AutosTalk Forums  

New Rule for Lucky Dog?

Nascar NASCAR and other professional stock car racing (rec.autos.sport.nascar)


Discuss New Rule for Lucky Dog? in the Nascar forum.



Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old   
draymond
 
Posts: n/a

Default New Rule for Lucky Dog? - 10-20-2003 , 10:02 AM






I read that from now on the person getting the lucky dog pass under yellow
can make only one pit stop. They can't come back on with 1 to go and top
off. This is the strategy that Ryan Newman used to win earlier.

What I'm wondering though is this: why not just wait to 1 to go to make your
pit stop to begin with. You still only make one stop, you still get the 2-3
extra miles of fuel, and you still have the same track position. What is
the point of the rule, unless it says you can make only 1 stop, and it has
to be on the first lap of yellow with the leaders?

Dan



Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old   
Alan J. Claffie
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: New Rule for Lucky Dog? - 10-20-2003 , 10:10 AM






"draymond" <draymond (AT) insightbb (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
What I'm wondering though is this: why not just wait to 1 to go to make
your
pit stop to begin with. You still only make one stop, you still get the
2-3
extra miles of fuel, and you still have the same track position. What is
the point of the rule, unless it says you can make only 1 stop, and it has
to be on the first lap of yellow with the leaders?
Someone will do this next week at Atlanta, and next Monday there will be a
new rule saying that the lucky dog recipient has to pit on the same lap as
the rest of the lapped cars, and the "work in progress" will continue until
someone finds another new way to find the unfair advantage in it, and that
will get fixed the next week, lather, rinse, repeat.




Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old   
43fan
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: New Rule for Lucky Dog? - 10-20-2003 , 11:31 AM




"draymond" <draymond (AT) insightbb (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I read that from now on the person getting the lucky dog pass under yellow
can make only one pit stop. They can't come back on with 1 to go and top
off. This is the strategy that Ryan Newman used to win earlier.
That's even more stupid than the lucky dog rule itself.(way to go Nascar)
So, everyone else on the lead lap could pit as many times as they want, but
the guy who gets his lap back can't?

Quote:
What I'm wondering though is this: why not just wait to 1 to go to make
your
pit stop to begin with. You still only make one stop, you still get the
2-3
extra miles of fuel, and you still have the same track position. What is
the point of the rule, unless it says you can make only 1 stop, and it has
to be on the first lap of yellow with the leaders?

Dan





Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old   
43fan
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: New Rule for Lucky Dog? - 10-20-2003 , 11:32 AM




"Alan J. Claffie" <aclaffie (AT) rocketmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
"draymond" <draymond (AT) insightbb (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:uOSkb.320876$mp.259096 (AT) rwcrnsc51 (DOT) ops.asp.att.net...
What I'm wondering though is this: why not just wait to 1 to go to make
your
pit stop to begin with. You still only make one stop, you still get the
2-3
extra miles of fuel, and you still have the same track position. What
is
the point of the rule, unless it says you can make only 1 stop, and it
has
to be on the first lap of yellow with the leaders?

Someone will do this next week at Atlanta, and next Monday there will be a
new rule saying that the lucky dog recipient has to pit on the same lap as
the rest of the lapped cars, and the "work in progress" will continue
until
someone finds another new way to find the unfair advantage in it, and that
will get fixed the next week, lather, rinse, repeat.

What unfair advantage? Everyone has the same opportunity as the guy last on
the lead lap. They can pit as many times as they want, whenever they
want(or could before this rule went into effect, if it did). And they know
the same thing as the guy that got his lap back knows... the worst position
he can be in is last on the lead lap. In fact, they know they'll be at
least one position better than that.

Quote:



Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old   
Ms.Goodwrench
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: New Rule for Lucky Dog? - 10-20-2003 , 11:47 AM



"WildWeasel" <wweasel_24 (AT) HooYah (DOT) com> wrote in
news:5qUkb.1829$_i.156245 (AT) nnrp1 (DOT) ptd.net:

Quote:
"draymond" wrote ...
I read that from now on the person getting the lucky dog pass under
yellow can make only one pit stop.

I'm hearing that from now on the person getting the lucky dog pass
under yellow actually needs to have a dog in the car for the rest of
the race. The dog will not be allowed to act as an in-car spotter
unless it is a spotted dog.




Will it be allowed to hang its head out the window? Except at
Darlington, of course.





Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old   
WildWeasel
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: New Rule for Lucky Dog? - 10-20-2003 , 11:53 AM




"draymond" wrote ...
Quote:
I read that from now on the person getting the lucky dog pass under yellow
can make only one pit stop.
I'm hearing that from now on the person getting the lucky dog pass under
yellow actually needs to have a dog in the car for the rest of the race.
The dog will not be allowed to act as an in-car spotter unless it is a
spotted dog.




Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old   
WildWeasel
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: New Rule for Lucky Dog? - 10-20-2003 , 12:05 PM




"Ms.Goodwrench" wrote ...
Quote:
"WildWeasel" wrote:


I'm hearing that from now on the person getting the lucky dog pass
under yellow actually needs to have a dog in the car for the rest of
the race. The dog will not be allowed to act as an in-car spotter
unless it is a spotted dog.


Will it be allowed to hang its head out the window? Except at
Darlington, of course.


AB: What's on the windshield of the 24 car?
BP: Is something leaking out of the 7 car? Could it be overheating?
WD: Benny, you big dummy, that's slobber from the lucky dog.
AB: The 24 REALLY needs to put the 7 back down a lap.




Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old   
NASCARWife
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: New Rule for Lucky Dog? - 10-20-2003 , 01:09 PM



Quote:
What I'm wondering though is this: why not just wait to 1 to go to make your
pit stop to begin with. You still only make one stop, you still get the 2-3
extra miles of fuel, and you still have the same track position. What is
the point of the rule, unless it says you can make only 1 stop, and it has
to be on the first lap of yellow with the leaders?

Dan

Once the Lucky Dog is announced they can not add fuel to the car. They could
wait and pit late in the caution and change tires but if they add fuel they
will be penalized.


Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old   
WildWeasel
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: New Rule for Lucky Dog? - 10-20-2003 , 01:35 PM




"NASCARWife" wrote ...
Quote:
What I'm wondering though is this: why not just wait to 1 to go to make
your
pit stop to begin with. You still only make one stop, you still get the
2-3
extra miles of fuel, and you still have the same track position. What is
the point of the rule, unless it says you can make only 1 stop, and it
has
to be on the first lap of yellow with the leaders?

Dan


Once the Lucky Dog is announced they can not add fuel to the car. They
could
wait and pit late in the caution and change tires but if they add fuel
they
will be penalized.
I think the LD is bad enough, but to have LDstroke2003stroke10stroke19 as
amended in Codicil 3.1.2 subsection 1 is just to freakin' much.

Can they check the battery? Pull off a tear-off? jeeez!

Throwing in a water bottle to the LD driver is approved so long as the said
bottle is not more than half full and does not contain ice.
Amendment 1. "ice" is to mean frozen water OR any other foreign cooling
substance or mechanism.
Amendment 2. (the Newman Rule) the "water bottle" may not contain fuel,
gas or any other propellant.





Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old   
43fan
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: New Rule for Lucky Dog? - 10-20-2003 , 02:49 PM




"NASCARWife" <nascarwife (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
What I'm wondering though is this: why not just wait to 1 to go to make
your
pit stop to begin with. You still only make one stop, you still get the
2-3
extra miles of fuel, and you still have the same track position. What is
the point of the rule, unless it says you can make only 1 stop, and it
has
to be on the first lap of yellow with the leaders?

Dan


Once the Lucky Dog is announced they can not add fuel to the car. They
could
wait and pit late in the caution and change tires but if they add fuel
they
will be penalized.
Like I said above, that's even more stupid than the giving of the lap back.
Everyone else on the track is allowed to add fuel to their car, but that guy
isn't? *LOL* Ok... geez....





Reply With Quote
Reply




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.