Rainout BS

#11

"TS02_05champ" <tonystewart02_05champ (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

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This is an EVENT, not a product.

While the debate in this thread is a no_win argument, ...................
these NASCAR 'events" are most definitely a consumer 'product' - practically
speaking (perhaps not technically speaking).

NASCAR seems to be constantly looking for ways to keep speeds down
................. so just put rain tires (or intermediates) on, and race in
the rain. They have done it for decades in open wheel, open cockpit cars
simply by changing tires. NASCAR's racing machines have windshields and
covered cockpits, so the excuse for not running in the rain is all wet.

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#12

Rod's SHAW wrote:

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"TS02_05champ" <tonystewart02_05champ (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
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This is an EVENT, not a product.

While the debate in this thread is a no_win argument, ...................
these NASCAR 'events" are most definitely a consumer 'product' - practically
speaking (perhaps not technically speaking).

NASCAR seems to be constantly looking for ways to keep speeds down
................ so just put rain tires (or intermediates) on, and race in
the rain. They have done it for decades in open wheel, open cockpit cars
simply by changing tires. NASCAR's racing machines have windshields and
covered cockpits, so the excuse for not running in the rain is all wet.

The IRL races on ovals in the rain?

#13

"TS02_05champ" <tonystewart02_05champ (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

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The IRL races on ovals in the rain?

Ovals are a different story ................... and Pocono doesn't really
qualify as an oval. Drying an oval is a doable task .............. drying
Pocono (or any other road/street track) before the sun sets is futile. On
these big spacious tracks, ... just put rain gear on and run.

#14

Rod's SHAW wrote:

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"TS02_05champ" <tonystewart02_05champ (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
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The IRL races on ovals in the rain?

Ovals are a different story ................... and Pocono doesn't really
qualify as an oval. Drying an oval is a doable task .............. drying
Pocono (or any other road/street track) before the sun sets is futile. On
these big spacious tracks, ... just put rain gear on and run.

The goddamn thing already takes FOUR hours to run, are you looking for
an endurance race at Pocono? The NW race that was run in the ran last yr
sucked, btw.

#15

"smartguy" <midtownbail (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

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Just another example of NASCAR screwing the fans. NASCAR could have
run the race up until the halfway point and then called the race.

Yeah - that would have been so much better for the fans. Idiots like you
can't be satisfied. You bitch if it gets rained out and you bitch if they
call a race.

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All
NASCAR tracks should have lights.

And then listen to you bitch about the cost of tickets. Get used to it -
races get rained out.

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Running a race on Monday does not
cut it, many fans will not get to see the race, and they lose the
ticket money. Races that are cancelled should be run on another
weekend date..

Oh - and those same fans will be able to make the trip out on another
weekend?

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NASCAR should otherwise offer a full refund of fan ticket price and
give the fan a free t-shirt.

Or, you should find another sport to follow so we don't have to listen to
your whining.

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#16

"Tim Shelton" <noemail1543 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

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It is bullshit that NASCAR cannot get a race in on the scheduled race
day, now fans have to go home and eat a ticket price.

You consistently prove yourself to be a complete idiot. Please explain how
NASCAR is in any way responsible for the weather. It's part of the sport.
Suck it up and live with it.

Why the hell are you even bitching? You weren't there - you didn't lose any
money. You're just up to your same old crap of pissing in the wind over
every little thing.

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That is just
pure bullshit.

No - your posts are.

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NASCAR should reschedule and make sure fans get into
the race without problem.

You are getting increasingly stupid by the moment.

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NASCAR makes out big on days like this
because they know not many fans will show up, and there is no TV
coverage on top of that.

Yeah - by your logic - no TV coverage, so no contract money. That sure is
making out big. What a freakin' idiot you are. Are you sure your name
isn't alan jones? If not, you're sure giving him a run for his money for
the title of village idiot.

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#17

"Chad" <cbstun (AT) safemail (DOT) com> wrote

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"Tim Shelton" <noemail1543 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 20:20:19 -0400, TS02_05champ
tonystewart02_05champ (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

smartguy wrote:
Just another example of NASCAR screwing the fans. NASCAR could have
run the race up until the halfway point and then called the race. All
NASCAR tracks should have lights. Running a race on Monday does not
cut it, many fans will not get to see the race, and they lose the
ticket money. Races that are cancelled should be run on another
weekend date..

NASCAR should otherwise offer a full refund of fan ticket price and
give the fan a free t-shirt.

Yeah, and then people would be bitching that they only ran to halfway
and should have waited until tomorrow. Doesn't matter WHAT Nascar did,
people are going to complain.

It is bullshit that NASCAR cannot get a race in on the scheduled race
day, now fans have to go home and eat a ticket price. That is just
pure bullshit. NASCAR should reschedule and make sure fans get into
the race without problem. NASCAR makes out big on days like this
because they know not many fans will show up, and there is no TV
coverage on top of that.

NASCAR could give people who hand their tickets back in a voucher for a
50% discount to any other race they choose, so the tracks still get their
money and the fans get some incentive to come back, instead of just a
disappointing experience.

Grow up you whiners. Sometimes life rains on your little parades. For
christ's sake, you guys can whine and complain and come up with all kinds of
ideas what should be... Just freakin' get over it - it's rain.

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#18

"Chad" <cbstun (AT) safemail (DOT) com> wrote

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I don't think there should be any refund. If you can't make it on Monday,
then you lose. That is the risk you take.

That risk might prevent some people from buying tickets. Giving them some
sort of option, like a discount for a future race ticket, might end up
being more profitable than the current situation for some tracks.

That "risk" hasn't prevented any such issue so why should you raise that as
a "concern" now? I think you need to spend some time understanding what
tracks do really offer ticket holders Chad, and what the acceptance of that
has been over the years. You're coming up with ideas to solve a problem
that does not exist beyond the minds of a handful of not-so-bright posters
here.

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#19

"Zacharie McClain" <zdmcclain (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote

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Tim Shelton wrote:
On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 20:20:19 -0400, TS02_05champ
tonystewart02_05champ (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

smartguy wrote:
Just another example of NASCAR screwing the fans. NASCAR could have
run the race up until the halfway point and then called the race. All
NASCAR tracks should have lights. Running a race on Monday does not
cut it, many fans will not get to see the race, and they lose the
ticket money. Races that are cancelled should be run on another
weekend date..

NASCAR should otherwise offer a full refund of fan ticket price and
give the fan a free t-shirt.
Yeah, and then people would be bitching that they only ran to halfway
and should have waited until tomorrow. Doesn't matter WHAT Nascar did,
people are going to complain.

It is bullshit that NASCAR cannot get a race in on the scheduled race
day, now fans have to go home and eat a ticket price. That is just
pure bullshit. NASCAR should reschedule and make sure fans get into
the race without problem. NASCAR makes out big on days like this
because they know not many fans will show up, and there is no TV
coverage on top of that.
They're showing it on TV on ESPN as far as I could tell from the broadcast
today. Or am I missing something?

yes, the fact that therace they showed was last weeks race from Indy.

#20

IGot2P wrote:

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TS02_05champ wrote:
should also get a refund?

Do you think a prostitute is gonna give you a refund if you didn't
like the blowjob that she gave you?

No, I would just have her do it again until she got it right. :-)

And she would do it with a razor blade in her mouth. OUCH!