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Robby Gordon is a clown!
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Re: Robby Gordon is a clown! -
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Alan Jones <ajones (AT) sportswriterusa (DOT) com> wrote in news:j6cab3limecbfdq9g53vhqmomnkt6ggea3 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com: Looked to me like he was throwing a tantrum. Doing burnouts while Harvick was celebrating his win seemed unnecessary, excessive. Notice he actually tried to drive into Victory Lane but a swarm of NASCAR officials stopped him. |
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Next time someone doesn't want to get in line: 1. Throw a red flag. 2. When Robby stops, pull his hood pins and remove his distributor. 3. Road course, local yellow for the rest of the race--Oval, call a wrecker. Sure, Robby may have a beef and NA$CAR is Orwellian, but this was pathetic. |
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"Alan Jones" <ajo... (AT) sportswriterusa (DOT) com> wrote in message news:5e8ab3lmop2fc45o6gbd4m8lp5v021atd7 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... What has happened to the integrity of our society when we think someone being a jerk is refreshing and just that person being real. Whatever happened to being a good person, a good sport, and role model for our youth. (shakes head) Nice post. There used to be "good guys". I think they're still around. |
of integrity you have to also call into question Nascar's integrity.
Robby raced Ambrose clean. He made a clean pass. Maybe Ambrose
didn't see the yellow. If Robby lifted when the yellow was out that
is exactly what he is should do under the current rules. If Ambrose
didn't see they yellow, why not. Robby did. If he did and didn't
lift as he should have, he finished higher than he should have. No I
don't think he wrecked Robby intentionally. Yet he is a younger
driver that may be in over his head, and then again it could have been
one of those racin deals.
Nascar is under a legal obligation to treat all teams equally as a
part of conducting a race. There have been times in the past where
the right thing was done. When situations like that have occurred in
the past, the position was given back. When the yellow came out the
field was frozen and he was either first or second depending on when
you consider it to have come out. Fact he gave up positions only
because he was wrecked due to no fault of his own and was able to
maintain pace after the field cleared. He could have maintained the
pace so to speak, and not lost so many positions, but caused another
wreck.
Up until this point, NASCAR was totally in the wrong. I don't blame
Robby for not going back so far. I don't blame him for starting in
the second spot in that if he were going to appeal, moving back would
make it a moot point. For it to have any meaning he had to cross the
line first, which he did. Though I don't condone him punting Ambrose,
I can understand why he did it. He knew an appeal was going to have
little chance of being successful. He also knew that if he passed him
clean that the punter was going to be rewarded with a win they didn't
deserve.
Was he wrong? Well thats for each to decide for themselves, but I
sure understand why he did it. Yet I don't buy the role model
argument in any situation on TV. The real role model is the parent.
If you don't want your kid to behave like Robby did, sit down and
explain to him why you don't. If you see someone that you do want to
use as an example of how you want your child to behave, sit down and
explain that to them too. Both provide excellent teaching
opportunities, but only the real role models can do that and that's
the parents. Any kid learning right from wrong from TV alone is in
deep trouble no matter what you put on TV.
It will be interesting to see how hard Nascar comes down on Robby. I
heard he tried to get into victory lane. Notice as soon as he punted
Ambrose, Espn refused to put the car on air, which told me Nascar had
already called. I am not so sure that at 1 mph no matter who was
telling me not to, if I were in that situation, I might be in victory
lane and the TV show would have to be moved.
Robby may be in an interesting position. He is in his mid 40s. The
business of Nascar is going to phase his teams out soon anyway. His
driving days are numbered by age. If they came down too hard on me, I
would be very tempted to retire from Cup racing an take it to court
with damages so high it would make their head swim. Win or not, every
entertainment yellow could be called into question and the PR hit to
Nascar would be devastating. Robby may not do it, but sooner or later
someone will. Race finishes have been decided in court before. Just
ask Mario Andretti and Bobby Unser.
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On Aug 4, 8:34 pm, "Kar" <cudighi... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: "Alan Jones" <ajo... (AT) sportswriterusa (DOT) com> wrote in message news:5e8ab3lmop2fc45o6gbd4m8lp5v021atd7 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... What has happened to the integrity of our society when we think someone being a jerk is refreshing and just that person being real. Whatever happened to being a good person, a good sport, and role model for our youth. (shakes head) Nice post. There used to be "good guys". I think they're still around. Frankly this time the good guy might have been Robby. When you talk of integrity you have to also call into question Nascar's integrity. Robby raced Ambrose clean. He made a clean pass. Maybe Ambrose didn't see the yellow. If Robby lifted when the yellow was out that is exactly what he is should do under the current rules. If Ambrose didn't see they yellow, why not. Robby did. If he did and didn't lift as he should have, he finished higher than he should have. No I don't think he wrecked Robby intentionally. Yet he is a younger driver that may be in over his head, and then again it could have been one of those racin deals. Nascar is under a legal obligation to treat all teams equally as a part of conducting a race. There have been times in the past where the right thing was done. When situations like that have occurred in the past, the position was given back. When the yellow came out the field was frozen and he was either first or second depending on when you consider it to have come out. Fact he gave up positions only because he was wrecked due to no fault of his own and was able to maintain pace after the field cleared. He could have maintained the pace so to speak, and not lost so many positions, but caused another wreck. Up until this point, NASCAR was totally in the wrong. I don't blame Robby for not going back so far. I don't blame him for starting in the second spot in that if he were going to appeal, moving back would make it a moot point. For it to have any meaning he had to cross the line first, which he did. Though I don't condone him punting Ambrose, I can understand why he did it. He knew an appeal was going to have little chance of being successful. He also knew that if he passed him clean that the punter was going to be rewarded with a win they didn't deserve. Was he wrong? Well thats for each to decide for themselves, but I sure understand why he did it. Yet I don't buy the role model argument in any situation on TV. The real role model is the parent. If you don't want your kid to behave like Robby did, sit down and explain to him why you don't. If you see someone that you do want to use as an example of how you want your child to behave, sit down and explain that to them too. Both provide excellent teaching opportunities, but only the real role models can do that and that's the parents. Any kid learning right from wrong from TV alone is in deep trouble no matter what you put on TV. It will be interesting to see how hard Nascar comes down on Robby. I heard he tried to get into victory lane. Notice as soon as he punted Ambrose, Espn refused to put the car on air, which told me Nascar had already called. I am not so sure that at 1 mph no matter who was telling me not to, if I were in that situation, I might be in victory lane and the TV show would have to be moved. Robby may be in an interesting position. He is in his mid 40s. The business of Nascar is going to phase his teams out soon anyway. His driving days are numbered by age. If they came down too hard on me, I would be very tempted to retire from Cup racing an take it to court with damages so high it would make their head swim. Win or not, every entertainment yellow could be called into question and the PR hit to Nascar would be devastating. Robby may not do it, but sooner or later someone will. Race finishes have been decided in court before. Just ask Mario Andretti and Bobby Unser. |
and raced cleanly to the finish. He was bangin into Ambrose the whole
time under caution laps. It appeared he was fuming at Ambrose as much
as any body. But he didnt choose to race cleanly, he chose to behave
like a dickhead.
Also judging from the back of Ambose's car, Gordon pushed him out of
the way to take the lead any way.
Everything points to Gordon behaving like a fool.
In Australia he'd be known as a wanker.
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I don't think he was being a jerk. I think he was just pissed. He felt like he got screwed and stood his ground. |
have the judgement capability to determine whether he was "screwed",
so he reaches an inappropriate conclusion and the upshot is that he
acted like a jerk.
John
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robby gordon was in first when the yellow came out. |
from 2nd to 1st after the yellow came out.
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On Aug 4, 8:34 pm, "Kar" <cudighi... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: "Alan Jones" <ajo... (AT) sportswriterusa (DOT) com> wrote in message news:5e8ab3lmop2fc45o6gbd4m8lp5v021atd7 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... What has happened to the integrity of our society when we think someone being a jerk is refreshing and just that person being real. Whatever happened to being a good person, a good sport, and role model for our youth. (shakes head) Nice post. There used to be "good guys". I think they're still around. Frankly this time the good guy might have been Robby. When you talk of integrity you have to also call into question Nascar's integrity. Robby raced Ambrose clean. He made a clean pass. Maybe Ambrose didn't see the yellow. If Robby lifted when the yellow was out that is exactly what he is should do under the current rules. If Ambrose didn't see they yellow, why not. Robby did. If he did and didn't lift as he should have, he finished higher than he should have. No I don't think he wrecked Robby intentionally. Yet he is a younger driver that may be in over his head, and then again it could have been one of those racin deals. |
flagged. He broke numerous rules and any penalties "detrimental to
NASCAR" will be because of that. It isn't the first time a bad call
happened in NASCAR and it won't be the last.
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Nascar is under a legal obligation to treat all teams equally as a part of conducting a race. There have been times in the past where the right thing was done. When situations like that have occurred in the past, the position was given back. When the yellow came out the field was frozen and he was either first or second depending on when you consider it to have come out. Fact he gave up positions only because he was wrecked due to no fault of his own and was able to maintain pace after the field cleared. He could have maintained the pace so to speak, and not lost so many positions, but caused another wreck. Up until this point, NASCAR was totally in the wrong. I don't blame Robby for not going back so far. I don't blame him for starting in the second spot in that if he were going to appeal, moving back would make it a moot point. For it to have any meaning he had to cross the line first, which he did. Though I don't condone him punting Ambrose, I can understand why he did it. He knew an appeal was going to have little chance of being successful. He also knew that if he passed him clean that the punter was going to be rewarded with a win they didn't deserve. Was he wrong? Well thats for each to decide for themselves, but I sure understand why he did it. Yet I don't buy the role model argument in any situation on TV. The real role model is the parent. If you don't want your kid to behave like Robby did, sit down and explain to him why you don't. If you see someone that you do want to use as an example of how you want your child to behave, sit down and explain that to them too. Both provide excellent teaching opportunities, but only the real role models can do that and that's the parents. Any kid learning right from wrong from TV alone is in deep trouble no matter what you put on TV. It will be interesting to see how hard Nascar comes down on Robby. I heard he tried to get into victory lane. Notice as soon as he punted Ambrose, Espn refused to put the car on air, which told me Nascar had already called. I am not so sure that at 1 mph no matter who was telling me not to, if I were in that situation, I might be in victory lane and the TV show would have to be moved. Robby may be in an interesting position. He is in his mid 40s. The business of Nascar is going to phase his teams out soon anyway. His driving days are numbered by age. If they came down too hard on me, I would be very tempted to retire from Cup racing an take it to court with damages so high it would make their head swim. Win or not, every entertainment yellow could be called into question and the PR hit to Nascar would be devastating. Robby may not do it, but sooner or later someone will. Race finishes have been decided in court before. Just ask Mario Andretti and Bobby Unser. |
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On Aug 5, 1:43 pm, Mark <mblackwell1... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: On Aug 4, 8:34 pm, "Kar" <cudighi... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: "Alan Jones" <ajo... (AT) sportswriterusa (DOT) com> wrote in message news:5e8ab3lmop2fc45o6gbd4m8lp5v021atd7 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... What has happened to the integrity of our society when we think someone being a jerk is refreshing and just that person being real. Whatever happened to being a good person, a good sport, and role model for our youth. (shakes head) Nice post. There used to be "good guys". I think they're still around. Frankly this time the good guy might have been Robby. When you talk of integrity you have to also call into question Nascar's integrity. Robby raced Ambrose clean. He made a clean pass. Maybe Ambrose didn't see the yellow. If Robby lifted when the yellow was out that is exactly what he is should do under the current rules. If Ambrose didn't see they yellow, why not. Robby did. If he did and didn't lift as he should have, he finished higher than he should have. No I don't think he wrecked Robby intentionally. Yet he is a younger driver that may be in over his head, and then again it could have been one of those racin deals. Nascar is under a legal obligation to treat all teams equally as a part of conducting a race. There have been times in the past where the right thing was done. When situations like that have occurred in the past, the position was given back. When the yellow came out the field was frozen and he was either first or second depending on when you consider it to have come out. Fact he gave up positions only because he was wrecked due to no fault of his own and was able to maintain pace after the field cleared. He could have maintained the pace so to speak, and not lost so many positions, but caused another wreck. Up until this point, NASCAR was totally in the wrong. I don't blame Robby for not going back so far. I don't blame him for starting in the second spot in that if he were going to appeal, moving back would make it a moot point. For it to have any meaning he had to cross the line first, which he did. Though I don't condone him punting Ambrose, I can understand why he did it. He knew an appeal was going to have little chance of being successful. He also knew that if he passed him clean that the punter was going to be rewarded with a win they didn't deserve. Was he wrong? Well thats for each to decide for themselves, but I sure understand why he did it. Yet I don't buy the role model argument in any situation on TV. The real role model is the parent. If you don't want your kid to behave like Robby did, sit down and explain to him why you don't. If you see someone that you do want to use as an example of how you want your child to behave, sit down and explain that to them too. Both provide excellent teaching opportunities, but only the real role models can do that and that's the parents. Any kid learning right from wrong from TV alone is in deep trouble no matter what you put on TV. It will be interesting to see how hard Nascar comes down on Robby. I heard he tried to get into victory lane. Notice as soon as he punted Ambrose, Espn refused to put the car on air, which told me Nascar had already called. I am not so sure that at 1 mph no matter who was telling me not to, if I were in that situation, I might be in victory lane and the TV show would have to be moved. Robby may be in an interesting position. He is in his mid 40s. The business of Nascar is going to phase his teams out soon anyway. His driving days are numbered by age. If they came down too hard on me, I would be very tempted to retire from Cup racing an take it to court with damages so high it would make their head swim. Win or not, every entertainment yellow could be called into question and the PR hit to Nascar would be devastating. Robby may not do it, but sooner or later someone will. Race finishes have been decided in court before. Just ask Mario Andretti and Bobby Unser. If Gordon wanted to make his point he could have stayed in 2nd place and raced cleanly to the finish. He was bangin into Ambrose the whole time under caution laps. It appeared he was fuming at Ambrose as much as any body. But he didnt choose to race cleanly, he chose to behave like a dickhead. Also judging from the back of Ambose's car, Gordon pushed him out of the way to take the lead any way. |
right before the pass, there was no damage to Ambrose's car.
Nice debut for NASCAR, lol
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Everything points to Gordon behaving like a fool. In Australia he'd be known as a wanker. |
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On Aug 4, 9:45 pm, Joe <noem... (AT) here (DOT) org> wrote: Alan Jones <ajo... (AT) sportswriterusa (DOT) com> wrote innews:j6cab3limecbfdq9g53vhqmomnkt6ggea3 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com: Looked to me like he was throwing a tantrum. Doing burnouts while Harvick was celebrating his win seemed unnecessary, excessive. Notice he actually tried to drive into Victory Lane but a swarm of NASCAR officials stopped him. Next time someone doesn't want to get in line: 1. Throw a red flag. 2. When Robby stops, pull his hood pins and remove his distributor. 3. Road course, local yellow for the rest of the race--Oval, call a wrecker. Sure, Robby may have a beef and NA$CAR is Orwellian, but this was pathetic. |
if NASCAR is dumb enough to let this piece of work continue to race in
NASCAR. Kind of like a DUI breathalyzer to start your car.
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Also judging from the back of Ambose's car, Gordon pushed him out of the way to take the lead any way. |
Two points...
1 - Since when is contact prohibited by NASCAR?
2 - The damage was judged minimal and the cause inconclusive.
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Everything points to Gordon behaving like a fool. In Australia he'd be known as a wanker. |
In NASCAR, that's known as competitive spirit.
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