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"Mike Marlow" wrote. In 1998, I purchased a new Subaru Forester. At the time, I was in outside sales, and racked up 249,000 miles on the car by 2006. At that time, I purchased a new Toyota, and gave the Subie to my daughter. It now has 278,000 miles on it, and I fully expect it to go 300,000. ------------------------------------- Likewise, our 1995 Honda Civic is very near to 300k, and runs fine. They offered us nothing for it as a trade-in due to mileage, but it's never had any major work of any kind and has never failed us. Brakes, tires, timing belt every 75k... and a couple sensors along the way. My first wife bought a Datsun B210 right before we married in '79, and it was still running at over 300k when I lost track of it. Same deal, only routine maintenance and regular oil and filter changes. My 1980 Datsun 280ZX was still running great with 250k miles, when I finally got tired of waiting for it to break down, and put a small block in it. Those are all good experiences but they are not unique. Just about every manufacturer can lay claim to those same performance stories. I've had many GM products that went over 250,000 miles. When I got rid of them, I donated them to charity and would later see the car(s) in daily use in the area. Don't know, because I never inquired, but I'd be pretty certain some of these clocked 300K. My cars always ran great when I got rid of them, were in good to excellent condition body-wise, and never required major work to keep them going. You are correct in that they are not unique.. that's why I posted. It was unusual tho, for American cars of the late 70's/early 80's to achieve that kind of mileage. |
Japanese cars of that era to perform that well.
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"83LowRider" <nohopenoch (AT) nge (DOT) com> wrote in message news:hak9rn$jk6$1 (AT) news (DOT) eternal-september.org... "Mike Marlow" wrote. In 1998, I purchased a new Subaru Forester. At the time, I was in outside sales, and racked up 249,000 miles on the car by 2006. At that time, I purchased a new Toyota, and gave the Subie to my daughter. It now has 278,000 miles on it, and I fully expect it to go 300,000. ------------------------------------- Likewise, our 1995 Honda Civic is very near to 300k, and runs fine. They offered us nothing for it as a trade-in due to mileage, but it's never had any major work of any kind and has never failed us. Brakes, tires, timing belt every 75k... and a couple sensors along the way. My first wife bought a Datsun B210 right before we married in '79, and it was still running at over 300k when I lost track of it. Same deal, only routine maintenance and regular oil and filter changes. My 1980 Datsun 280ZX was still running great with 250k miles, when I finally got tired of waiting for it to break down, and put a small block in it. Those are all good experiences but they are not unique. Just about every manufacturer can lay claim to those same performance stories. I've had many GM products that went over 250,000 miles. When I got rid of them, I donated them to charity and would later see the car(s) in daily use in the area. Don't know, because I never inquired, but I'd be pretty certain some of these clocked 300K. My cars always ran great when I got rid of them, were in good to excellent condition body-wise, and never required major work to keep them going. You are correct in that they are not unique.. that's why I posted. It was unusual tho, for American cars of the late 70's/early 80's to achieve that kind of mileage. That's true - but it was equally (or perhaps even more...) unlikely for Japanese cars of that era to perform that well. |
running well when sold. And, I drove the shit out of both of those cars.
Hell, that '83 Celica was the first car that I ever owned that had a 6
figure odometer.
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Mike Marlow wrote: "83LowRider" <nohopenoch (AT) nge (DOT) com> wrote in message news:hak9rn$jk6$1 (AT) news (DOT) eternal-september.org... "Mike Marlow" wrote. In 1998, I purchased a new Subaru Forester. At the time, I was in outside sales, and racked up 249,000 miles on the car by 2006. At that time, I purchased a new Toyota, and gave the Subie to my daughter. It now has 278,000 miles on it, and I fully expect it to go 300,000. ------------------------------------- Likewise, our 1995 Honda Civic is very near to 300k, and runs fine. They offered us nothing for it as a trade-in due to mileage, but it's never had any major work of any kind and has never failed us. Brakes, tires, timing belt every 75k... and a couple sensors along the way. My first wife bought a Datsun B210 right before we married in '79, and it was still running at over 300k when I lost track of it. Same deal, only routine maintenance and regular oil and filter changes. My 1980 Datsun 280ZX was still running great with 250k miles, when I finally got tired of waiting for it to break down, and put a small block in it. Those are all good experiences but they are not unique. Just about every manufacturer can lay claim to those same performance stories. I've had many GM products that went over 250,000 miles. When I got rid of them, I donated them to charity and would later see the car(s) in daily use in the area. Don't know, because I never inquired, but I'd be pretty certain some of these clocked 300K. My cars always ran great when I got rid of them, were in good to excellent condition body-wise, and never required major work to keep them going. You are correct in that they are not unique.. that's why I posted. It was unusual tho, for American cars of the late 70's/early 80's to achieve that kind of mileage. That's true - but it was equally (or perhaps even more...) unlikely for Japanese cars of that era to perform that well. What? I put 200K on a '78 Celica, and 250K on a '83 Celica. Both were running well when sold. And, I drove the shit out of both of those cars. Hell, that '83 Celica was the first car that I ever owned that had a 6 figure odometer. |
American cars are catching up in the quality and durability measures but a
whole lot of damage has already been done.
Twenty years ago nobody under the age of thirty bought an American car. Ten
years ago nobody under the age of forty bought an American car. And today
almost nobody wants to buy an American car. Either they think foreign
nameplate cars are that much better or they are mad at the Feds or mad at
the UAW or some other reason.
Trucks and vans and big SUV's are a different story. The domestic
automakers still make a good light truck.
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Mike Marlow wrote: "83LowRider" <nohopenoch (AT) nge (DOT) com> wrote in message news:hak9rn$jk6$1 (AT) news (DOT) eternal-september.org... "Mike Marlow" wrote. In 1998, I purchased a new Subaru Forester. At the time, I was in outside sales, and racked up 249,000 miles on the car by 2006. At that time, I purchased a new Toyota, and gave the Subie to my daughter. It now has 278,000 miles on it, and I fully expect it to go 300,000. ------------------------------------- Likewise, our 1995 Honda Civic is very near to 300k, and runs fine. They offered us nothing for it as a trade-in due to mileage, but it's never had any major work of any kind and has never failed us. Brakes, tires, timing belt every 75k... and a couple sensors along the way. My first wife bought a Datsun B210 right before we married in '79, and it was still running at over 300k when I lost track of it. Same deal, only routine maintenance and regular oil and filter changes. My 1980 Datsun 280ZX was still running great with 250k miles, when I finally got tired of waiting for it to break down, and put a small block in it. Those are all good experiences but they are not unique. Just about every manufacturer can lay claim to those same performance stories. I've had many GM products that went over 250,000 miles. When I got rid of them, I donated them to charity and would later see the car(s) in daily use in the area. Don't know, because I never inquired, but I'd be pretty certain some of these clocked 300K. My cars always ran great when I got rid of them, were in good to excellent condition body-wise, and never required major work to keep them going. You are correct in that they are not unique.. that's why I posted. It was unusual tho, for American cars of the late 70's/early 80's to achieve that kind of mileage. That's true - but it was equally (or perhaps even more...) unlikely for Japanese cars of that era to perform that well. What? I put 200K on a '78 Celica, and 250K on a '83 Celica. Both were running well when sold. And, I drove the shit out of both of those cars. Hell, that '83 Celica was the first car that I ever owned that had a 6 figure odometer. |
then. It was quite exceptional for your Celicas to run that long. I think
the Celica was a great car, from the very day of its introduction, and it
might even lead the pack in quality, so it may stand out compared to other
models. That said, it remained an unusual event for the Japanese cars of
that era to hold together that long.
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