"RickyBobby" <nascar42 (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote in
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We've been thru this any number of times, so I'll confine myself
to saying your list is way too heavy on modern day drivers, and
light on the early days. Where's Herb Thomas? Fred Lorenzen?
Joe Weatherly? Tim Flock? Fireball Roberts?

Incidently, while I would not put Davey Allison on such a list
(or even in the top 20), you could at least spell his name right.

John

"John McCoy" <igopogo (AT) ix (DOT) netcom.com> wrote

I have searched the internet and I have found Davey Davy Allison's name
splet both ways many times.

The names you brought up such as Herb Thomas, Fred Lorenzen, Joe Weatherly,
Tim Flock, and Fireball Roberts are not recognized in 2009.

I appreciate that fact that you are a fan so I will not bust on you.

"RickyBobby" <nascar42 (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote in
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You mean you've found it misspelt many times. It's Davey with
an "e".

Umm, you started your post "from 1949 to the present". That
implies you intended to include the great drivers from the
early years.

John

"John McCoy" <igopogo (AT) ix (DOT) netcom.com> wrote

They were not that great. They were tow truck drivers.

"RickyBobby" <nascar42 (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote in news:YS2wm.7561$bP1.563
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Does that make them better or worse than Benny Parsons (a cab
driver by career?

John

On Sep 28, 11:48 am, Vandar <vanda... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
You are correct. I looked it up and found:

YEAR OLD CHASE
2004 JG KB
2005 TS TS
2006 JJ JJ
2007 JG JJ
2008 CE JJ

-Rick

In article Vandar <vandar69 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Bullshit.
Winning the title is as easy, or as hard, for everyone competing for it.
If it was easy to win, Johnson wouldn't have 3 in a row, and maybe 4..
The chase has nothing to do with making it easier, or harder.
It's the same for all. It's hard.
Personally, I think JJ has the personality of a rock.
I'm no huge fan.
But team 48 is absolutely the best out there right now
for bringing home the bacon.
to say that somehow their titles are less meaningful than say
Benny Parsons', who rarely finished on the lead lap, is a joke.
Or some of Richard Petty's, when he was one of 2 or3 that ran all the races.

There aren't many sports that crown the champion based on
the best record for the entire season.

Chuck Steak wrote:
I didn't say it was easy, only less meaningful.

He's the first to admit it. It's what he has to portray for the cameras
because that's what his sponsors want.

In the last 10 races of the season, yes. Over the course of the entire
season, nope.

Finished on the lead lap? When did that enter the equation?

NASCAR never did either. Just look at the year BP won his title. That
year, Richard Petty had 6 wins, 15 top 5s, and 17 top 10s with an
average finish of 10.9. James Hylton had zero wins, one top 5, and 11
top 10s with an average finish of 13.2 and finished higher in the points
than Petty.

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:48:28 -0400, Vandar wrote:

now that would be great, a chumpion without winning a race.

In article Vandar <vandar69 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

I think the implication you present goes hand in hand.
I just don't get what you mean.
How is it less meaningful?
The 48 works very hard at winning championships.
They stay in the top 12 the first 26, and try things to get better in the
final 10. That's how you do it.
Everyone has the same op. They are just better at it.
If tomorrow, they went back to the old system, or any system,
the 48 would still be a favorite. And likely could win.

I guess I wasn't clear enough.
My point was, that the year Benny won, he rarely finished on
the lead lap.. yet won the title.
To me, that's really lame.
I would have been sort of embarassed.