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Joey Tribiani
 
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Default Re: NASCAR Speeds - 07-24-2009 , 11:51 AM






"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE (AT) windstream (DOT) net> wrote


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Not to mention, a rather foolish one.
sorry to snip the rest of your statement, but this pretty much said it
all....agree

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John McCoy
 
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Default Re: NASCAR Speeds - 07-24-2009 , 11:04 PM






Chuck_Steak (AT) nospam (DOT) com (Chuck Steak) wrote in
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You always make good points... but I guess a lot has to do with
how we want to define 'good old days'.
When you are older than NASCAR,
the early 90's don't seem like "the old days"!!!!!!
That's true. I think that early 90's era will eventually come to
be seen as NASCAR's golden years, but it may take some little
while yet.

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btw, did my email get to you, or did I screw it up?
Yep - nice pics, too.

John

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A. Jones
 
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Default Re: NASCAR Speeds - 07-25-2009 , 02:38 PM



On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:23:39 -0400, Tim Shelton
<noemail1543 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

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The case for keeping car speeds down below 200 MPH at NASCAR tracks
does not cut it. Indy cars exceed 200 MPH on tracks they run and
there does not seem to be the same level of concern for that. Indy
cars have a greater capability of going airborne over that of a NASCAR
COT. Dump that stupid restrictor plate and let these guys run, let
the engineers buid the car to run..
That's a very good point. An Indy car will much more easily go sailing
compared to a stock car.

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A. Jones
 
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Default Re: NASCAR Speeds - 07-25-2009 , 02:41 PM



On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:52:09 -0700 (PDT), BRADY MOORE
<buster.moore24 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

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On Jul 22, 5:23*pm, Tim Shelton <noemail1... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
The case for keeping car speeds down below 200 MPH at NASCAR tracks
does not cut it. *Indy cars exceed 200 MPH on tracks they run and
there does not seem to be the same level of concern for that. *Indy
cars have a greater capability of going airborne over that of a NASCAR
COT. *Dump that stupid restrictor plate and let these guys run, let
the engineers buid the car to run..

The restrictor plate needs to be removed for saftey purposes so the
drivers can get seperation with the accerator. NASCAR can slow the
cars down with body and frame if they wanted to, but for some reason
they are stuck on the plate.
I guess NASCAR wants to use something the crews cannot try to overcome
or out engineer.

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Fish
 
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Default Re: NASCAR Speeds - 07-26-2009 , 02:13 AM



On Jul 25, 10:55*pm, Tim Shelton <noemail1... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
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On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:38:13 -0400, A. Jones <ajo... (AT) intrtek (DOT) com
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On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:23:39 -0400, Tim Shelton
noemail1... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

The case for keeping car speeds down below 200 MPH at NASCAR tracks
does not cut it. *Indy cars exceed 200 MPH on tracks they run and
there does not seem to be the same level of concern for that. *Indy
cars have a greater capability of going airborne over that of a NASCAR
COT. *Dump that stupid restrictor plate and let these guys run, let
the engineers buid the car to run..

That's a very good point. An Indy car will much more easily go sailing
compared to a stock car.

If goodyear engineers knew what a engineered COT could deliver in aero
and othe downforce issue, they could build a different tire, probably
a harder and more durable tire to address the aero improvements
engineers could build into the cars. *NASCAR is going in the wrong
direction. *
a harder tire wouldn't exactly solve the problems. they would sure as
hell last longer, but that isn't the issue (with the exception of at
indy last year) because the tires seem to be running the full fuel
windows now, the issue is the handling of the tires, the tires need to
be softer, and thus provide more grip, and get the cars to turn better
through the corners, a larger, wider tire would give teams the ability
to run a softer tire, without sacrificing the durability

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Chuck Steak
 
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Default Re: NASCAR Speeds - 07-26-2009 , 01:00 PM



In article Tim Shelton <noemail1543 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

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The sport is so heavily regulated with what type of spring you can
use, what type of shock package you can use, jets in your carborator,
etc...
that isn't really accurate.

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A. Jones
 
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Default Re: NASCAR Speeds - 07-26-2009 , 02:14 PM



On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:30:56 -0400, Tim Shelton
<noemail1543 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

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Make a smaller lighter car if they need to and let the engineers build
the cars so they can acheive speeds and still stay on the track,
greater downforce.
That would be my opinion. Its own set of problems appear like
downforce but, if the problem is heavy car and flimsy fence, having
3400 pounds just for the sake of the number is about as stupid as
stubbornly sticking with carbureted V-8's.

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Mike Marlow
 
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Default Re: NASCAR Speeds - 07-26-2009 , 11:08 PM



"A. Jones" <ajones (AT) intrtek (DOT) com> wrote

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On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:30:56 -0400, Tim Shelton
noemail1543 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Make a smaller lighter car if they need to and let the engineers build
the cars so they can acheive speeds and still stay on the track,
greater downforce.

That would be my opinion. Its own set of problems appear like
downforce but, if the problem is heavy car and flimsy fence, having
3400 pounds just for the sake of the number is about as stupid as
stubbornly sticking with carbureted V-8's.

Flimsy fence? Ok Expert-At-Everything... just how is the fence "flimsy"?

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