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Re: NASCAR Drivers Can't Race In The Rain?
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Re: NASCAR Drivers Can't Race In The Rain? -
08-11-2007
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At a road course? How incompetent are these hacks? -- . -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com |
have any experience in competition in the rain, though for a while
they were bringing rain tires to the road courses. They never used
them though and finally just stopped bringing them. I think they
might have used them once during a practice session and more cars were
off track than on. Nascar needs to either add enough road courses to
expect a driver to be good on them, or get off them all together.
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On Aug 11, 8:41 am, noone <no... (AT) nowhere (DOT) com> wrote: At a road course? How incompetent are these hacks? -- . -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com On road courses most are totally clueless in the dry. None of them have any experience in competition in the rain, though for a while they were bringing rain tires to the road courses. They never used them though and finally just stopped bringing them. I think they might have used them once during a practice session and more cars were off track than on. Nascar needs to either add enough road courses to expect a driver to be good on them, or get off them all together. |
don't have much experience on wet tracks. Those with significant rod
racing background do have experience, some have extensive experience, in
the rain.
Qualifying and racing on dry pavement strongly favors those that have
limited backgrounds in wider varieties of racing. Its really the only
way to keep them competitive.
If NASCAR were to allow qualifying and racing in the rain, all the
ringers and former open wheel drivers would have a better shot at
qualifying and winning. Most of the NASCAR golden boyz would look like
idiots.
IMO, NASCAR should add another race at Dayton on the road course.
That's a great track and most fit for a NASCAR road race. Run the
course backwards to make it even more interesting (the way Indy does).
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On Aug 11, 8:41 am, noone <no... (AT) nowhere (DOT) com> wrote: At a road course? How incompetent are these hacks? -- . -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com On road courses most are totally clueless in the dry. None of them have any experience in competition in the rain, though for a while they were bringing rain tires to the road courses. They never used them though and finally just stopped bringing them. I think they might have used them once during a practice session and more cars were off track than on. Nascar needs to either add enough road courses to expect a driver to be good on them, or get off them all together. |
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Mark wrote: On Aug 11, 8:41 am, noone <no... (AT) nowhere (DOT) com> wrote: At a road course? How incompetent are these hacks? -- . -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com On road courses most are totally clueless in the dry. None of them have any experience in competition in the rain, though for a while they were bringing rain tires to the road courses. They never used them though and finally just stopped bringing them. I think they might have used them once during a practice session and more cars were off track than on. Nascar needs to either add enough road courses to expect a driver to be good on them, or get off them all together. I beg to differ. Those that came out of dirt or oval racing usually don't have much experience on wet tracks. Those with significant rod racing background do have experience, some have extensive experience, in the rain. Qualifying and racing on dry pavement strongly favors those that have limited backgrounds in wider varieties of racing. Its really the only way to keep them competitive. If NASCAR were to allow qualifying and racing in the rain, all the ringers and former open wheel drivers would have a better shot at qualifying and winning. Most of the NASCAR golden boyz would look like idiots. IMO, NASCAR should add another race at Dayton on the road course. That's a great track and most fit for a NASCAR road race. Run the course backwards to make it even more interesting (the way Indy does). |
rain no matter who is driving it.
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On Aug 11, 10:18 pm, Cal Vanize <dont.even.spam... (AT) myspam (DOT) org> wrote: Mark wrote: On Aug 11, 8:41 am, noone <no... (AT) nowhere (DOT) com> wrote: At a road course? How incompetent are these hacks? -- . -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com On road courses most are totally clueless in the dry. None of them have any experience in competition in the rain, though for a while they were bringing rain tires to the road courses. They never used them though and finally just stopped bringing them. I think they might have used them once during a practice session and more cars were off track than on. Nascar needs to either add enough road courses to expect a driver to be good on them, or get off them all together. I beg to differ. Those that came out of dirt or oval racing usually don't have much experience on wet tracks. Those with significant rod racing background do have experience, some have extensive experience, in the rain. Qualifying and racing on dry pavement strongly favors those that have limited backgrounds in wider varieties of racing. Its really the only way to keep them competitive. If NASCAR were to allow qualifying and racing in the rain, all the ringers and former open wheel drivers would have a better shot at qualifying and winning. Most of the NASCAR golden boyz would look like idiots. IMO, NASCAR should add another race at Dayton on the road course. That's a great track and most fit for a NASCAR road race. Run the course backwards to make it even more interesting (the way Indy does). A 3,400 pound car with shitty brakes isn't going to handle well in the rain no matter who is driving it. |
driver has the same challenges.
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tonystewart02_05ch... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote: On Aug 11, 10:18 pm, Cal Vanize <dont.even.spam... (AT) myspam (DOT) org> wrote: Mark wrote: On Aug 11, 8:41 am, noone <no... (AT) nowhere (DOT) com> wrote: At a road course? How incompetent are these hacks? -- . -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com On road courses most are totally clueless in the dry. None of them have any experience in competition in the rain, though for a while they were bringing rain tires to the road courses. They never used them though and finally just stopped bringing them. I think they might have used them once during a practice session and more cars were off track than on. Nascar needs to either add enough road courses to expect a driver to be good on them, or get off them all together. I beg to differ. Those that came out of dirt or oval racing usually don't have much experience on wet tracks. Those with significant rod racing background do have experience, some have extensive experience, in the rain. Qualifying and racing on dry pavement strongly favors those that have limited backgrounds in wider varieties of racing. Its really the only way to keep them competitive. If NASCAR were to allow qualifying and racing in the rain, all the ringers and former open wheel drivers would have a better shot at qualifying and winning. Most of the NASCAR golden boyz would look like idiots. IMO, NASCAR should add another race at Dayton on the road course. That's a great track and most fit for a NASCAR road race. Run the course backwards to make it even more interesting (the way Indy does). A 3,400 pound car with shitty brakes isn't going to handle well in the rain no matter who is driving it. But it will handle equally well for every driver out there. Every driver has the same challenges. |
are winning all of the RR's.
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On Aug 12, 12:17 am, Cal Vanize <dont.even.spam... (AT) myspam (DOT) org> wrote: tonystewart02_05ch... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote: On Aug 11, 10:18 pm, Cal Vanize <dont.even.spam... (AT) myspam (DOT) org> wrote: Mark wrote: On Aug 11, 8:41 am, noone <no... (AT) nowhere (DOT) com> wrote: At a road course? How incompetent are these hacks? -- . -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com On road courses most are totally clueless in the dry. None of them have any experience in competition in the rain, though for a while they were bringing rain tires to the road courses. They never used them though and finally just stopped bringing them. I think they might have used them once during a practice session and more cars were off track than on. Nascar needs to either add enough road courses to expect a driver to be good on them, or get off them all together. I beg to differ. Those that came out of dirt or oval racing usually don't have much experience on wet tracks. Those with significant rod racing background do have experience, some have extensive experience, in the rain. Qualifying and racing on dry pavement strongly favors those that have limited backgrounds in wider varieties of racing. Its really the only way to keep them competitive. If NASCAR were to allow qualifying and racing in the rain, all the ringers and former open wheel drivers would have a better shot at qualifying and winning. Most of the NASCAR golden boyz would look like idiots. IMO, NASCAR should add another race at Dayton on the road course. That's a great track and most fit for a NASCAR road race. Run the course backwards to make it even more interesting (the way Indy does). A 3,400 pound car with shitty brakes isn't going to handle well in the rain no matter who is driving it. But it will handle equally well for every driver out there. Every driver has the same challenges. As they do on drive pavement, and last time I checked, the Nascar boys are winning all of the RR's. |
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tonystewart02_05ch... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote: On Aug 12, 12:17 am, Cal Vanize <dont.even.spam... (AT) myspam (DOT) org> wrote: tonystewart02_05ch... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote: On Aug 11, 10:18 pm, Cal Vanize <dont.even.spam... (AT) myspam (DOT) org> wrote: Mark wrote: On Aug 11, 8:41 am, noone <no... (AT) nowhere (DOT) com> wrote: At a road course? How incompetent are these hacks? -- . -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com On road courses most are totally clueless in the dry. None of them have any experience in competition in the rain, though for a while they were bringing rain tires to the road courses. They never used them though and finally just stopped bringing them. I think they might have used them once during a practice session and more cars were off track than on. Nascar needs to either add enough road courses to expect a driver to be good on them, or get off them all together. I beg to differ. Those that came out of dirt or oval racing usually don't have much experience on wet tracks. Those with significant rod racing background do have experience, some have extensive experience, in the rain. Qualifying and racing on dry pavement strongly favors those that have limited backgrounds in wider varieties of racing. Its really the only way to keep them competitive. If NASCAR were to allow qualifying and racing in the rain, all the ringers and former open wheel drivers would have a better shot at qualifying and winning. Most of the NASCAR golden boyz would look like idiots. IMO, NASCAR should add another race at Dayton on the road course. That's a great track and most fit for a NASCAR road race. Run the course backwards to make it even more interesting (the way Indy does). A 3,400 pound car with shitty brakes isn't going to handle well in the rain no matter who is driving it. But it will handle equally well for every driver out there. Every driver has the same challenges. As they do on drive pavement, and last time I checked, the Nascar boys are winning all of the RR's. I wonder how they'd do in the rain.... |
Anyway, I think the Nascar boys would still do better in the rain
because they are more familiar with the car....And I'm talking about
the good RR's in Nascar, not the guys that aren't good on RC's.
Just look how well that Dale Sr, Jr and Tony did on wet tracks in
sports cars at the Rolex 24,
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tonystewart02_05champ (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote: On Aug 12, 12:17 am, Cal Vanize <dont.even.spam... (AT) myspam (DOT) org> wrote: tonystewart02_05ch... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote: On Aug 11, 10:18 pm, Cal Vanize <dont.even.spam... (AT) myspam (DOT) org> wrote: Mark wrote: On Aug 11, 8:41 am, noone <no... (AT) nowhere (DOT) com> wrote: At a road course? How incompetent are these hacks? -- . -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com On road courses most are totally clueless in the dry. None of them have any experience in competition in the rain, though for a while they were bringing rain tires to the road courses. They never used them though and finally just stopped bringing them. I think they might have used them once during a practice session and more cars were off track than on. Nascar needs to either add enough road courses to expect a driver to be good on them, or get off them all together. I beg to differ. Those that came out of dirt or oval racing usually don't have much experience on wet tracks. Those with significant rod racing background do have experience, some have extensive experience, in the rain. Qualifying and racing on dry pavement strongly favors those that have limited backgrounds in wider varieties of racing. Its really the only way to keep them competitive. If NASCAR were to allow qualifying and racing in the rain, all the ringers and former open wheel drivers would have a better shot at qualifying and winning. Most of the NASCAR golden boyz would look like idiots. IMO, NASCAR should add another race at Dayton on the road course. That's a great track and most fit for a NASCAR road race. Run the course backwards to make it even more interesting (the way Indy does). A 3,400 pound car with shitty brakes isn't going to handle well in the rain no matter who is driving it. But it will handle equally well for every driver out there. Every driver has the same challenges. As they do on drive pavement, and last time I checked, the Nascar boys are winning all of the RR's. I wonder how they'd do in the rain.... |
like you're just bored and are trying to disguise borderline troll-like
behavior.
Fact is, these cars aren't designed to run on road courses, and the COTs
(which already have trouble turning) are even worse. The best drivers in
the world would be sliding all over the track in rain and the road races
would be a bigger cluster fuck than they are now. It's not worth
"wondering" about because it'll never happen, and it should never happen
without drastic changes to the car or tire sizes.
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I could be mistaken, but you don't appear to be a NASCAR fan at all. Looks like you're just bored and are trying to disguise borderline troll-like behavior. |
the ultimate pinnacle of auto sport as some on this newsgroup seem to think.
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