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Several others witnessed Jeremy's meth use?
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Re: Several others witnessed Jeremy's meth use? -
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In article <4a723204 (AT) news (DOT) x-privat.org>, "Chad" <cbstun (AT) safemail (DOT) com> wrote: "Chuck Steak" <Chuck_Steak (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message news:WVpcm.1775$646.1391 (AT) nwrddc01 (DOT) gnilink.net... In article A. Jones <ajones (AT) intrtek (DOT) com> wrote: So what if JPM was over the limit by one tenth of a MPH. How many others get away with the same infraction when it's convenient. So you're thinking on the lines of, there is only one computer at the track that monitors speeds. All of the other computers on the pit boxes give all the race information, except, pit road speeds.. Really?!? I heard France point out that the pit speed alert flashes up on a computer in the box "that everyone can see" and kind of wondered at the time who "everyone" might be. Pit road speed data would be very useful for all the teams and transparency. They even mentioned Montoya was pushing it, if he had known that during previous stops the error may never have occurred. Chad I'm sorry, Chad, that wasn't written too clearly, I guess. I was jokingly writing what I thought AJ was thinking. That one NASCAR official, has the only computer with the speeds on it, and he is in a locked closet, and no one else is allowed to see that information. That everyone elses computers showing race data had some sort of filter on it. Which is ridiculous. Dan |
Why would Chad Knaus state this week that he would like to see
pit road speeds be made available to all participants?
Apparently those speeds are not available to all, eh?
CRU
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"Chuck Steak" <Chuck_St... (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message news:Y7Ccm.3$Jg.2 (AT) nwrddc01 (DOT) gnilink.net... In article <4a723... (AT) news (DOT) x-privat.org>, "Chad" <cbs... (AT) safemail (DOT) com> wrote: "Chuck Steak" <Chuck_St... (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message news:WVpcm.1775$646.1391 (AT) nwrddc01 (DOT) gnilink.net... In article *A. Jones <ajo... (AT) intrtek (DOT) com> wrote: So what if JPM was over the limit by one tenth of a MPH. How many others get away with the same infraction when it's convenient. So you're thinking on the lines of, there is only one computer at the track that monitors speeds. All of the other computers on the pit boxes give all the race information, except, pit road speeds.. Really?!? I heard France point out that the pit speed alert flashes up on a computer in the box "that everyone can see" and kind of wondered at the time who "everyone" might be. Pit road speed data would be very useful for all the teams and transparency. They even mentioned Montoya was pushing it, if he had known that during previous stops the error may never have occurred. Chad I'm sorry, Chad, that wasn't written too clearly, I guess. I was jokingly writing what I thought AJ was thinking. That one NASCAR official, has the only computer with the speeds on it, and he is in a locked closet, and no one else is allowed to see that information. That everyone elses computers showing race data had some sort of filter on it. Which is ridiculous. Dan Why would Chad Knaus state this week that he would like to see pit road speeds be made available to all participants? Apparently those speeds are not available to all, eh? CRU |
IMHO the speeding infraction was rigged if no one but NASCAR can see
the results in real time.
Put it on the television broadcast for all to see.
Make it a part of the journalistic process to show us who is pushing
the edge and by how close.
Otherwise it is a scam.
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Why would Chad Knaus state this week that he would like to see pit road speeds be made available to all participants? Apparently those speeds are not available to all, eh? CRU |
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No matter how much you push the envelope,
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Why would Chad Knaus state this week that he would like to see pit road speeds be made available to all participants? Apparently those speeds are not available to all, eh? |
limit, on request.
I can't really see a reason for wanting to see the speeds if you're
not in violation, unless either
a) Knaus beleives the allegation that some drivers are allowed to
speed without penalty, and beleives making the info open would
eliminate that.
or
b) he thinks the 48 team might be "leaving something on the table"
in the pits, and if he sees the data and sees they're well under
the limit, he knows he can push it a bit.
John
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"Crusader" <cru357 (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote in news:7dh36rF29740oU1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net: Why would Chad Knaus state this week that he would like to see pit road speeds be made available to all participants? Apparently those speeds are not available to all, eh? NASCAR shows them to teams that are penalized for violating the limit, on request. I can't really see a reason for wanting to see the speeds if you're not in violation, unless either a) Knaus beleives the allegation that some drivers are allowed to speed without penalty, and beleives making the info open would eliminate that. or b) he thinks the 48 team might be "leaving something on the table" in the pits, and if he sees the data and sees they're well under the limit, he knows he can push it a bit. John |
didn't you ;-)
Winning Allstate 400 crew chief Chad Knaus referred to speed limits on
pit road as "kind of a guessing game."
"I'm hoping that at some point we'll be able to see the pit-road speeds
published because that will allow us to work within limits that we're
comfortable with (and) adjust our times accordingly throughout the
events," Knaus said. "From a competitor's standpoint, if you don't know
your limits, it's difficult to know what it is. You're always going to
try to get to the top side of that limit."
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If you can't be an athlete,
be an athletic supporter.
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John McCoy wrote: "Crusader" <cru357 (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote in news:7dh36rF29740oU1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net: Why would Chad Knaus state this week that he would like to see pit road speeds be made available to all participants? Apparently those speeds are not available to all, eh? NASCAR shows them to teams that are penalized for violating the limit, on request. I can't really see a reason for wanting to see the speeds if you're not in violation, unless either a) Knaus beleives the allegation that some drivers are allowed to speed without penalty, and beleives making the info open would eliminate that. or b) he thinks the 48 team might be "leaving something on the table" in the pits, and if he sees the data and sees they're well under the limit, he knows he can push it a bit. John I would say that b) is exactly the reason: (but you read this already didn't you ;-) Winning Allstate 400 crew chief Chad Knaus referred to speed limits on pit road as "kind of a guessing game." "I'm hoping that at some point we'll be able to see the pit-road speeds published because that will allow us to work within limits that we're comfortable with (and) adjust our times accordingly throughout the events," Knaus said. "From a competitor's standpoint, if you don't know your limits, it's difficult to know what it is. You're always going to try to get to the top side of that limit." |
or sometime later, because Chad Knaus wants to squeeze out another
three tenths during green flag pit stops...
I guess the teams are often their own worst enemy. But then, that also
seems rather petty and like something which plays right into NASCAR's
manipulative hands.
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I would say that b) is exactly the reason: (but you read this already didn't you ;-) |
quick scan of the newsgroup. So I guess you have to write that one
down to a lucky guess :-)
John
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In article TS02_05champ <tonystewart02_05champ (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: Chuck Steak wrote: This situation isn't going to affect how I feel about any future accusations of anyone. We will always have our hunches on certain people/situations. I'm just saying, I wouldn't come out and take a side based on how I feel about a person too quickly, with no regard to actual evidence... or lack of it. You just open yourself up to looking bad, if your hunch was incorrect. OK Gil Grissom. I thought it was more Obi Wan Kenobi-ish. |
Guiness? Eh, not so much.
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"Chuck Steak" <Chuck_Steak (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message news:hj0cm.1558$646.1483 (AT) nwrddc01 (DOT) gnilink.net... In article TS02_05champ <tonystewart02_05champ (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: Chuck Steak wrote: This situation isn't going to affect how I feel about any future accusations of anyone. We will always have our hunches on certain people/situations. I'm just saying, I wouldn't come out and take a side based on how I feel about a person too quickly, with no regard to actual evidence... or lack of it. You just open yourself up to looking bad, if your hunch was incorrect. OK Gil Grissom. I thought it was more Obi Wan Kenobi-ish. Nah. I can easily picture William Peterson saying what you wrote. Alec Guiness? Eh, not so much. |
and a way of looking at life,
as opposed to the accurate collection of evidence..
But I can see how it could have been taken either way..
One just more deep than the other.
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No matter how much you push the envelope,
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