NASCAR will now penalize bump-drafting

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"51_racing" <none (AT) nowhere (DOT) none> wrote

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Interesting rules. Especially in that they only allow the metrics as
frames, but you can run any motor in them. Sounds like you'd be able to
produce a decent amount of HP with the engine rules (I hate vacuum rules
though). How do those 7.5" rear ends hold up? Good to see they at least
require some sort of measure to keep the axles in them things. Since the
gearing in those is so limited, do most people run in 1st or 2nd gear
then? We can run any rear end in ours, mine has the typical ford 9" in it,
so I run a glide in high gear.
Other than that, the rules sound fairly simliar. If you need any help on
motor stuff shoot me an email. I'm pretty familiar with the listed Chevy
heads, also intakes etc. What are you running for a carb? I see it's
fairly open for you. I just sold my two racing quadrajets cause I have to
run the 4412, but if you are looking for one, I can point you in the right
direction to a guy that builds great ones.

The rear ends hold up pretty well. There is even quite a market for used
cars in this division. I haven't spent too much time around the limiteds,
but the couple I have dealt with run in second gear.

Dave is putting the car together down in Galveston, and I don't get down
there much. We pretty much communicate over the phone or by email, so I
don't know what we are running for a carb. If we have engine issues, I will
drop a line, but Dave has been racing in this area (and up as far as
Indiana) for over 25 years. He used to run everything from sprint cars to
late models to "skinny cars" and was instrumental in getting dwarf cars
going here (they have been replaced by mini modifieds) and did all his own
engine work. He originally built the car to run as a vintage mod, with a
fiberglass body, but the guy who has the series down here pissed him off.
The car is the same as a limited mod so he has reskinned it.

The cars are almost as fast as the UMP mods that run in the area.

Carey in Manvel

#22

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"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE (AT) alltel (DOT) net> wrote in message
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Go back and read the press release again. It does not say no bump
drafting.

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-Mike-
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But that's the point, "overzealous bumpdrafting" Who's gonna determine what
is overzealous or not? Letting off the throttle at 200 MPH with someone
right on your back bumper is perhaps gonna cause an apparent "overzealous"
bumpdrafting incident ruling.
Not really sure I have an answer for NASCARs problems with this issue
though.

#23

Mike Marlow wrote:

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"The Hammer" <HammerDrops (AT) bullshit (DOT) stops> wrote in message
Jbob wrote:
How will the
NASCAR spotters tell the difference with all the cars so close?

When the airbags go off, you can see it from the stands..

Well... if the driver behind would simply watch for the brake
lights...

Well, he cannot see them if his airbag is deployed. That's why they have
spotters in the stands.

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#24

"Jbob" <nobody (AT) SpamCox (DOT) net> wrote

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"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE (AT) alltel (DOT) net> wrote in message
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Go back and read the press release again. It does not say no bump
drafting.

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-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE (AT) alltel (DOT) net

But that's the point, "overzealous bumpdrafting" Who's gonna determine
what
is overzealous or not? Letting off the throttle at 200 MPH with someone
right on your back bumper is perhaps gonna cause an apparent "overzealous"
bumpdrafting incident ruling.
Not really sure I have an answer for NASCARs problems with this issue
though.

I agree that it's too subjective as it stands but the point is it's not
about "no bump drafting", it's about no bump drafting in the turns.

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-Mike-
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#25

"SimRacer" <nOspaM@simracer68 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

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Unbelievable. They stick those stupid plates on the cars and make it so
you can't pass without bumping, then they outlaw bumping. Duh.

The simpler solution would, of course, be to take away the strength from the
front bumper. Ideally, this should have been done before the beginning of
the season. It's not like this is a new problem.

This idea has a lot of support from the talking heads, no doubt.
If they don't fix it, somehow (beyond some subjective rule), then I say go
back to the roof blades, taller spoilers, and wicker bills. The NBS seems to
get by ok with that package. And drivers and commentators alike seem to
think it was a good package now that we're where we are today.

I can see why u would vote for the TaxiCab package, Sim.

5 races from 10/00 DE's last win thru 10/01 only RAD cars won!
But since there's no more RAD, i'll vote for the TaxiCabs too

Of course if i were in charge of NA$CAr/ISC, i would repave Daytona
with progressive banking of no more than 24 degrees. Plates go POOF!
CRU

#26

"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE (AT) alltel (DOT) net> wrote

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"Jbob" <nobody (AT) SpamCox (DOT) net> wrote in message
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So no bump drafting huh? Let's see how this is gonna play out. You're
going around at Daytona with your foot to the floor. Your closest
competitor is right on your back bumper. You wonder just how you can help
with his finishing status? Simple!! LIFT. Next thing you know this guy on
your rear bumper is now bump drafting you. Now he get's a penalty and
you're gonna be points ahead. How will the NASCAR spotters tell the
difference with all the cars so close?

Go back and read the press release again. It does not say no bump drafting.
-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE (AT) alltel (DOT) net

But Jbob apparently has seen the Law of Unintended Consequences

when it comes to NA$CAr's subjective new rule interpretations of the past.
CRU-who thinks David Hoots will be in his finest incompetent mode.

#27

noone (AT) nowhere (DOT) com wrote:

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In article <1139975132.614723.131310 (AT) g14g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com>,
"Ron" <BigELilE05 (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote:

That will certainly make it easier to fix the race for Junior

Care to explain your logic?

Sure. Just like NASCAR fixed Daytona so his dad could win, NASCAR will
ensure that #8 gets the call.

WOW!........It took them 20 yrs to "fix" it?

#28

"Ron" <BigELilE05 (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote

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That will certainly make it easier to fix the race for Junior

Care to explain your logic?

Junior has went under the yellow line many times and passed and they have
never called him for it. Just what we need another subjective call by
NASCAR. All they have to do is call the main competitors of Junior and
penalize them and Junior will win the race. Rules are not to be subjective.
Junior never gets called for rough driving even though he crashes more
people than anyone else besides Mike Wallace. He is very talented but anyone
who is looking at it without the budweiser glasses would have to admit that
Junior gets the benefit of every call.

#29

"The Hammer" <HammerDrops (AT) bullshit (DOT) stops> wrote

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Mike Marlow wrote:
"The Hammer" <HammerDrops (AT) bullshit (DOT) stops> wrote in message
Jbob wrote:
How will the
NASCAR spotters tell the difference with all the cars so close?

When the airbags go off, you can see it from the stands..

Well... if the driver behind would simply watch for the brake
lights...

Well, he cannot see them if his airbag is deployed. That's why they have
spotters in the stands.

See that? Ya learn something new every day.

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mmarlowREMOVE (AT) alltel (DOT) net

#30

Mike Marlow wrote:

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"The Hammer" <HammerDrops (AT) bullshit (DOT) stops> wrote in message
Well, he cannot see them if his airbag is deployed. That's why they
have spotters in the stands.

See that? Ya learn something new every day.

I am here for you. I am a people person.

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