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Default Start and park strategy - 06-14-2009 , 03:03 PM






They said during the early laps of the race that the start and park
strategy was discussed in the pregame show. I sorta watched the
pregame show to see the Invocation and the National Anthem and the
flyover but I must be not been listened to that part.

To the outsider it seems that the overwhelming percentage of the
expenses of getting a car into the race are "sunk costs" and they do
not get a refund for only running a few laps.

The variable costs would appear to be gasoline, tires leased, and
engine wear. Gasoline is too small to be considered so that leaves
tires leased at 500 dollars and the cost of rebuilding or replacing
the engine.

But it could be something else.

Anybody want to clue me in?

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Default Re: Start and park strategy - 06-14-2009 , 08:50 PM






RickyBobby wrote:
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They said during the early laps of the race that the start and park
strategy was discussed in the pregame show. I sorta watched the
pregame show to see the Invocation and the National Anthem and the
flyover but I must be not been listened to that part.

To the outsider it seems that the overwhelming percentage of the
expenses of getting a car into the race are "sunk costs" and they do
not get a refund for only running a few laps.

The variable costs would appear to be gasoline, tires leased, and
engine wear. Gasoline is too small to be considered so that leaves
tires leased at 500 dollars and the cost of rebuilding or replacing
the engine.

But it could be something else.

Anybody want to clue me in?
I thought that the gasoline for the race was provided by Sunoco for free
to the race teams. Is that not true? Or do you mean gas for travel to
and from the race?

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Default Re: Start and park strategy - 06-15-2009 , 12:31 AM



"bilbravo" <zdmcclain (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote

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RickyBobby wrote:
They said during the early laps of the race that the start and park
strategy was discussed in the pregame show. I sorta watched the
pregame show to see the Invocation and the National Anthem and the
flyover but I must be not been listened to that part.

To the outsider it seems that the overwhelming percentage of the
expenses of getting a car into the race are "sunk costs" and they do
not get a refund for only running a few laps.

The variable costs would appear to be gasoline, tires leased, and
engine wear. Gasoline is too small to be considered so that leaves
tires leased at 500 dollars and the cost of rebuilding or replacing
the engine.

But it could be something else.

Anybody want to clue me in?
I thought that the gasoline for the race was provided by Sunoco for free
to the race teams. Is that not true? Or do you mean gas for travel to
and from the race?
Early in the Nationwide season, the 01 and 0 teams were notorious for
startin n parkin. Since they built up some sponsorship and money, they both
ran in the top 25 of late....Since Morgan Shepherd got money from Tony
Stewart, hes posted better finishes too.

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Default Re: Start and park strategy - 06-15-2009 , 06:32 AM



"Riley 77" <rileyflorida (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

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RickyBobby wrote:
They said during the early laps of the race that the start and park
strategy was discussed in the pregame show. I sorta watched the
pregame show to see the Invocation and the National Anthem and the
flyover but I must be not been listened to that part.

To the outsider it seems that the overwhelming percentage of the
expenses of getting a car into the race are "sunk costs" and they do
not get a refund for only running a few laps.

The variable costs would appear to be gasoline, tires leased, and
engine wear. Gasoline is too small to be considered so that leaves
tires leased at 500 dollars and the cost of rebuilding or replacing
the engine.

But it could be something else.

Anybody want to clue me in?
I thought that the gasoline for the race was provided by Sunoco for free
to the race teams. Is that not true? Or do you mean gas for travel to
and from the race?

Early in the Nationwide season, the 01 and 0 teams were notorious for
startin n parkin. Since they built up some sponsorship and money, they
both ran in the top 25 of late....Since Morgan Shepherd got money from
Tony Stewart, hes posted better finishes too.


MSRP

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Default Re: Start and park strategy - 06-15-2009 , 09:24 PM



"RickyBobby" <nascar42 (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote

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They said during the early laps of the race that the start and park
strategy was discussed in the pregame show. I sorta watched the
pregame show to see the Invocation and the National Anthem and the
flyover but I must be not been listened to that part.

To the outsider it seems that the overwhelming percentage of the
expenses of getting a car into the race are "sunk costs" and they do
not get a refund for only running a few laps.

The variable costs would appear to be gasoline, tires leased, and
engine wear. Gasoline is too small to be considered so that leaves
tires leased at 500 dollars and the cost of rebuilding or replacing
the engine.

But it could be something else.

Anybody want to clue me in?
I think I figured this out. They do not want to stay in the race long
enough to get lapped by the cars who are in it for real. So it does not
matter if they run two laps or twenty-two laps as long as they get off the
track before the fast cars come by.

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Default Re: Start and park strategy - 06-16-2009 , 03:49 AM



"RickyBobby" <nascar42 (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote

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They said during the early laps of the race that the start and park
strategy was discussed in the pregame show. I sorta watched the
pregame show to see the Invocation and the National Anthem and the
flyover but I must be not been listened to that part.

To the outsider it seems that the overwhelming percentage of the
expenses of getting a car into the race are "sunk costs" and they do
not get a refund for only running a few laps.

The variable costs would appear to be gasoline, tires leased, and
engine wear. Gasoline is too small to be considered so that leaves
tires leased at 500 dollars and the cost of rebuilding or replacing
the engine.

But it could be something else.

Anybody want to clue me in?

I think I figured this out. They do not want to stay in the race long
enough to get lapped by the cars who are in it for real. So it does not
matter if they run two laps or twenty-two laps as long as they get off the
track before the fast cars come by.
Personally I think keeping the car in good enough order that it can qualify
again without much money being spent is the prime motivator of how many laps
they run. I don't think they specifically drop out because they are in the
way, don't think most give a rats about that, but once lapped they are in
most danger of being wrecked so they want to get off the track to avoid that
risk

The worst serial SnP team, MSRP (who seem to have decent cars too), average
about 17 laps per race per car and usually less than that in practice. If
they don't wreck they can do about 10 races and still be good enough to
qualify in, on minimal spend.. $200,000-$250,000 in prizemoney for an
$80,000-$120,000 outlay (per car) ends up as a handy profit over 10 weeks if
everything goes 'well'

MSRP are very professional about it I think. They don't even appear to want
a sponsor, or to be noticed, in the Nationwide series. It's nothing more
than leaching dollars to fund other series cars I think.

Chad

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