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Bow Tie dominance... -
04-16-2007
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after yet another dominating performance by the bowtie brigade...how much longer will it take for Na$car to step in like they did in the truck series and mandate a change unless the few laps the blue deuce led yesterday counts as parity. if it was Toyota teams dominating these races,would it then be a time for a change? |
Kenseth is ruining it for all of the other Fords.
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after yet another dominating performance by the bowtie brigade...how much longer will it take for Na$car to step in like they did in the truck series and mandate a change unless the few laps the blue deuce led yesterday counts as parity. if it was Toyota teams dominating these races,would it then be a time for a change? mike......... |
teams. That's a fat load of crap. Mark Martin is having a great season
running for a *second tier* Chevy team. Probably a better start than he ever
had at Roush. Imagine how big of a point lead Matt Kenseth would have now if
he were driving a Chevy.
And as if Chevy weren't dominating enough, Nascar lets them have a new
engine design on top of it all. Sheesh.
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"JerseyMike" <clamdigger724 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:PuMUh.49921$VU4.9705 (AT) bgtnsc05-news (DOT) ops.worldnet.att.net... after yet another dominating performance by the bowtie brigade...how much longer will it take for Na$car to step in like they did in the truck series and mandate a change unless the few laps the blue deuce led yesterday counts as parity. if it was Toyota teams dominating these races,would it then be a time for a change? mike......... All the Chevy fans will tell you its because most of the top teams are Chevy teams. That's a fat load of crap. Mark Martin is having a great season running for a *second tier* Chevy team. Probably a better start than he ever had at Roush. Imagine how big of a point lead Matt Kenseth would have now if he were driving a Chevy. And as if Chevy weren't dominating enough, Nascar lets them have a new engine design on top of it all. Sheesh. |
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-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE (AT) alltel (DOT) net
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"armpit" <armarmpitpit (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:2pidnUTDLP7eAr7bnZ2dnUVZ_v-tnZ2d (AT) giganews (DOT) com... "JerseyMike" <clamdigger724 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:PuMUh.49921$VU4.9705 (AT) bgtnsc05-news (DOT) ops.worldnet.att.net... after yet another dominating performance by the bowtie brigade...how much longer will it take for Na$car to step in like they did in the truck series and mandate a change unless the few laps the blue deuce led yesterday counts as parity. if it was Toyota teams dominating these races,would it then be a time for a change? mike......... All the Chevy fans will tell you its because most of the top teams are Chevy teams. That's a fat load of crap. Mark Martin is having a great season running for a *second tier* Chevy team. Probably a better start than he ever had at Roush. Imagine how big of a point lead Matt Kenseth would have now if he were driving a Chevy. And as if Chevy weren't dominating enough, Nascar lets them have a new engine design on top of it all. Sheesh. Ok... so what is Chevy's advantage? HP? Nope. |
curve, and NASCAR doesn't release that data when they dyno the engines.
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Aero? Nope. |
finally remove that bonus, but until they go to a common engine, Chevy will
always have a gifted advantage. They've had it for years & years.
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"Mike Marlow" <mmarlow (AT) alltel (DOT) net> wrote in message news:4ef57$4623aab2$4b58a657$31162 (AT) ALLTEL (DOT) NET... "armpit" <armarmpitpit (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:2pidnUTDLP7eAr7bnZ2dnUVZ_v-tnZ2d (AT) giganews (DOT) com... "JerseyMike" <clamdigger724 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:PuMUh.49921$VU4.9705 (AT) bgtnsc05-news (DOT) ops.worldnet.att.net... after yet another dominating performance by the bowtie brigade...how much longer will it take for Na$car to step in like they did in the truck series and mandate a change unless the few laps the blue deuce led yesterday counts as parity. if it was Toyota teams dominating these races,would it then be a time for a change? mike......... All the Chevy fans will tell you its because most of the top teams are Chevy teams. That's a fat load of crap. Mark Martin is having a great season running for a *second tier* Chevy team. Probably a better start than he ever had at Roush. Imagine how big of a point lead Matt Kenseth would have now if he were driving a Chevy. And as if Chevy weren't dominating enough, Nascar lets them have a new engine design on top of it all. Sheesh. Ok... so what is Chevy's advantage? HP? Nope. How do you know? Peak HP ain't everything. It's all about the area under the curve, and NASCAR doesn't release that data when they dyno the engines. Aero? Nope. Again, how do you know? They don't use all the same templates. The CoT will finally remove that bonus, but until they go to a common engine, Chevy will always have a gifted advantage. They've had it for years & years. |
i support the safety issues they are trying to engage, but not the
templates.
the only advantage that Chevy has is that they actually try and manufacter a
car that can be competitive in CUP.
mike.......
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"armpit" <armarmpit... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:ap-dnVYLi7u2ML7bnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d (AT) giganews (DOT) com... "Mike Marlow" <mmar... (AT) alltel (DOT) net> wrote in message news:4ef57$4623aab2$4b58a657$31162 (AT) ALLTEL (DOT) NET... "armpit" <armarmpit... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:2pidnUTDLP7eAr7bnZ2dnUVZ_v-tnZ2d (AT) giganews (DOT) com... "JerseyMike" <clamdigger... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:PuMUh.49921$VU4.9705 (AT) bgtnsc05-news (DOT) ops.worldnet.att.net... after yet another dominating performance by the bowtie brigade...how much longer will it take for Na$car to step in like they did in the truck series and mandate a change unless the few laps the blue deuce led yesterday counts as parity. if it was Toyota teams dominating these races,would it then be a time for a change? mike......... All the Chevy fans will tell you its because most of the top teams are Chevy teams. That's a fat load of crap. Mark Martin is having a great season running for a *second tier* Chevy team. Probably a better start than he ever had at Roush. Imagine how big of a point lead Matt Kenseth would have now if he were driving a Chevy. And as if Chevy weren't dominating enough, Nascar lets them have a new engine design on top of it all. Sheesh. Ok... so what is Chevy's advantage? HP? Nope. How do you know? Peak HP ain't everything. It's all about the area under the curve, and NASCAR doesn't release that data when they dyno the engines. Aero? Nope. Again, how do you know? They don't use all the same templates. The CoT will finally remove that bonus, but until they go to a common engine, Chevy will always have a gifted advantage. They've had it for years & years. so are you a supporter of the COT for the common template? i support the safety issues they are trying to engage, but not the templates. the only advantage that Chevy has is that they actually try and manufacter a car that can be competitive in CUP. |
So you can go down to your local Chevy dealership and buy an exact
copy of a Nextel Cup car?
Do the Chevy race teams buy their race cars directly from Chevrolet?
Wow, that's news. For years we have been told that the teams built
these cars by hand, and that the engines were about the only thing the
manufacturer had actually manufactured. How did you get the memo that
everyone else didn't?
Face it, NASCRAP has tilted the field in favor of Chevy, and have done
so for decades. Hell, they went so far as to make the Dodge teams re-
engineer their engines to a Chevy type design.
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"Mike Marlow" <mmarlow (AT) alltel (DOT) net> wrote in message news:4ef57$4623aab2$4b58a657$31162 (AT) ALLTEL (DOT) NET... "armpit" <armarmpitpit (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:2pidnUTDLP7eAr7bnZ2dnUVZ_v-tnZ2d (AT) giganews (DOT) com... "JerseyMike" <clamdigger724 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:PuMUh.49921$VU4.9705 (AT) bgtnsc05-news (DOT) ops.worldnet.att.net... after yet another dominating performance by the bowtie brigade...how much longer will it take for Na$car to step in like they did in the truck series and mandate a change unless the few laps the blue deuce led yesterday counts as parity. if it was Toyota teams dominating these races,would it then be a time for a change? mike......... All the Chevy fans will tell you its because most of the top teams are Chevy teams. That's a fat load of crap. Mark Martin is having a great season running for a *second tier* Chevy team. Probably a better start than he ever had at Roush. Imagine how big of a point lead Matt Kenseth would have now if he were driving a Chevy. And as if Chevy weren't dominating enough, Nascar lets them have a new engine design on top of it all. Sheesh. Ok... so what is Chevy's advantage? HP? Nope. How do you know? Peak HP ain't everything. It's all about the area under the curve, and NASCAR doesn't release that data when they dyno the engines. Aero? Nope. Again, how do you know? They don't use all the same templates. The CoT will finally remove that bonus, but until they go to a common engine, Chevy will always have a gifted advantage. They've had it for years & years. Could it be possible that Chevy has the best drivers? |
And if 1 of the Top3 Best year after year MKenseth joined Chevy
like MMartin, the rest of the makes wouldn't ever win.
CRU
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"armpit" <armarmpitpit (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:ap-dnVYLi7u2ML7bnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d (AT) giganews (DOT) com... "Mike Marlow" <mmarlow (AT) alltel (DOT) net> wrote in message news:4ef57$4623aab2$4b58a657$31162 (AT) ALLTEL (DOT) NET... "armpit" <armarmpitpit (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:2pidnUTDLP7eAr7bnZ2dnUVZ_v-tnZ2d (AT) giganews (DOT) com... "JerseyMike" <clamdigger724 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:PuMUh.49921$VU4.9705 (AT) bgtnsc05-news (DOT) ops.worldnet.att.net... after yet another dominating performance by the bowtie brigade...how much longer will it take for Na$car to step in like they did in the truck series and mandate a change unless the few laps the blue deuce led yesterday counts as parity. if it was Toyota teams dominating these races,would it then be a time for a change? mike......... All the Chevy fans will tell you its because most of the top teams are Chevy teams. That's a fat load of crap. Mark Martin is having a great season running for a *second tier* Chevy team. Probably a better start than he ever had at Roush. Imagine how big of a point lead Matt Kenseth would have now if he were driving a Chevy. And as if Chevy weren't dominating enough, Nascar lets them have a new engine design on top of it all. Sheesh. Ok... so what is Chevy's advantage? HP? Nope. How do you know? Peak HP ain't everything. It's all about the area under the curve, and NASCAR doesn't release that data when they dyno the engines. Aero? Nope. Again, how do you know? They don't use all the same templates. The CoT will finally remove that bonus, but until they go to a common engine, Chevy will always have a gifted advantage. They've had it for years & years. Could it be possible that Chevy has the best drivers? YES! And if 1 of the Top3 Best year after year MKenseth joined Chevy like MMartin, the rest of the makes wouldn't ever win. CRU |
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made the dodges change the bore spacing on their block from the STOCK (360 engine) from the factory bore spacing to the GM bore spacing.... and now....Now..the new Chevies engine has the old bore spacing the dodge had.....the one they had to change from..... |
More than that, they made the Dodge engine go from a big bore, short
stroke to the Chevy Small bore, long stroke, IN THE MIDDLE OF A
SEASON.
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