Sponsors stick with Waltrip, dump DEI

#11

SimRacer <nOspaM@simracer68 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> spewed:

Quote:

Rob's put out a bunch of lines for Earnhardt fans over a few posts
here, and got a few bites it looks like.

I'm not really anti-DEI... just pro-Mikey. ;-)

(and I know the j00nyer fans get riled easily)
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#12

"Bill Jonesi" <jonesi (AT) pcmagic (DOT) net> wrote

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Billy Ryman wrote:

So? Waltrip years ago had Pennzoil, he didn't exactly tear-up the
tracks,
did he?

If the truth is known, he paid Teresa for the NAPA sponsorship,
otherwise he
wouldn't have a ride.

It's going to be interesting to see how MichaelWaltripMotorsports does
without DEI engine support.

It's going to be very challenging for him this year! He's switching to
Dodge but won't get much Dodge help since he's associated with Bill
Davis who (along with DW) is strongly rumored to be going to Toyota when
they enter Cup/Busch series. He's starting with no points so he has to
race/qualify his way into the first five events before any
(provisionals/top 35) kick in. He's got to hit four different
chassis/engine setups right and hope no qualifing gets rained out or
he's in a big hole by April.

DAYTONA SPDWY (plate race)
CALIFORNIA SPDWY (usually high speed econo run)
LAS VEGAS M.S. (cookie cutter)
ATLANTA M.S. (cookie cutter)
BRISTOL (short track)

I'm down with most of that, but in a hardcore sense, LV isn't a cookie
cutter track. That term, IMHO, is more about the banked 1.5 mile tracks on
the circuit. Like Charlotte, Texas, Atlanta, and "maybe" Kansas and Chicago,
though their banking is minimal in comparison.

Las Vegas, IMO, races more like a shorter California than it does an Atlanta
or Texas, or Charlotte. LV is also like Cali and Michigan in that they have
to basically lead the car around the track by the RR wheel (car stays in a
perpetual "loose" condition, or it won't turn) and that's a setup trait not
really called for at the high banks of the sister D-oval tracks in of the
South. You can usually still be fast at those tracks with more of a neutral
setup, that gets loose as the run goes on. You have to start out loose at
Vegas or you get lapped, quickly.

Regardless, it will be interseting to see how the 55 car does the first few
races, without any owner's points to fall back on, you're right about that.

#13

"SimRacer" <nOspaM@simracer68 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

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"Robert J Batina" <rbatina (AT) columbus (DOT) rr.com> wrote in message
news:ab5yf.10424$PY6.40 (AT) tornado (DOT) ohiordc.rr.com...
Of course everyone knows that Napa decided that they didn't want to sink
with the DEI ship, and they went with Michael Waltrip as primary sponsor
of his #55 BDR ride. Well, now Dominos has officially announced that they
too have followed Waltrip to his new team as an associate sponsor. This
shows a couple of things... being a great driver isn't everything, and
being involved with an Earnhardt ain't what it used to be.
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I wasn't going to bite on any of Rob's obvious bait here the past little
bit, but you're response is just too funny. Mainly because of the truth it
contains, but is funny nonetheless.

Rob's put out a bunch of lines for Earnhardt fans over a few posts here, and
got a few bites it looks like.

I'm equally impressed with Sim's maturity not biting so hard on Earnhardt bait.

As it is true that Mikey has established an 0fer79 winless streak with DEI,
it also appears that being involved with an Earnhardt ain't what it used to be.
It also appears that sponsors will support Mikey for another 0fer463 Winless streak!
The Corporate Mind & The NA$CAr Mind seems to be an enigma.
CRU

#14

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:03:43 -0500, Crusader wrote:

Quote:

The Corporate Mind & The NA$CAr Mind seems to be an enigma.

The wife was flipping thru channels last night and I caught bits and pieces of
that Discovery Channel show with the auditions for Roush's truck ride.

They were coaching the participants on the proper victory lane etiquette,
wondering how their personalities would go over with potential sponsors, etc.
Seemed to me they were looking for a whole lot more than who could get the truck
around the track the fastest, which is a sad commentary on the state of NASCAR.

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#15

On 17 Jan 2006 10:38:37 -0800, H.B. Elkins <hbelkins (AT) mis (DOT) net.restrictorplate>
wrote:

Quote:

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:03:43 -0500, Crusader wrote:

The Corporate Mind & The NA$CAr Mind seems to be an enigma.

The wife was flipping thru channels last night and I caught bits and pieces of
that Discovery Channel show with the auditions for Roush's truck ride.

They were coaching the participants on the proper victory lane etiquette,
wondering how their personalities would go over with potential sponsors, etc.
Seemed to me they were looking for a whole lot more than who could get the truck
around the track the fastest, which is a sad commentary on the state of NASCAR.

Several weeks ago I watched the Roush auditions for the Busch Series.

Here were these grown men in a room saying things like, "Well he *is* a good
looking kid. He has a nice personality. He smiles a lot. The media department
likes him. He really impressed the sponsors." Oh! By the by, can he race?

I thought they were looking for a spokesman for the team not a driver.
--
Paul of El Cajon

#16

Paul wrote:

Quote:

On 17 Jan 2006 10:38:37 -0800, H.B. Elkins <hbelkins (AT) mis (DOT) net.restrictorplate
wrote:

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:03:43 -0500, Crusader wrote:

The Corporate Mind & The NA$CAr Mind seems to be an enigma.

The wife was flipping thru channels last night and I caught bits and pieces of
that Discovery Channel show with the auditions for Roush's truck ride.

They were coaching the participants on the proper victory lane etiquette,
wondering how their personalities would go over with potential sponsors, etc.
Seemed to me they were looking for a whole lot more than who could get the truck
around the track the fastest, which is a sad commentary on the state of NASCAR.

Several weeks ago I watched the Roush auditions for the Busch Series.

Here were these grown men in a room saying things like, "Well he *is* a good
looking kid. He has a nice personality. He smiles a lot. The media department
likes him. He really impressed the sponsors." Oh! By the by, can he race?

I thought they were looking for a spokesman for the team not a driver.
--
Paul of El Cajon

Driver X - it's all about the whole package. All the kids can race to
some degree - that's not the big question. The big question is do they
have what it takes to be a media/sponsor darling AND go fast.
Naturally, some can race better than others. Some of these guys,
though, had never seen some of the tracks before, let alone driven
them, and those I feel sorry for. When they score the applicants, they
count everything, including speed and line on the track, and whether
the drivers know what adjustments to call for - they use Awesome Bill's
speeds as a benchmark, at least in the last couple of episodes.

I'm rooting against the one who has a shape like Bobby Hamilton Jr. -
he's pretty crude, so I don't think he'll get much further in the hunt.

I do wonder why Roush makes such a big deal out of his "gong show" and
the other owners don't. Or maybe they do, and they just don't have
Discovery Channel backing.

N.

#17

On 17 Jan 2006 13:59:26 -0800, "Nancy1" <nancy-dooley (AT) uiowa (DOT) edu> wrote:

Quote:

Driver X - it's all about the whole package. All the kids can race to
some degree - that's not the big question. The big question is do they
have what it takes to be a media/sponsor darling AND go fast.
Naturally, some can race better than others. Some of these guys,
though, had never seen some of the tracks before, let alone driven
them, and those I feel sorry for. When they score the applicants, they
count everything, including speed and line on the track, and whether
the drivers know what adjustments to call for - they use Awesome Bill's
speeds as a benchmark, at least in the last couple of episodes.

I'm rooting against the one who has a shape like Bobby Hamilton Jr. -
he's pretty crude, so I don't think he'll get much further in the hunt.

I do wonder why Roush makes such a big deal out of his "gong show" and
the other owners don't. Or maybe they do, and they just don't have
Discovery Channel backing.

N.

Maybe the other owner's *should* make a big deal out of it. Roush had *five*
cars in the chase last year. He must be doing *something* right the others
aren't.
--
Paul of El Cajon

#18

"H.B. Elkins" <hbelkins (AT) mis (DOT) net.restrictorplate> wrote

Quote:

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:03:43 -0500, Crusader wrote:

The Corporate Mind & The NA$CAr Mind seems to be an enigma.

The wife was flipping thru channels last night and I caught bits and
pieces of
that Discovery Channel show with the auditions for Roush's truck ride.

They were coaching the participants on the proper victory lane etiquette,
wondering how their personalities would go over with potential sponsors,
etc.
Seemed to me they were looking for a whole lot more than who could get the
truck
around the track the fastest, which is a sad commentary on the state of
NASCAR.

Like Kurt Busch and Robbie Gordon?

#19

On 17 Jan 2006 13:59:26 -0800, Nancy1 wrote:

Quote:

When they score the applicants, they
count everything, including speed and line on the track, and whether
the drivers know what adjustments to call for - they use Awesome Bill's
speeds as a benchmark, at least in the last couple of episodes.

The show I saw had the trucks at Darlington, and the benchmark speed was Ricky
Craven's. Wonder how they set that benchmark, why and when?

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#20

On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:48:17 GMT, "bud smith" <budsmith (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>
wrote:

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"H.B. Elkins" <hbelkins (AT) mis (DOT) net.restrictorplate> wrote in message
news:dqjdjd02l9b (AT) drn (DOT) newsguy.com...
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:03:43 -0500, Crusader wrote:

The Corporate Mind & The NA$CAr Mind seems to be an enigma.

The wife was flipping thru channels last night and I caught bits and
pieces of
that Discovery Channel show with the auditions for Roush's truck ride.

They were coaching the participants on the proper victory lane etiquette,
wondering how their personalities would go over with potential sponsors,
etc.
Seemed to me they were looking for a whole lot more than who could get the
truck
around the track the fastest, which is a sad commentary on the state of
NASCAR.

Like Kurt Busch and Robbie Gordon?

This is what makes this show a sham in my opinion. That sponsor crap
can be taught to most people. How do you make a judgement on a 19
year old kid who is used to racing in dirt or on short tracks. And
you are right, Rousch didn't mind Kurt Busch's attitude until he had
practically left the team.