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Default Newman's Attitude - 01-10-2006 , 04:35 PM






Newman anticipates teaming with Busch
By Dave Rodman, NASCAR.COM
January 10, 2006

"I look forward to Kurt and the entire team," Newman said.

"We never depended on the other teams -- we depended on ourselves,"

"Hopefully we'll have all the right morals and those things
so when time passes we're still on the same page.
It's a team sport, and I've always said it's a conflict
of interest when you're helping somebody you're
competing against.
"It's a difficult situation, but in the grand scheme of
things if everything works right, if you have an
equation that works out the way Jack Roush's did last year,
nobody complains about that except NASCAR."

"It's something we'll have to work on, but in this sport,
you don't want to be dependent on anybody else
other than your own team," Newman said.

CRU:
Seems to me Ryan didn't sugarcoat anything, including morals.
He just has to feel he has a new lease on life with ridding
himself of Rusty Wallace & hope for Kurt Busch.
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Default Re: Newman's Attitude - 01-10-2006 , 06:50 PM







"Crusader" <cru32 (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote

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CRU:
Seems to me Ryan didn't sugarcoat anything, including morals.
He just has to feel he has a new lease on life with ridding
himself of Rusty Wallace & hope for Kurt Busch.
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Crusader


With the way Rusty ran the last couple of years makes you wonder
if retiring was a better option than continuing to put up with
Ryan. I'm sure Rusty still had a couple years left in him. I
rooted for Ryan when he first entered being a, close enough to,
hometown boy, but root against him more, than for, lately.
Wonder if we will ever get to the bottom of the real problems
between them.




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Default Re: Newman's Attitude - 01-10-2006 , 06:54 PM




"Crusader" wrote ...
Quote:
Newman anticipates teaming with Busch

"We never depended on the other teams -- we depended on ourselves,"

"I've always said it's a conflict
of interest when you're helping somebody you're
competing against.

nobody complains about that except NASCAR."

"It's something we'll have to work on, but in this sport,
you don't want to be dependent on anybody else
other than your own team," Newman said.

Seems to me he's Rusty Jr!




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Default Re: Newman's Attitude - 01-10-2006 , 06:57 PM




"SG" wrote ...
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"Crusader" wrote...

CRU:
Seems to me Ryan didn't sugarcoat anything, including morals.
He just has to feel he has a new lease on life with ridding
himself of Rusty Wallace & hope for Kurt Busch.
--
Crusader



With the way Rusty ran the last couple of years makes you wonder
if retiring was a better option than continuing to put up with
Ryan. I'm sure Rusty still had a couple years left in him. I
rooted for Ryan when he first entered being a, close enough to,
hometown boy, but root against him more, than for, lately.
Wonder if we will ever get to the bottom of the real problems
between them.

I don't think "teaming" with Rusty was any walk in the park for Ryan. Seems
Roger is hiring a bunch of Roger Jrs. Don ain't no sweetheart either.




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Default Re: Newman's Attitude - 01-10-2006 , 07:51 PM



On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:35:15 -0500, "Crusader" <cru32 (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote:

Quote:
Newman anticipates teaming with Busch
By Dave Rodman, NASCAR.COM
January 10, 2006

"I look forward to Kurt and the entire team," Newman said.

"We never depended on the other teams -- we depended on ourselves,"

"Hopefully we'll have all the right morals and those things
so when time passes we're still on the same page.

I like Ryan. He is an unassuming straight shooter. Now all he has to do is
learn that the race is tomorrow and today is qualifying. :-)


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Default Re: Newman's Attitude - 01-10-2006 , 08:22 PM



On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 17:50:13 -0600, "SG" <spaamtrapper (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

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"Crusader" <cru32 (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:42inimF1j3p6hU1 (AT) individual (DOT) net...

CRU:
Seems to me Ryan didn't sugarcoat anything, including morals.
He just has to feel he has a new lease on life with ridding
himself of Rusty Wallace & hope for Kurt Busch.
--
Crusader

With the way Rusty ran the last couple of years makes you wonder
if retiring was a better option than continuing to put up with
Ryan. I'm sure Rusty still had a couple years left in him. I
rooted for Ryan when he first entered being a, close enough to,
hometown boy, but root against him more, than for, lately.
Wonder if we will ever get to the bottom of the real problems
between them.
Two very strong personalities clashing?


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Default Re: Newman's Attitude - 01-10-2006 , 08:22 PM



On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 18:54:22 -0500, "WildWeasel" <wweasel_24 (AT) HooYah (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
"Crusader" wrote ...

"I've [Ryan Newman] always said it's a conflict
of interest when you're helping somebody you're
competing against.

Seems to me he's Rusty Jr!

Maybe so but he is absolutely right. A team has a sponsor or sponsors to look
out for. A driver has his own fame to look out for, not to mention the prize
money. Both drivers may work for the same owner so he wins either way but a
driver isn't only driving for the owner. I don't recall Kyle giving Kurt an
inch when they were neck and neck just because he is the "little brother."

If I were your sponsor I wouldn't be too happy if I found out you were helping
another driver to win. I want my car crossing the S/F line first, not the guy
you helped.

In this case, in my opinion, Rusty's me, me, me, is right, right, right. In any
competition you never give the other guy the edge.

When you and your best friends are playing friendly [low stakes] poker do you do
or say anything that will help them beat you? Probably not. So why then should
you do it in your job?

Can you tell I have strong feelings about this? :-)


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Default Re: Newman's Attitude - 01-10-2006 , 09:14 PM



On 2006-01-10 20:22:43 -0500, Paul <ME (AT) MYISP (DOT) COM> said:

Quote:
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 17:50:13 -0600, "SG" <spaamtrapper (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

"Crusader" <cru32 (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:42inimF1j3p6hU1 (AT) individual (DOT) net...

CRU:
Seems to me Ryan didn't sugarcoat anything, including morals.
He just has to feel he has a new lease on life with ridding
himself of Rusty Wallace & hope for Kurt Busch.
--
Crusader

With the way Rusty ran the last couple of years makes you wonder
if retiring was a better option than continuing to put up with
Ryan. I'm sure Rusty still had a couple years left in him. I
rooted for Ryan when he first entered being a, close enough to,
hometown boy, but root against him more, than for, lately.
Wonder if we will ever get to the bottom of the real problems
between them.

Two very strong personalities clashing?
Yep.... but that could very well become the case again with Kurt Busch
becoming the new teammate / sparring partner.

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$1 to Dave from "JTR"

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Default Re: Newman's Attitude - 01-10-2006 , 09:44 PM



On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:14:22 -0500, Julia <nospam (AT) home (DOT) com> wrote:

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On 2006-01-10 20:22:43 -0500, Paul <ME (AT) MYISP (DOT) COM> said:

On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 17:50:13 -0600, "SG" <spaamtrapper (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

With the way Rusty ran the last couple of years makes you wonder
if retiring was a better option than continuing to put up with
Ryan. I'm sure Rusty still had a couple years left in him. I
rooted for Ryan when he first entered being a, close enough to,
hometown boy, but root against him more, than for, lately.
Wonder if we will ever get to the bottom of the real problems
between them.

Two very strong personalities clashing?

Yep.... but that could very well become the case again with Kurt Busch
becoming the new teammate / sparring partner.
Oh yes. I can see that happening as well.

I picture Ryan like this:

Look kid, I have my team and you have your team, go figure it out for yourself.
Got a charity you need help with? Give me a call. Otherwise, who are you?


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Default Re: Newman's Attitude - 01-10-2006 , 09:52 PM




"Paul" <ME (AT) MYISP (DOT) COM> wrote

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On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 18:54:22 -0500, "WildWeasel" <wweasel_24 (AT) HooYah (DOT) com
wrote:

"Crusader" wrote ...

"I've [Ryan Newman] always said it's a conflict
of interest when you're helping somebody you're
competing against.

Seems to me he's Rusty Jr!


Maybe so but he is absolutely right. A team has a sponsor or sponsors to
look
out for. A driver has his own fame to look out for, not to mention the
prize
money. Both drivers may work for the same owner so he wins either way but
a
driver isn't only driving for the owner. I don't recall Kyle giving Kurt
an
inch when they were neck and neck just because he is the "little brother."

If I were your sponsor I wouldn't be too happy if I found out you were
helping
another driver to win. I want my car crossing the S/F line first, not the
guy
you helped.

In this case, in my opinion, Rusty's me, me, me, is right, right, right.
In any
competition you never give the other guy the edge.

When you and your best friends are playing friendly [low stakes] poker do
you do
or say anything that will help them beat you? Probably not. So why then
should
you do it in your job?

Can you tell I have strong feelings about this? :-)
The purpose of multi-car teams helping each other is that there is supposed
to be information shared to and from all teams, therefore improving all the
sharing teams, who then can race amongst themselves for the win.

But no one said you had to tell your teammates EVERYTHING...




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