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Shakeup at Hendrick Motorsports
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Re: Shakeup at Hendrick Motorsports -
05-10-2007
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On Wed, 9 May 2007 12:26:01 -0400, "Tom Duwe" <tomd88 (AT) bvunet (DOT) net wrote: "Mike Smith" <mike_z (AT) excite (DOT) com> wrote in message news:b2g3431pdu3rp3bf8s80ievh4rasugnupk (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On 8 May 2007 05:52:24 -0700, joe dopebucket <joedopebucket (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote: The rumor that this scribe is hearing this morning is this....And Joonyer Nation you might want to sit down. Hendrick Motorsports is on the verge of announcing that they have reached a deal to sign Joonyer to a multi-year deal.Now this is only part of the deal.Joonyer will actually become a teamate of Jimmie Johnson who actually drives a car co-owned by Rick Hendrick and Jeff Gordon.HMS had petitioned NASCAR concerning a possible "loop hole" in the 4 car limit per team.The irony of the entire episode is the fact that Joonyer will be "owned" by Jeff Gordon.I am sure we have not heard the last of this messs..... How is it that this big, no, HUGE news isn't reported anywhere, even at the rumor mill, Jayski? Did'ja read the link there today? Mulhern's article at: http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Sa...=1037645509200 Yes, I saw this earlier. And now I see a denial at Jasykis by HMS over the whole deal. Personally, when I see Mulhern post something, I wait for comfirmation since he's usually wrong about 80% of the time on these SWAGs* he puts out. Junior has stated, live and in person on several occasions throughout the years, that YES, he and Tony Jr talk to other teams like this, usually at least once a year. He says, and I believe him (why would he lie?) that it's to find his value in the "sport itself, outside the walls of DEI" so he always has a current idea of what he is worth when it comes to negotiating or renegotiating his contracts with DEI and Bud, etc. I can't blame him since the board room at DEI appears to be such an airtight, powerful, and secretive black whole, that even light can't escape from it...Junebug was lucky just to get to BUY the rights to his own name back afterall. Just like Dean Smith was the only person to ever keep Michael Jordan under 30pts, Teresa is single-handedly preventing her premier team from having any legitimate chances at winning a Cup, IMHO of course. **IF** Joonyer leaves DEI at the end of '07, it will be to team up with RCR. Mark my words. I don't know that a #3 car is in the cards, dunno if I'd even want him to get into that much of an emotional situation, but RC has his back (JR Motorsports runs RC Racing Engines exclusively) and DEJ knows he could count on RC to give him absolutely everything that money could buy in an effort to win him a title, something that Teresa doesn't appear to be doing or even willing to do at this point. I guess no one has dared to show her the marketing upside of winning a Cup lately... *SWAG = Stupid Wild Ass Guess |
I can't imagine them being farther apart right now, too. 55 million
for a majority ownership is stupid, especially when they are talking
about merging with Yates. If that were a 100 million dollar
organization, they wouldn't be talking mergers, especially since I see
it as a buyout from Yates, moving to Ford engines. It could be no
other way with Yates making engines for so many teams.
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"SimRacer" <NOsimracer68 (AT) yahoo (DOT) comSPAM> wrote in message news:aba443tp468n01uda10rmp4s2btsh9ikoc (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... snips Yes, I saw this earlier. And now I see a denial at Jasykis by HMS over the whole deal. Personally, when I see Mulhern post something, I wait for comfirmation since he's usually wrong about 80% of the time on these SWAGs* he puts out. And now a kinda-sorta denial from Hendrick Motorsports General Manager Marshall Carlson who goes on about how they already have 4 drivers. Oh. I only see ink about 3 of 'em. |
Hendrick cars early on to tell RH if it was HP or setup holding them
back) I just can't see Junior going over there and uprooting Casey
Mears "just" to get into the 25. The 25 has been the proverbial R&D
car over there since the time just after Tim Richmond left the
seat...And we KNOW that JG and JJ aren't going anywhere, and I highly
doubt that RH will let a Busch go at his young of an age.
No, it's either gonna be RCR, JGR or JR Motorsports, IMO of course. I
can't see him trying to win a title out of the Ginn or Haas/CNC camps
even if they do buy cars and engines from HMS.
If he decides that Chevy isn't in the cards, then all bets are off as
to where he lands. Ganassi, Penske, Evernham, Toyota, they'd all saw
off minor body parts to land him as a driver at this point I'd
imagine.
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**IF** Joonyer leaves DEI at the end of '07, it will be to team up with RCR. Mark my words. I don't know that a #3 car is in the cards, dunno if I'd even want him to get into that much of an emotional situation, but RC has his back (JR Motorsports runs RC Racing Engines exclusively) and DEJ knows he could count on RC to give him absolutely everything that money could buy in an effort to win him a title, something that Teresa doesn't appear to be doing or even willing to do at this point. I guess no one has dared to show her the marketing upside of winning a Cup lately... Yes, I know the most hoped-for outcome by many of the red nation is to become a black nation with an 8 or a 3. Yer right that it would be a huge emotional load. |
Junior and not just Dale's son. To get into the 3, would be stepping
right back into his dad's shoes and shadow, which is part of what he
is trying to get out of as it is IMO. I'd like to see him, somehow, be
able to keep the 8 or just take on a whole new number, wherever he may
end up. Honestly, I don't see TEI (what it is to me know) letting go
of the 8, so it's likely going to be a brand new number for the
kid...which is fine so long as it isn't 6.7 ;-)
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We *know* that Junior wants a title...DEI's, JRM's, RCR's or HMS's...machs nix to him, I'd bet. |
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able to keep the 8 or just take on a whole new number, wherever he may end up. Honestly, I don't see TEI (what it is to me know) letting go of the 8, so it's likely going to be a brand new number for the kid...which is fine so long as it isn't 6.7 ;-) |
going to let go of the # 8, and he's probably correct.
N.
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is trying to get out of as it is IMO. I'd like to see him, somehow, be able to keep the 8 or just take on a whole new number, wherever he may end up. Honestly, I don't see TEI (what it is to me know) letting go of the 8, so it's likely going to be a brand new number for the kid...which is fine so long as it isn't 6.7 ;-) Jr. said during the press conference, that he believed Teresa was not going to let go of the # 8, and he's probably correct. N. |
hang onto the #8" (I watched it live too). AND he also said that the
"teams own the numbers" when we know it is NASCAR that does. Teams
have certain "rights" to the numbers, but do not "own" them.
Doesn't matter anyway, Dale Earnhardt Inc without a Dale Earnhardt, is
a museum ($ to whomever). The number will be available soon
regardless, as will the 1 and 15. ;-) Teresa will have to merge or be
acquired to stay alive now that the golden goose has flown the coupe
IMO. Depends on whether or not Richie Gilmore and Steve Hmiel stay or
leave, certainly since (and totally IMHO) they were still there
because of Junior. Ty Norris had already bolted and gone to MWR, I
can't see these last 2 MAJOR DES hires staying there for more than the
rest of this season. Gilmore will likely go back to Hendrick, and
Hmiel back to Roush...
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It's not just that. This move, to me, says Junior is ready to be Junior and not just Dale's son. To get into the 3, would be stepping right back into his dad's shoes and shadow, which is part of what he is trying to get out of as it is IMO. |
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I'd like to see him, somehow, be able to keep the 8 or just take on a whole new number, wherever he may end up. |
add 'and beyond'!
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Honestly, I don't see TEI (what it is to me now) |
it enuff to steal it, too.!
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letting go of the 8, so it's likely going to be a brand new number for the kid...which is fine so long as it isn't 6.7 ;-) |
garage door paint job, a haircut...what else besides the tat?
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"SimRacer" <NOsimracer68 (AT) yahoo (DOT) comSPAM> wrote in message news:vdu643t2h878nrafnpqi69q89qq6tktm4g (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... snip It's not just that. This move, to me, says Junior is ready to be Junior and not just Dale's son. To get into the 3, would be stepping right back into his dad's shoes and shadow, which is part of what he is trying to get out of as it is IMO. Good point. |
and left me (and my mom) the family business. I pretty much had to
take it over and run it my way so it would survive well enough to keep
us talking to each other...So I certainly get trying to climb out of
the shell, in your 30s (I was 29 when my step-dad passed away) and
blazing your own trail. You can still respect your dad's memory by
doing your own thing IMO. Provided that your "own thing" continues to
build on what they intended for you to have, and moves you personally
and professionally ahead in life.
I've had to do it twice, though not in business. My actual dad passed
away when I was 10, maybe 11, and I was almost legal drinking age
before I felt like I had emerged from his shadow (as he was a "famous"
rebel rouser, partier, drinker, etc around these parts, and I too am a
Junior, and carry his name to this day).
AND GRANTED, our deal wasn't as spectacular of a loss, and our company
wasn't worth $100,000,000, but the family dynamics are pretty close
based on what I know of Junior's situation - so I feel for him on a
personal level that some, maybe even most, of his fans and haters may
not even really grasp or realize is happening.
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I'd like to see him, somehow, be able to keep the 8 or just take on a whole new number, wherever he may end up. Elsewhere I (jokingly) referred to '...the 08 car in '08...' and the promos could add 'and beyond'! |
office. I though, hmm, an 08 might work...BUT, it will be whatever it
will be. We'll find out soon enough I guess. Put him with RCR and 08
works (Bowyer is 07 right?) as does the 30. Put him in at JGR and I'm
afraid Yeley may get the boot to the NBS...Though I like green race
cars about as much as I like Blue Ovals...lol (The whole Budweiser/Joe
Gibbs The Staunch Christian conflict may prevent that from even being
considered anyway I guess...also fine, at least Joe has some
conviction)
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Honestly, I don't see TEI (what it is to me now) Heh-heh! Viv Berstein (NY Times) used that in the presser Q&A session...I liked it enuff to steal it, too.! |
way for some time.
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letting go of the 8, so it's likely going to be a brand new number for the kid...which is fine so long as it isn't 6.7 ;-) Less-see...what else was in that commercial?...the topiary never got shredded, a garage door paint job, a haircut...what else besides the tat? |
I have a personalized NC license plate on one of my vehicles that has
a reference to being a fan of the 8 car on it. The wife and I last
night started discussing keeping it, or trying to change it, or just
waiting to see what happens. Ain't a biggie really, but if he doesn't
land with the 8, and TEI keeps it and changes to Ford OR plugs a
driver into it that we aren't fond of, I can see it getting changed
ASAP, costs be damned - even if it is just back to a regular old
"First In Flight" generic random alphanumeric deal...So I am one of
those that it affects, though I ain't going to go running around and
screaming worrying about it or even all hyped up to change it to
whatever new number he ends up with. It's just a license plate for
Gawd's sake.
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I can't imagine them being farther apart right now, too. 55 million for a majority ownership is stupid, especially when they are talking about merging with Yates. If that were a 100 million dollar organization, they wouldn't be talking mergers, especially since I see it as a buyout from Yates, moving to Ford engines. It could be no other way with Yates making engines for so many teams. -- |
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