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Re: Open Wheel Racing
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Re: Open Wheel Racing -
06-19-2009
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"Chuck Steak" <Chuck_St... (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message news:SBg_l.3096$u86.1701 (AT) nwrddc01 (DOT) gnilink.net... In article John McCoy <igop... (AT) ix (DOT) netcom.com> wrote: "Rod's work news" <rod.graml... (AT) ualberta (DOT) ca> wrote in and fwiw, ......... the open wheel cars are probably easier to drive Depends on which open wheel cars you're speaking of. IRL cars on a big track might be. ... And I doubt there's anything harder to drive than a WoO sprint car - more power, less weight, and an absurdly short wheelbase isn't the recipe for easy handling. John It's an interesting thing. And relative to what we define 'easier' as. It's easier to drive an open wheel car the same speed as a stock car But it's hardly easier to race them. It's hard to 'race' any car.. They just have very different characteristics. But John is right on, with the type of open wheeler being pretty important to the discussion.. Sprints, Supers, Midgets are harder to drive than stock cars... no doubt. IRL cars.... can't help much there. But I've no reason to think that the concept is any different. It is actually easier than you think to determine. The sweet spot for athletes of all types is 26-29 years old. I do not care what sport it is. It could be a stick and ball player or a horse jockey or a car driver. At 26 they have the skills and experience and at 29 the reflexes have not yet begun to slacken off. If you had the box scores for all of these various sorts of racing it would be easy to see in which form the 26-29 year olds had the highest rate of success. That is the most difficult one. It is silly to even think of a 50 or 60 year old F1 driver. It is almost as silly to think of a 19 year old F1 driver. It is clear to me that the more difficult form of racing between open wheel and closed wheel is open wheel due to the deviation of age at which is can be done well. That is just my opinion and your mileage may vary. |
That is called the "Ain't Jane argument". It is cute but it does not work.
The highest level for intensively competitive sports is 26 to 29 years of
age regardless of Vettel. Maybe in gymnastics it is lower and maybe in horse
racing jockeys it is higher. But the average is still 26 to 29 years of age
no matter what you say.
If you want to disagree with me about anything to do with sports you had
better come with something a lot better than that.
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Mike Marlow wrote: "Invisibrarian" <no.spam (AT) mail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:zQC_l.117$j84.53 (AT) nlpi061 (DOT) nbdc.sbc.com... DAVe wrote: On Jun 18, 4:25 pm, Invisibrarian <no.s... (AT) mail (DOT) com> wrote: Chuck Steak wrote: I hope so. When I grow up, I hope I can be just like you... Most do, few succeed. Yep that brain is still firmly invisible. And yours has yet to be activated. Oh come on... can't we all just get along... He's a humble guy with a lot to be humble about. |
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Way to many threads for a simple posting, you people are way off track. |
off-track racing.
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Chuck Steak wrote: In article Invisibrarian <no.spam (AT) mail (DOT) com> wrote: Or maybe, you just didn't make a point again or obscured it again. I'm not as good at relating what I think, to what I write as you are, that's all. Usually students start to get more coherent writing styles as they get farther along in school. So in a couple of years, you'll start to improve. |
U r the #1 most arrogant, self-absorbed poster ever in RASN!
Well on 2nd thot, maybe #2 to Jalan?
Crusader
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The highest level for intensively competitive sports is 26 to 29 years of age |
is it something you suspect is the case ??
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"RickyBobby" <nascar42 (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote in message news:BGE_l.7143$jI6.4673 (AT) newsfe11 (DOT) iad... The highest level for intensively competitive sports is 26 to 29 years of age Is that in fact a statistic of athletics demographics ????? ............. or is it something you suspect is the case ?? |
of the brain and muscles, especially the brain, isn't complete
until around age 25. And production of testosterone, which is
essential to maintaining muscles, starts to decline after 30.
John
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"Chuck Steak" <Chuck_Steak (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message news:SBg_l.3096$u86.1701 (AT) nwrddc01 (DOT) gnilink.net... In article John McCoy <igopogo (AT) ix (DOT) netcom.com> wrote: "Rod's work news" <rod.gramlich (AT) ualberta (DOT) ca> wrote in and fwiw, ......... the open wheel cars are probably easier to drive Depends on which open wheel cars you're speaking of. IRL cars on a big track might be. ... And I doubt there's anything harder to drive than a WoO sprint car - more power, less weight, and an absurdly short wheelbase isn't the recipe for easy handling. John It's an interesting thing. And relative to what we define 'easier' as. It's easier to drive an open wheel car the same speed as a stock car But it's hardly easier to race them. It's hard to 'race' any car.. They just have very different characteristics. But John is right on, with the type of open wheeler being pretty important to the discussion.. Sprints, Supers, Midgets are harder to drive than stock cars... no doubt. IRL cars.... can't help much there. But I've no reason to think that the concept is any different. It is actually easier than you think to determine. The sweet spot for athletes of all types is 26-29 years old. I do not care what sport it is. It could be a stick and ball player or a horse jockey or a car driver. At 26 they have the skills and experience and at 29 the reflexes have not yet begun to slacken off. If you had the box scores for all of these various sorts of racing it would be easy to see in which form the 26-29 year olds had the highest rate of success. That is the most difficult one. It is silly to even think of a 50 or 60 year old F1 driver. It is almost as silly to think of a 19 year old F1 driver. It is clear to me that the more difficult form of racing between open wheel and closed wheel is open wheel due to the deviation of age at which is can be done well. That is just my opinion and your mileage may vary. |
agree with the premise.
I love my NASCAR, and think it has some great drivers, but common sense says
that if drivers like Morgan Shepard, Bill Elliot, Mark Martin, James Hylton
etc etc can spend 30 years racing at the top level.... it doesn't really
require 'elite sportsmen' to compete.
Not saying it's easy, but I suspect long term NASCAR success depends more on
a good racing brain than fast reflexes or raw driving skill... whereas I
would almost say the opposite about F1. They can't afford to over think, or
even think about too much at all, as it has to be second nature in those
cars. I'd say reflexes, peak physical fitness and natural driving ability
are the big ones there.
F1 probably does have the 'best race car drivers' but I think NASCAR still
has the drivers with the biggest balls!
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