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RCR wheel mods
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Re: RCR wheel mods -
09-21-2006
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"RobZip" <no time (AT) me (DOT) net> wrote in message news:VZuQg.8$pq4.4 (AT) tornado (DOT) ohiordc.rr.com... "John McCoy" <igopogo (AT) ix (DOT) netcom.com> wrote in message news:Xns9844BF4C7A230pogosupernews (AT) 216 (DOT) 168.3.30... we'd still have to figure out how to make it do it's thing differently for each of the 4 wheels, If I'm reading the intent of such a scenario correctly, perhaps it would only be one tire - most likely right front - that would require any sort of manipulation. This would simplify the guessing game immensely. Can we remember any particuarly remarkable instances of RCR having right front tire problems at short tracks in the last year or so? Perhaps while developing something? -Russ. Years past Dave Marcus would drive an R&D car for RCR. Does RCR still have a team driving R&D? |
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On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 09:18:59 -0400, "Somebody." somebody (AT) nospam (DOT) russdoucet.com> wrote: "RobZip" <no time (AT) me (DOT) net> wrote in message news:VZuQg.8$pq4.4 (AT) tornado (DOT) ohiordc.rr.com... "John McCoy" <igopogo (AT) ix (DOT) netcom.com> wrote in message news:Xns9844BF4C7A230pogosupernews (AT) 216 (DOT) 168.3.30... we'd still have to figure out how to make it do it's thing differently for each of the 4 wheels, If I'm reading the intent of such a scenario correctly, perhaps it would only be one tire - most likely right front - that would require any sort of manipulation. This would simplify the guessing game immensely. Can we remember any particuarly remarkable instances of RCR having right front tire problems at short tracks in the last year or so? Perhaps while developing something? -Russ. Years past Dave Marcus would drive an R&D car for RCR. Does RCR still have a team driving R&D? |
-Russ.
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"Carey Akin" <cmakin (AT) att (DOT) net> wrote in message news:yskQg.191682$5i3.42345 (AT) bgtnsc04-news (DOT) ops.worldnet.att.net... "John McCoy" <igopogo (AT) ix (DOT) netcom.com> wrote in message news:Xns9844C0925A55Dpogosupernews (AT) 216 (DOT) 168.3.30... You're not accounting, here, for the difference in the forces exerted on a racing tire versus a street tire. A street tire might seal up against the rim after it's leaked down a bit, and stay pretty tight. A racing tire will unseal every time the car goes into the corner and side-loads the tire. Plus, as I mentioned to Russ, you've still got the problem of making all 4 corners leak in the proper proportion to what each needs for good traction. Exactly. It goes right back to control. Carey in Manvel Tires are laid out and labelled prior to race time, for which corner they are to be mounted on -- in fact, they try to match up batch lots and put them on together from what they are given by goodyear -- during the extensive preparation that is done on them. Could even be only 1 or 2 tires actually need this "adjustment" to improve handling, rather than all 4. -Russ. |
track each week. Do they really have time, and the room to hide a laser
cutter in the hauler, and can get such precise work done without being seen
by at least *someone* outside of their team in the garage?
If they brought their own wheels and tires each week, and had this bleeding
edge technology actually available to them, I may could then argue against
the possibility less. I just can't see any of it happening and regard the
entire "story" as some obviously decent fiction given the people that have
bought into the possibility.
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But Russ, they don't get said wheels and tires until they arrive at the track each week. Do they really have time, and the room to hide a laser cutter in the hauler, and can get such precise work done without being seen by at least *someone* outside of their team in the garage? |
done, but the teams used to put their used tires and wheels along the pit
road after the race. There was a tractor/trailer rig that would go along and
pick all of them up, take them somewhere for dismounting, and deliver each
teams wheels back to their shops during the week. If the wheels were being
fudged, you'd possibly raise an eyebrow or two for wanting to hold out a
small handful of them to deal with yourself. Could you imagine if another
team got back one of your modified wheels by mistake?
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"SimDriver" <NR2003.is.the (AT) best (DOT) sim.net> wrote in message news:e5lQg.4090$UG4.1586 (AT) newsread2 (DOT) news.pas.earthlink.net... "RobZip" <no time (AT) me (DOT) net> wrote in message news:2tjQg.8329$8e5.1182 (AT) tornado (DOT) ohiordc.rr.com... "zenit" <zenit (AT) semo (DOT) oz> wrote in message news:b2a3h2lndl7svt1fkl43d7ps7p1qsgij82 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... I don't think Smokey ever considered cold fusion as a fuel... But there was that one time when he got nailed for an illegal gas source... After they pulled his tank and found it to be legal, Smokey hopped in his car and drove off, leaving the tank in the hands of the NASCAR official... That may be just one of those pit myths but who knows... Not a pit myth. 'Don't recall the exact details, but he had a considerable amount of 1 inch line run throughout the car giving a few extra gallons of capacity. I heard he had used his roll cage as a fuel cell. That was part of it - supposedly had tubing running through the cage. |
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"John McCoy" <igopogo (AT) ix (DOT) netcom.com> wrote in message news:Xns9844BF4C7A230pogosupernews (AT) 216 (DOT) 168.3.30... we'd still have to figure out how to make it do it's thing differently for each of the 4 wheels, If I'm reading the intent of such a scenario correctly, perhaps it would only be one tire - most likely right front - that would require any sort of manipulation. This would simplify the guessing game immensely. |
tire, and not end up with an evil handling car.
Even if you could, there's the problem of getting the correct
wheel modified. The way it normally works is the team gives
Goodyear the wheels to mount tires on, they don't do it
themselves. And since all the wheels are susposed to be the
same, I think Goodyear would be a little suspicious if RCR
came in and said "hey, see these wheels with the red tape on
them? Make sure those get right-side tires please".
John
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Another point on keeping this quiet... I don't know if it's still being done, but the teams used to put their used tires and wheels along the pit road after the race. |
tire has an RFID chip in it, and Goodyear does track every tire by
it's RFID to ensure they take all of them back from the track.
John
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