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Default Re: Kyle Busch in Chase - YES! - 09-13-2009 , 12:05 AM






twisted wrote:
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On Sep 12, 5:53 pm, Tim Shelton <noemail1... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
Driver with the most wins SHOULD be in the chase, no questions asked,
PERIOD. Kyle Busch deserves a spot in the chase.

If he deserves to be in, then he would be in! It's that simple. It's
"Consistency", not "I ran good sometimes so I should be in."
Correct!

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Default Re: Kyle Busch in Chase - YES! - 09-13-2009 , 11:21 AM






Tim Shelton wrote:
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On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 19:10:04 -0500, SG <spaamtrapper (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Tim Shelton wrote:
Driver with the most wins SHOULD be in the chase, no questions
asked, PERIOD. Kyle Busch deserves a spot in the chase.


well, Tony shouldn't have a 300 point lead stripped away either, it
is what it is

Most number of wins in season should carry some weight. The point is,
the current system NASCAR uses is not a correct method. I suggest
NASCAR use a complicated and bogus formula for scoring like the BCS
system used by the NCAA, now that should work.
Winners of over 30% of this year's races haven't made the chase. (5 drivers,
9 races)

But it's a good thing really, as it's only happening because so many teams
are competitive.

With Petty/Yates and MWR probably running even stronger, I wouldn't be
surprised to see even more than 5 race winners missing out next year.

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Default Re: Kyle Busch in Chase - YES! - 09-14-2009 , 01:48 AM



On Sep 13, 5:58�pm, Tim Shelton <noemail1... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 01:21:43 +1000, "Chad" <cbs... (AT) safemail (DOT) com
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Tim Shelton wrote:
On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 19:10:04 -0500, SG <spaamtrap... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Tim Shelton wrote:
Driver with the most wins SHOULD be in the chase, no questions
asked, PERIOD. �Kyle Busch deserves a spot in the chase.

well, Tony shouldn't have a 300 point lead stripped away either, it
is what it is

Most number of wins in season should carry some weight. �The point is,
the current system NASCAR uses is not a correct method. �I suggest
NASCAR use a complicated and bogus formula for scoring like the BCS
system used by the NCAA, now that should work.

Winners of over 30% of this year's races haven't made the chase. (5 drivers,
9 races)

But it's a good thing really, as it's only happening because so many teams
are competitive.

With Petty/Yates and MWR probably running even stronger, I wouldn't be
surprised to see even more than 5 race winners missing out next year.

But when it is all said and done at the end of the year, is the NASCAR
champion really the best driver or the true champion. �I don't think
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After All Is said and Done ..
Ain't Nuthin more to do or Say ...
Dayrl Dawkins former NBA Star said it after a bitter double
overtime loss.

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Default Re: Kyle Busch in Chase - YES! - 09-14-2009 , 07:23 AM



"Tim Shelton" <noemail1543 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote


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But when it is all said and done at the end of the year, is the NASCAR
champion really the best driver or the true champion. I don't think
so.
It's hard to see a guy win races and not get into the Chase, but the bottom
line is that the drivers that got in beat him for more weeks of the season,
than the number of times he beat them.

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Default Re: Kyle Busch in Chase - YES! - 09-14-2009 , 09:02 AM



In article Tim Shelton <noemail1543 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

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....... at the end of the year, is the NASCAR
champion really the best driver or the true champion. I don't think
so.
Is the winner of the Super Bowl always the best team?
Is the winner of the World Series always the best team?

In each person's own mind, they know who "their" champion is,
and that may or may not be the champion in the respective sport...

While I would not be quick to crown Kyle "champion",
I know that he had a better season than a lot of the guys in
the chase.
So I know, where "I" rank him, and it doesn't matter where
others, or NASCAR rank him.

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Default Re: Kyle Busch in Chase - YES! - 09-14-2009 , 03:49 PM



"Chuck Steak" <Chuck_Steak (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote

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In article Tim Shelton <noemail1543 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
....... at the end of the year, is the NASCAR
champion really the best driver or the true champion. I don't think so.

Is the winner of the Super Bowl always the best team?
Is the winner of the World Series always the best team?

In each person's own mind, they know who "their" champion is,
and that may or may not be the champion in the respective sport...

While I would not be quick to crown Kyle "champion",
I know that he had a better season than a lot of the guys in the chase.
So I know, where "I" rank him, and it doesn't matter where
others, or NASCAR rank him.

It ONLY matters where NASCAR 'ranked' him--13th!! )
CRU
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Default Re: Kyle Busch in Chase - YES! - 09-15-2009 , 11:08 AM



In article "Crusader" <cru357 (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote:

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"Chuck Steak" <Chuck_Steak (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message

While I would not be quick to crown Kyle "champion",
I know that he had a better season than a lot of the guys in the chase.
So I know, where "I" rank him, and it doesn't matter where
others, or NASCAR rank him.

It ONLY matters where NASCAR 'ranked' him--13th!! )
CRU

To some...
I don't argue that Vickers made the chase and Kyle didn't.
Brian should be in it, based on what the organization says you should
do to make it, with the current point system.
I just think that Kyle had a better season.
Regardless of what others regard as a good season.
To me, making the chase is 'part' of having a good season,
and not 'the' determining factor.

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Default Re: Kyle Busch in Chase - YES! - 09-20-2009 , 06:50 PM



"Chuck Steak" <Chuck_Steak (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote


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To some...
I don't argue that Vickers made the chase and Kyle didn't.
Brian should be in it, based on what the organization says you should
do to make it, with the current point system.
I just think that Kyle had a better season.
Regardless of what others regard as a good season.
To me, making the chase is 'part' of having a good season,
and not 'the' determining factor.
I can agree with you on some levels... but in motorsports, it really doesn't
matter how well you do during a race if you don't finish it well... if the
"best/fastest" car out there finishes last each week, then he really isn't
the fastest/best... it works in reverse too...how many drivers can you think
of right now that may have been the "best" on the day they won a race, but
are only mediocre or less drivers? I could make a list, and we'll start it
with Michael Waltrip for effect...

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