"Cal Vanize" <forgetthespam (AT) nospamhere (DOT) au> wrote

Be a little more specific please. We all know that the oversized tire stems
only help on the left side tires. They create the needed added drag to help
the car turn left and the extra size increases left side body weight.

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"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE (AT) alltel (DOT) net> wrote

the reaction to the centrifugal force on the oversized tire stems. This is
an effect that is often overlooked in making the analysis.

Carey in Manvel

On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 10:33:12 -0500, "Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE (AT) alltel (DOT) net>
wrote:

I was reading an article just today where they mentioned JJ didn't even have
to go to his backup car. He won in the exact same car that got Knaus
suspended.

I assume they at least had to fix the windshield.
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"There would be a lot more civility in this world if people
didn't take that as an invitation to walk all over you"
(Calvin and Hobbes)

They removed the illegal device; JJ's car passed a 3-hour post-race
inspection yesterday, so good for JJ!

N.

On 20 Feb 2006 09:38:51 -0800, "Nancy1" <nancy-dooley (AT) uiowa (DOT) edu> wrote:

Sure, but the point was that the cheating didn't even get JJ penalized where
he'd have to use his backup car. Now I see where he's taken offense at
comments that Newman made about a spectre of cheating hanging over the 48. I
think Newman had a point. This is like Johnson's last 3 -4 wins that have
had problems with that whether it be the deal with the shocks or whatever.

I'm all for teams and crew chiefs working hard to push the envelope of
what's legal but If Johnson doesn't like that people think that about his
team, they shouldn't outright cheat.
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"There would be a lot more civility in this world if people
didn't take that as an invitation to walk all over you"
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Mike Marlow wrote:
Like having a "backup girlfriend" in college. The backups also had boobs
and vaginas - you just had to tell them how your liked your BJ's. :-)

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"EGK" <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote


Nope - exact same windshield configuration that they qualified in.

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all right - nobody like a wise guy...

"EGK" <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote

From what I've heard it was a tube that sat on the track bar or someting
like that & the adjusting screw ran thru it. It ran from the bar up to the
bottom edge of the back window/sheet metal area. After they went thru
prerace inspection they were allowed to raise the track bar (which they left
low on purpose) up to specs. When the track bar raised, the tube pushed up
on the bottom of the back glass area, raising it.

The device was removed from the car & placed on the "NASCAR table of shame"
in the garage area for all to see. Once the device was removed, the car was
legal & there was no reason to go to a back. In Stewarts case awhile back,
the whole back glass was out of whack & I don't think NA$CAR ever could
figure out how it was done, so they took the whole car.


I also had heard that many teams were working in this area, trying to figure
how to take air off of the spoiler. The #48 team took it too far & needs to
be whacked by NA$CAR.

"F.A.D.E.Jr." <FADE (AT) JrSux (DOT) com> wrote

I don't know what the pre-race inspection requirements are in detail, but I
don't believe there would be a track bar spec, therefore no such thing as
being allowed to raise the track bar up to spec. If there were such a spec,
it would be required to meet that spec *during* the inspection, not
afterwards. Raising and lowering a trackbar is a handling adjustment that
is (as far as I know) unregulated by NASCAR. You can - and teams indeed
have with very poor handling cars - completely remove the connecting
chain/link on the track bar.

It's quite possible that they left is lower for the inspection and then
brought it back up to where - or near to where they would need it after the
inspection, but that's not something NASCAR would "allow" them to do, to
bring it up to a spec.

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SG wrote:

True, they only confiscate teh car for such a blatent cheating infraction if
it is owned by Ganassi or Gibbs. (By the way, I don't think either of
those deals resulted in any proof that there was cheating going on)

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Mike