Don't know nuthin bout Machinery .. Re the 48 wrote:
It passed pre-Q inspection; it failed post-Q inspection. What more do
you need?

N.

"Nancy1" wrote ...
That could also just mean they missed it in pre-qual inspection, couldn't it?
Unless you are assuming the nascar inspectors (a subset of nascar) is perfect.

WildWeasel wrote:
Yes, but it sounded to me like it was so obvious, nobody could've
missed it.

N.

"WildWeasel" <wweasel_24 (AT) HooYah (DOT) com> wrote

All the stuff I've heard and read the past few hours seems to point to this.
Seems that "whatever" it was that was there to alter the rear
window/height/whatever, was missed in the first tech pass, and caught after
the Q run. Presumably because it had altered the car in such a way that it
didn't fit the template or measurement across the area in question after the
run. (Haven't dug into all the specifics yet today.)

Any guesses on his suspension? I'll take 2 races. I think it should be more
like 3-5, but he's a Hendrick Boy, so I figure he'll basically get off with
a wrist slap, which means 2 races at home, and maybe $50k-$100k in fineage.
Oh, and they'll sieze his Nextel phone for those 2 races too. ;-)

"Nancy1" wrote...
Well, these are the options that I can see:

If it *was* obvious:
- in general, Chad is an blithering idiot for trying to cheat with something so
obvious that "nobody could miss it" (this doesn't make sense, does it?)
- Chad made the change after pre-qual inspection, hoping no one would notice the
obvious *and* hoping he had the time to secretly change it back after Q but
before post-qual inspection (this one doesn't make much more sense, does it?)
- it was as obvious as the nose on their faces and yet the inspectors didn't
catch it the first time
- it was as obvious as the nose on their faces and the inspectors *did* catch it
in pre qual but didn't say anything, waiting to nail him AFTER Q so they could
REALLY nail him

If it wasn't that obvious:
- Chad made the change after pre-qual inspection, hoping he had the time to
secretly change it back after Q but before post-qual inspection and, if he
didn't, hoping it would sneak through. (this one still doesn't make much sense,
does it?)
- it was there all along but the inspectors missed it during pre-qual inspection
- the inspectors *did* catch pre qual it but didn't say anything waiting to nail
him AFTER Q so they could REALLY nail him

WildWeasel wrote:

This seems most likely. It appears from previous seasons' actions,
that the NASCAR officials like to wait until something is a done
deal..after inspection..after qualifying..after the race is run, and
then nail the miscreants. I've often wondered why they wait.

N.

Nancy1 wrote:

Doesn't the 48 and 5 get a second inspection after they fail? Like Dover?

--
Mike

"Nancy1" <nancy-dooley (AT) uiowa (DOT) edu> wrote

Hmmmmmm... perspective is everything. To me... it sounded like it was very
subtle. I'm really thinking that if NASCAR wants to micro manage everything
about these cars so much, and (seemingly) look for every possible way to
ding a team, that if they pass a car through pre-Qualifying, then that's
it - the car is legal. No matter what they miss, it's their job to certify
the car and if they certify it, then it's a legal car. Put some of this
stuff right back on NASCAR's shoulders.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE (AT) alltel (DOT) net

On 14 Feb 2006 09:02:33 -0800, "Nancy1" <nancy-dooley (AT) uiowa (DOT) edu>
wrote:

Possibly to see what type of advantage one has with the questioned
part etc....

"SimRacer" <nOspaM@simracer68 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote



Why? Pushing the limits and even cheating is a long standing NASCAR
tradition. Why suspend a guy for trying? Hell Daytona itself is well known
for this - they used to have the Table of Shame right outside of the
inspection station where they would put all of the confiscated parts out for
view. Just can't understand this fixation people have with suspending and
fining a team. Catch them cheating and take away their finishing position.
It doesn't need to be any more punitive than that.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE (AT) alltel (DOT) net