Re: NASCAR Speeds

#1

Tim Shelton wrote:

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The case for keeping car speeds down below 200 MPH at NASCAR tracks
does not cut it. Indy cars exceed 200 MPH on tracks they run and
there does not seem to be the same level of concern for that. Indy
cars have a greater capability of going airborne over that of a NASCAR
COT. Dump that stupid restrictor plate and let these guys run, let
the engineers buid the car to run..

You need to take some trolling lessons from RickyBobby.

#2

On Jul 22, 5:23*pm, Tim Shelton <noemail1... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

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The case for keeping car speeds down below 200 MPH at NASCAR tracks
does not cut it. *Indy cars exceed 200 MPH on tracks they run and
there does not seem to be the same level of concern for that. *Indy
cars have a greater capability of going airborne over that of a NASCAR
COT. *Dump that stupid restrictor plate and let these guys run, let
the engineers buid the car to run..

indy cars have a hell of a lot more downforce on their cars than cup
cars do, and as such, corner better, handle better, and stay on the
ground better the fast they go. it is because of their ability to
handle more nimbly that the tires probably wear better (i say
probably, as i'll admit i don't follow indy very closely unless my
countryman paul tracy is running)

#3

On Jul 22, 6:19*pm, Tim Shelton <noemail1... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

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On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:54:40 -0700 (PDT), Fish

godwin.da... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
On Jul 22, 5:23*pm, Tim Shelton <noemail1... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
The case for keeping car speeds down below 200 MPH at NASCAR tracks
does not cut it. *Indy cars exceed 200 MPH on tracks they run and
there does not seem to be the same level of concern for that. *Indy
cars have a greater capability of going airborne over that of a NASCAR
COT. *Dump that stupid restrictor plate and let these guys run, let
the engineers buid the car to run..

indy cars have a hell of a lot more downforce on their cars than cup
cars do, and as such, corner better, handle better, and stay on the
ground better the fast they go. it is because of their ability to
handle more nimbly that the tires probably wear better (i say
probably, as i'll admit i don't follow indy very closely unless my
countryman paul tracy is running)

And the rulling body of NASCAR could allow engineers to build COT cars
with better down force, better aero packages, better suspensions. *BUT
NASCAR DOES NOT ALLOW THAT. *

NASCAR shoud back off many of their rules and let the teams build
these cars and from that, maybe Goodyear can step up to the plate and
provide a better tire, though that may be a stretch. *NASCAR wants to
regulate every part on a car and that is just the wrong direction to
go with racing. *

the problem is that by the very nature of stock cars, is that you will
never achieve downforce levels close to an open wheel car, there isn't
room on a stock car for winglets, other than the front splitter and
rear wing currently on there, but nascar could allow teams to work on
the front fenders and such as they did the old car to achieve a little
more downforce, but nothing significant. rumour has it nascar's
insurance also won't allow teams to travel faster than 200 mph, which
is why that has long been the magic number restrictor plates limit the
cars at.

#4

Tim Shelton wrote:

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The people who are descendants of NASCAR's founders have successfully
run this form of auto racing into the ground, or darn close to it.

But yet you still watch and start trollish threads such as this one.

#5

Tim Shelton wrote:

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On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:32:49 -0400, TS02_05champ
tonystewart02_05champ (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Tim Shelton wrote:
The people who are descendants of NASCAR's founders have successfully
run this form of auto racing into the ground, or darn close to it.

But yet you still watch and start trollish threads such as this one.

I have followed this sport since the days of King Petty running around
the tracks with his winged dodge. Maybe you should consider a well
thought response to the thread instead of the criticism. These
threads spark discussion and for most of the responders, the threads
do provide some level of insight, whether it is revealing that I don't
know crap about NASCAR or not. I do have an opinion and you obviously
do also..
Indy cars exceed 200 MPH on tracks they run and
there does not seem to be the same level of concern for that.

Isn't it common sense why there is no concern for Indy cars going over
200MPH?

"Stock" cars weigh about 3,400 lbs, an Indy car weighs about half that,
if that much.

The catchfence will contain an Indy car *much* easier than it will a
"stock" car.

This topic has been discussed into the ground.

#6

In article Tim Shelton <noemail1543 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

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I have followed this sport since the days of King Petty running around
the tracks with his winged dodge.

You mean when NASCAR wasn't popular...

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Dan

No matter how much you push the envelope,
it'll still be stationery

#7

In article TS02_05champ <tonystewart02_05champ (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

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Isn't it common sense why there is no concern for Indy cars going over
200MPH?
"Stock" cars weigh about 3,400 lbs, an Indy car weighs about half that,
if that much.

I don't know that there is "no" concern.
Although I would agree, that an Indy car going into the stands
would probably kill fewer people than the stock car.

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The catchfence will contain an Indy car *much* easier than it will a
"stock" car.

Maybe easier, but has a NASCAR stocker ever gone through?

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This topic has been discussed into the ground.

But rarely with anyone changing their opinion.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dan

No matter how much you push the envelope,
it'll still be stationery

#8

"Fish" <godwin.dave8 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

On Jul 22, 5:23 pm, Tim Shelton <noemail1... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:

The case for keeping car speeds down below 200 MPH at NASCAR tracks
does not cut it. Indy cars exceed 200 MPH on tracks they run and
there does not seem to be the same level of concern for that. Indy
cars have a greater capability of going airborne over that of a NASCAR
COT. Dump that stupid restrictor plate and let these guys run, let
the engineers buid the car to run..

indy cars have a hell of a lot more downforce on their cars than cup
cars do, and as such, corner better, handle better, and stay on the
ground better the fast they go. it is because of their ability to
handle more nimbly that the tires probably wear better (i say
probably, as i'll admit i don't follow indy very closely unless my
countryman paul tracy is running)

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Indy racing is becoming the best show among the Big 3 , NA$CAR,F1 and Indy.
I watch them all and have to give them thier props.
NA$CAR is becoming unwatchable because of the booth clowns, no matter which
network.
DW and Kenny Wallace need to be killed.
I long for the days of Ned Jarret and Chris Economaki.

#9

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:04:18 -0400, Ray O'Hara wrote:

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"Fish" <godwin.dave8 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:e75a26c7-eb8e-4487-8976-215140b8b306 (AT) c29g2000yqd (DOT) googlegroups.com...
On Jul 22, 5:23 pm, Tim Shelton <noemail1... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
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indy cars have a hell of a lot more downforce on their cars than cup
cars do, and as such, corner better, handle better, and stay on the
ground better the fast they go. it is because of their ability to
handle more nimbly that the tires probably wear better (i say
probably, as i'll admit i don't follow indy very closely unless my
countryman paul tracy is running)

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Indy racing is becoming the best show among the Big 3 , NA$CAR,F1 and Indy.
I watch them all and have to give them thier props.
NA$CAR is becoming unwatchable because of the booth clowns, no matter which
network.
DW and Kenny Wallace need to be killed.
I long for the days of Ned Jarret and Chris Economaki.

those loud mouth schnooks in the booth must get paid $per word.
someone needs to beat on them with the STFU bat.