Chuck_Steak (AT) nospam (DOT) com (Chuck Steak) wrote in news:fKDem.919$Jg.272
@nwrddc01.gnilink.net:

Well, I think it would depend on how you did it. Today we have V8
engines purpose built for racing - all 4 manufacturers use blocks
designed specifically for Cup, which have nothing in common with
any production designs - so they can't be anything resembling
cheap. If you introduced a V6 that actually was derived from a
modern OHC production design, odds are it would be considerably
less expensive.

OTOH, if you give the manufacturers carte blanche to design what
they think would be best, and then go thru 6 or 8 cycles of
redesigning it to get NASCAR approval, then yeah, it'll be more
expensive.

Lower power. Jeff Gordon excepted, almost everyone thinks we'd
have better racing with maybe 600hp instead of 850hp. If you're
going to change something to reduce power, that's as good a time
as any to try and bring some stock back into it with a modern
V6 instead of reworking the V8.

Hmmm, I don't recall. I know when the Busch guys were using 305
engines there were Buicks, but I don't know about the V6. Mostly
what I remember from that period was the Chevy 4.3l V6, which was
a 350 smallblock with the end two cylinders sawn off.

John

On Aug 6, 5:21*pm, John McCoy <igop... (AT) ix (DOT) netcom.com> wrote:
IIRC, the standard GM engine when they ran sixes in BGN (or whatever
it was called then), was based on the Buick 3.6L V-6. You guys that
are complaining about the sound of 6 cylinders apparently never heard
the old in line six Jaguar engines.

In article george9219 <george9219 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:


Well..... if they had been running straight six Jag motors,
maybe I'd have a different opinion.
But they were using V6's from Detroit.
And they sounded like shit.

Chuck Steak wrote:
What year was that? And it was the Busch series only, correct?

Tim Shelton wrote:

Why?

On Aug 6, 10:50*pm, TS02_05champ <tonystewart02_05ch... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>
wrote:
Right now neither the teams nor the manufacturers have the resources
to engineer new cars. There may be some minor tweaks, but don't look
for major changes.

"John McCoy" <igopogo (AT) ix (DOT) netcom.com> wrote in message
Well, that's mostly because they decided to use a truck engine. I think if
you started with a modern passenger car V6 design, of perhaps 3l or 3.5l, it
would work well.<<<<<<<<



That's a foolish statement.
Do you think they make the truck engines out of wood ?

--
JerryD(upstateNY)

In article Tim Shelton <noemail1543 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

I've often wondered how the racing at Talladega or Daytona would be different
with a 450hp V6, or a 450hp restricted V8?

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Dan

I got a new Matco tool box for my wife.
Best trade I ever made...

In article TS02_05champ <tonystewart02_05champ (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

It was around 15 years ago (?)...
I remember my friends switching over to the V6 program,
and it was devistating to them.
It was just so wicked expensive, and the reliabilty was horrible.
They had to run a ton of compresion to get any power out of them
and rebuilds were ridiculous.
Not a problem with the smallblock Chev/Ford V8's... everyone had them.
Parts were 'cheap' so to speak.
The V6's, the stuff was outrageous PLUS high in demand.
It just sucked all around.

Then NASCAR deep sixed the pieces of shit, and all these guys
had 50 grand boat anchors that they were selling to ASA guys,
and others in the midwest for peanuts.

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Dan

I got a new Matco tool box for my wife.
Best trade I ever made...

"JerryD\(upstateNY\)" <jerryd (AT) rochester (DOT) rr.com> wrote in
news:h5gqnh$rg1$1 (AT) jerryd (DOT) eternal-september.org:

I confess, I have no clue how to interpret this sentence...

John