Re: Time to park Stewart

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F.A.D.E.Jr. wrote:

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"Speeed Racer!" <wedontneedanysteenkingrelpies (AT) whodat (DOT) org> wrote in message
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It is time for Nascar to take a long, hard look at Tony Stewart's antics.
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NA$CAR doesn't have the balls, I'd bet that there fear is not from Pasta Boy
but his sponser. How many probations...double secret probations has he had
now, 6..7, and still the manic has never been parked?

You're missing an important factor: "The Business of NASCAR." What
makes NASCAR tick. What keeps NASCAR in the news. What brings fans to
races and viewers to watch broadcasts.

No, NASCAR won't suspend or expel Stewart for several reasons.

NASCAR needs a few bad bayz to keep interest and controvery. Its good
for them.

Tony's their champion. He has fan backing. He has sponsor backing. He
gets attention (good, bad and otherwise).

He's a very good driver. His mouth isn't quite in control (see
"controversy"). He'll be competitive in just about every race.

Tony talks to the press. He's not shy about saying whatever (and I mean
WHATEVER) is on his mind. Not at all afraid to stick his foot in his
mouth. The press loves it and reports on it. if they are lacking an
important sports story, they just ask Tony what he thinks. That's good
for about 4 days of controversy.

All these add up to keeping NASCAR in the news and in the minds of fans
with reports from on and off the track.

NASCAR couldn't hire a publicity firm that would generate 10% of what
Tony does.

Why would NASCAR EVER end that relationship?

(Certainly not because the fans would complain. That's just more
reinforcement.)

#22

elaich wrote:

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"20_2x_Champ" <nojcrap (AT) home (DOT) com> wrote in news:UJsKf.326$1B2.234 (AT) fe07 (DOT) lga:

Can you post a link to where he said "I wrecked the 17 on purpose?"

How about the post race interview?

That's not exactly what he said.

#23

"SimRacer" <nOspaM@simracer68 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

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But what? He tried to bang in and damage the 17's sheet metal. They hooked
up, and they both got down onto the apron/grass. Granted, it was a dumb
move
on the 20's part, but the outcome was not what Tony was intending I
imagine.

Hopefully Tony's intention wasn't manslauter. But it could easily have

resulted in that.
A high speed track like Daytona historically has proven to be a killer.
Of all people out there, Tony should know that a lot more than just a little
bent sheet metal could result from a hard bump at 195mph.
He sent Kenseth spinning in the grass uncontrollably towards outside wall at
a fairly good clip. What if he happened to smack it square on the driver
side? What if another driver couldn't avoid the spinning 17 car and center
punched his door at speed? It wouldn't have been pretty. And I don't think
any current safety device would prevent serious injuries to the driver in
that situation.

#24

Cal Vanize <forgetthespam (AT) nospamhere (DOT) au> wrote in
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That's not exactly what he said.

Nah. "He got what was coming to him" didn't at all imply malice.

Not even the most diehard Stewart fan could look at that and say it wasn't
intentional. You'd have to be blind not to see it.

My best friend is a diehard Tony fan, and he arrived this morning saying he
is ashamed to wear Tony's hat now.

#25

AGREED
He is my No.2 driver and i AGREE

"Speeed Racer!" <wedontneedanysteenkingrelpies (AT) whodat (DOT) org> wrote

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It is time for Nascar to take a long, hard look at Tony Stewart's antics.
The same driver who railed against Nascar for allowing racing that was
going
to kill someone eventually now admits to intentionally pushing Kenseth
into
the infield for what could have been an incredibly horrific accident. And
his reason? He claims that Kenseth got into him on lap 20.
Even if that were the case, it's a piss-poor reason to endanger the entire
field, but~
I Tivo'd the race, watched it several times over, & all I saw was Kenseth
on
the outside of Stewart between turns three and four. Kenseth was holding
his
line, and Stewart washed out towards the 17, gets caught up in his side
draft and gets loose. Kenseth did nothing wrong, & Stewwy exacted his
revenge for no good reason some 100 laps later.
Gordon goes under Stewart in the corner and washes up in front of him a
little early, and Stewart refuses to give any ground, so they both end up
in
the wall.
Gordon takes 50% of the responsibility (with is a fair assessment) , yet
Stewart insists that he was completely in the right, and rants about it
for
the next 10 laps or so.
How many other drivers got rubbed on, or pushed away because they had the
misfortune of having to drive near Stewart's car yesterday, or any other
race he participates in for that matter?
Any time that anybody gets within 5 feet of his fat ass, pasta boy takes
it
as an assault on him and feels that it is his job to punish the offender.
After the race, he either looks like a madman that has come to his senses,
and quickly makes up any excuse to get out of trouble, or he is still in
full blown rage mode and spews his obligatory "This guy screwed me", or
"That guy screwed me" take.
Stewart has anger management issues that only strong medication and a good
severe smack in the mouth by Nascar can fix.
This dude is a danger to himself and others.
You act this way in public and you get a long term stay at the "happy
hotel", so why is Nascar sitting on their hands when it comes to his
idiotic
behavior?
And screw that double secret probation bullshit, park him for a few weeks,
&
see if his attitude changes.
Nascar punishes more severely for cheating than it does for drivers
putting
others in harm's way. What does that say about Nascar racing?
It's ok in my opinion for a guy to have an attitude, but this guy has real
mental problems....

Speed kills.....if you can't handle it.

Speed

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"Tony" <tdale (AT) xtra (DOT) co.nz> wrote in
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AGREED
He is my No.2 driver and i AGREE

You agree with what, top poster? Nobody can figure out what the hell you
agree with.

#27

I am not ashamed but here is my take...
I agree with the payback but not the extreme of it he should not have pushed
him all the way down to the grass but should have pushed him below the
yellow...

I am a Tony Stewart fan and hate Matt Kensith but as stated he should have
not been so extreme...

Now for all of you cry babys, it's racing I think there are to many fucking
rule's as it is and take away the restrictor plates that slow you down the
point of racing is to go FAST......

And yes I am a top poster you don't like it Fuck Off

--
ZÿRiX (<>..<>)

TS #20 Fan

"elaich" <a@b.c> wrote

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Cal Vanize <forgetthespam (AT) nospamhere (DOT) au> wrote in
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That's not exactly what he said.

Nah. "He got what was coming to him" didn't at all imply malice.

Not even the most diehard Stewart fan could look at that and say it wasn't
intentional. You'd have to be blind not to see it.

My best friend is a diehard Tony fan, and he arrived this morning saying
he
is ashamed to wear Tony's hat now.

#28

"Speeed Racer!" <wedontneedanysteenkingrelpies (AT) whodat (DOT) org> wrote

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Earnhardt didn't wreck people 'cause they raced close to him, he
understood
the difference between close quarters & a cheap shot.
You are comparing apples to bowling balls.

You better ask Terry Labonte about that one.

Carey in Manvel

#29

"SimRacer" <nOspaM@simracer68 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

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But what? He tried to bang in and damage the 17's sheet metal. They hooked
up, and they both got down onto the apron/grass. Granted, it was a dumb
move
on the 20's part, but the outcome was not what Tony was intending I
imagine.

To me, it looked like a block gone wrong.

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Were you in the 20 car? Then how do YOU know that TONY knew that the 17
hadn't done something to loosen him up? Us at home saw, and knew, but last
time I checked, there weren't TVs in the race cars.

And don't think for a minute that the TV folks will get every nudge, tap or
shunt on tape. There is a whole lot going on out on the track that never
gets broadcast. The camera has a very narrow field of view.

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Where, oh Brilliant One, are the yield signs on Daytona's high banks? Tony
had control of his car, Jeff admittedly didn't, and you want this one all
on
Tony? Grow up. You think TS did that on purpose? Sure, wreck his chance to
win the 500 by purposely misjudging the outcome of a slide job, uh-huh,
rigggght. Your perception (or lack of, more accurately) is absolutely
astounding.

That move really reminded me of the TS of the old USAC days. Tony was the
LAST guy I would ever want to put a slide job on, since he NEVER backs out.
And, after the slide job, when he gets wrecked (sometimes along with the
other car) he openly whines about it. Danny Drinan's career was arguably
effected by his putting a slide job on Tony at IRP. He (Drinan) did lose
his sponsorship deal over the incident. In another situation, at Terre
Haute, Kenny Irwin (in a team car) put a slide job on Tony for the lead,
Tony didn't back out and both cars were done for the night.

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Tony was the only one rubbing people Sunday? My Tivo must be borked, I saw
most people doing this myself, but if you want to harp on one person, then
go ahead, display your stupidity at will.

Needless to say, I dislike the whole deal of NASCAR making decisions to
penalize drivers for "aggressive driving". There are no standards used to
make a decision. Subjective actions by a governing body are only acceptible
in gymnastics and skating (since I don't follow either, I don't care).

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Down to the personal attacks I see. Couldn't make a single point in that
ranting, no-paragraph forming diatribe above, so it has to stoop to the
personal attacks....Figures.

It is the best way to continue an argument when you have run out of anything
concrete to say/write.

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Carey in Manvel

#30

Where he said Matt started it, he finshed it? I missed where he said I
WRECKED HIM ON PURPOSE.

"elaich" <a@b.c> wrote

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"20_2x_Champ" <nojcrap (AT) home (DOT) com> wrote in news:UJsKf.326$1B2.234 (AT) fe07 (DOT) lga:

Can you post a link to where he said "I wrecked the 17 on purpose?"

How about the post race interview?