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Re: Jimmie Johnson killed NASCAR
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Re: Jimmie Johnson killed NASCAR -
10-19-2009
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In article Nancy2 <nancy-doo... (AT) uiowa (DOT) edu> wrote: It may look like this this year, but in years past, in both N'wide and Truck, there have been plenty of close battles right up to the last race (without any stupid "Chase"). *And I'm sure there will be again. N. Like in 2007 where going into the last race 2nd place Reutimann was only 571 points behind Or 2006 where Carl Edwards was only 844 points behind leader Kevin Harvick. and Boyer *was in third a mere 940 points back. Or 2004 where Kyle Busch trailed by only 230 with one to go. And Biffle was only 605 back in third. 2008 was closer, in all fairness. With one to go Boyer was only 56 in front of Carl Edwards, but 353 ahead of third place Jason Leffler. I know you don't care for the chase, Nance, but let's not say there were 'plenty' of good title races 'without' the chase. |
going into the last race was less than 20 points or something like
that. Mayhap I made it up. ;-) How about the year that Martin lost
in Cup, by 2 points?
N.
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I thought there was a truck race or two where the points difference going into the last race was less than 20 points or something like that. |
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Mayhap I made it up. ;-) How about the year that Martin lost in Cup, by 2 points? N. |
How about 2004, Kurt won it by 8, after nearly hitting the
wall with a wheel issue? (the first chase).
But then Alan Kulwicki won it by 10 over Eliott in 1992.
We can find examples to illustrate either position,
however, the chances are much much greater that there
will be a closer battle WITH the chase.
Past championship races bear that out.
Since the chase started, each title could have been won
by as many as 5 guys, going in to the last race.
In the 20 years prior to that, that scenario never occured,
In fact, only half of them was it close to possible for the
second place driver to win.
7 times the winner won by over 200 points, meaning it was a lock
way before the end. 4 times it was over 350.
The highest was 489
Since the chase they have been won by
8, 35, 56, 69, 77.
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I thought there was a truck race or two where the points difference going into the last race was less than 20 points or something like that. Mayhap I made it up. ;-) How about the year that Martin lost in Cup, by 2 points? |
In '07 Hornaday beat Skinner by 54 points. Skinner had a 29 point lead
going into the last race. I can't recall exactly what it was (I think a
rear wheel fell off and rounded the lug nuts) but Skinner had mechanical
problems that probably cost him the championship.
Last yr, Benson won by 7 points over Hornaday. Benson had a 3 point lead
going into the last race.
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I don't mind it. |
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I don't mind seeing the last half dozen races mean something. Especially the last one. |
only thing that **might** make the last races 'mean something'...b'leeve
JJ's got 'em covered.
Again.
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Tom in Bristol
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The fact that the remaining races this year include M'ville and 'dega is the only thing that **might** make the last races 'mean something'...b'leeve JJ's got 'em covered. |
Long vacation?
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In article Nancy2 <nancy-dooley (AT) uiowa (DOT) edu> wrote: I thought there was a truck race or two where the points difference going into the last race was less than 20 points or something like that. I'm sure there was. Mayhap I made it up. ;-) How about the year that Martin lost in Cup, by 2 points? N. (I think it was 26.. in 1990) How about 2004, Kurt won it by 8, after nearly hitting the wall with a wheel issue? (the first chase). But then Alan Kulwicki won it by 10 over Eliott in 1992. We can find examples to illustrate either position, however, the chances are much much greater that there will be a closer battle WITH the chase. Past championship races bear that out. Since the chase started, each title could have been won by as many as 5 guys, going in to the last race. In the 20 years prior to that, that scenario never occured, In fact, only half of them was it close to possible for the second place driver to win. 7 times the winner won by over 200 points, meaning it was a lock way before the end. 4 times it was over 350. The highest was 489 Since the chase they have been won by 8, 35, 56, 69, 77. |
"Manufactured Drama"...... Isn't it great?
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"Chuck Steak" <Chuck_Steak (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message We can find examples to illustrate either position, however, the chances are much much greater that there will be a closer battle WITH the chase. Past championship races bear that out. Since the chase started, each title could have been won by as many as 5 guys, going in to the last race. In the 20 years prior to that, that scenario never occured, In fact, only half of them was it close to possible for the second place driver to win. 7 times the winner won by over 200 points, meaning it was a lock way before the end. 4 times it was over 350. The highest was 489 Since the chase they have been won by 8, 35, 56, 69, 77. "Manufactured Drama"...... Isn't it great? |
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"Chuck Steak" <Chuck_Steak (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message news:hbip6l$qrj$1 (AT) aioe (DOT) org... In article Nancy2 <nancy-dooley (AT) uiowa (DOT) edu> wrote: I thought there was a truck race or two where the points difference going into the last race was less than 20 points or something like that. I'm sure there was. Mayhap I made it up. ;-) How about the year that Martin lost in Cup, by 2 points? N. (I think it was 26.. in 1990) How about 2004, Kurt won it by 8, after nearly hitting the wall with a wheel issue? (the first chase). But then Alan Kulwicki won it by 10 over Eliott in 1992. We can find examples to illustrate either position, however, the chances are much much greater that there will be a closer battle WITH the chase. Past championship races bear that out. Since the chase started, each title could have been won by as many as 5 guys, going in to the last race. In the 20 years prior to that, that scenario never occured, In fact, only half of them was it close to possible for the second place driver to win. 7 times the winner won by over 200 points, meaning it was a lock way before the end. 4 times it was over 350. The highest was 489 Since the chase they have been won by 8, 35, 56, 69, 77. "Manufactured Drama"...... Isn't it great? |
What is that makes folks like you so opposed to "The Chase" ?? ..... me
thinks it may have something to do with the age old, inherent human problem
of not being able to cope/deal with change. Not to worry .......... you're
not suffering alone - there a literally millions afflicted.
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In article "Mike/Speeed" <SpeedracerREMOVE24 (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote: "Chuck Steak" <Chuck_Steak (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message We can find examples to illustrate either position, however, the chances are much much greater that there will be a closer battle WITH the chase. Past championship races bear that out. Since the chase started, each title could have been won by as many as 5 guys, going in to the last race. In the 20 years prior to that, that scenario never occured, In fact, only half of them was it close to possible for the second place driver to win. 7 times the winner won by over 200 points, meaning it was a lock way before the end. 4 times it was over 350. The highest was 489 Since the chase they have been won by 8, 35, 56, 69, 77. "Manufactured Drama"...... Isn't it great? whatever. |
I would have expected better...
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"Chuck Steak" <Chuck_Steak (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message We can find examples to illustrate either position, however, the chances are much much greater that there will be a closer battle WITH the chase. Past championship races bear that out. Since the chase started, each title could have been won by as many as 5 guys, going in to the last race. In the 20 years prior to that, that scenario never occured, In fact, only half of them was it close to possible for the second place driver to win. 7 times the winner won by over 200 points, meaning it was a lock way before the end. 4 times it was over 350. The highest was 489 Since the chase they have been won by 8, 35, 56, 69, 77. "Manufactured Drama"...... Isn't it great? whatever. I would have expected better... |
I spent 20 minutes doing research for my post,
you give me a 2 word response, and expected "better"??
Sorry.
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