anything at all about average speeds.
You can't exceed the specified speed anywhere, for any length of
time. The only reason for the zones is that there isn't a better
way to measure the speeds, not because the rule calls for them.

John

There is the cause for averaging all zones.

You can't do an average because he could drive way over the speed limit in
some zones. The pit crews in the zones he is speeding in are in unnecessary
danger. The reason they have the speed limits on pit road is to help keep
people from getting killed. Therefore, whenever a driver is speeding on pit
road, he should be penalized. What do no not understand about this concept?


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Default Re: Montoya pit road speeds... - 07-28-2009 , 08:54 PM



Tim Shelton wrote:

Quote:
Don Del Grande wrote:

Tim Shelton wrote:

twisted wrote:

Pit road has eight zones where the speed is measured. The speed limit
in the pits at Indy is 55 mph. NASCAR gives the drivers a 5 mph
cushion.

Darby said Montoya was caught over the cushion in Zones 2 and 4.
Officially, the speed was recorded at 60.06 mph in Zone 2 and 60.11
mph in Zone 4.

"And he was already pushing it," Darby said. "He was over 59 miles per
hour in most of the other zones."

http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/nascar/cup/columns/story?columnist=blount_terry&id=4357511

What was his average speed through all zones, that is what should be
taken into account.

Well, that would be one way to diminish the advantage of having the
first pit box - the drivers could be going 90 MPH past the pit crew,
since they were going slow in their own box's zone and "it's based on
the average speed".

The intent of the rule is to protect the pit crews. If there was an
extremely accurate way to detect the speed of the cars at every point
on pit road, NASCAR would probably consider using it.

Average all zones up to the entry of each pit, then average all zones
on exit of pit to track reentry. Take the average of all zones,
simple.
The problem is, that defeats the purpose of the rule. Again, the rule
isn't there to keep the drivers from using pit road as a shortcut of
some sort or to make sure that a drive through penalty is just that -
it's there to protect the pit crews. If you have to slow down and
swerve to avoid another car when leaving your box, that should not be
an excuse for being allowed to go faster the rest of the way out of
pit road.

"Gee, officer, I know it's a 25 MPH limit in a school zone, especially
with all of these kids around, but I only went 15 in the first half of
the zone, so why can't I go 35 in the second half - that averages out
to 25, doesn't it?"

-- Don

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Default Re: Montoya pit road speeds... - 07-28-2009 , 10:48 PM



"John McCoy" <igopogo (AT) ix (DOT) netcom.com> wrote

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Actually, the rule doesn't say anything at all about average speeds.
You can't exceed the specified speed anywhere, for any length of
time. The only reason for the zones is that there isn't a better
way to measure the speeds, not because the rule calls for them.

John
Could you please show me this rule? Where did you get your copy of the
rule book?
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