Waltrip = 35th in points?

#11

"Deus vult" <pearl (AT) cray (DOT) com> wrote

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Mike Marlow wrote:

That's the point - when compared to the average joe, he's a better
driver,
but when compared to other competitors, he's not a great driver. What
does
it matter if he's a better driver than me? I don't race him on
weekends.

He'll move up in points once the TuRDs (Toyota Racing Division) move on
in.
They're clearly dominanting trucks right now. Their trucks all finish in
the top-15 each week, unless they're involved in a wreck.

I suspect you are correct in that Toyota will quickly master this game and
establish a pretty dominant role. It may take a couple of years but I think
they'll do it.

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#12

Quister wrote:

Quote:

Yeah he has went back to the same old outspoken but very average race
car driver.
If he could only drive as good as he talks he would run in the top
ten.
I was looking forward to this season so I could see Mickey run in the
back AGAIN.

I don't know what you have against beloved drivers, but you do know he is a
Daytona winner, right? He has also won his share of Busch races, and in
Cup has about 40 top 5 finishes. As such, I wouldn't exactly call him a
field filler.

Interesting side note - the guy is an avid runner and has been in the Boston
Marathon and Tampa Marathon.

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#13

Mike Marlow wrote:

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"Rcypher" <Rcypher (AT) nc (DOT) rr.com> wrote in message
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Hey you might not like him but he is still a good driver that goes
out to race every week in more than one division. That is not just
luck. Even if you do not like him, he is a good businessman.

It's really kind of hard to consider Michael Waltrip a good driver.
His record just doesn't bear that statement out.

4 cup victories, 38 top 5's, and 122 top 10's. He doesn't suck.

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#14

Mike Marlow wrote:

Quote:

That's the point - when compared to the average joe, he's a better
driver, but when compared to other competitors, he's not a great
driver. What does it matter if he's a better driver than me? I
don't race him on weekends.

If there were four classes of drivers: great, good, field filler, and no
business being on the track; I would put him in good, and not field
filler.

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#15

Mike Marlow wrote:

Quote:

I suspect you are correct in that Toyota will quickly master this
game and establish a pretty dominant role. It may take a couple of
years but I think they'll do it.

I suspect lots of folks might leave Dodge for Toyota. Just based on how
rare Dodge wins are.

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#16

On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 13:13:34 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
<mmarlowREMOVE (AT) alltel (DOT) net> wrote:

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"PettyFan" <none (AT) noemail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 08:47:05 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
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"Rcypher" <Rcypher (AT) nc (DOT) rr.com> wrote in message
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Hey you might not like him but he is still a good driver that goes out
to race every week in more than one division. That is not just luck.
Even if you do not like him, he is a good businessman.

It's really kind of hard to consider Michael Waltrip a good driver. His
record just doesn't bear that statement out. Racing in the minor league
divisions isn't much of a statement of a driver's ability either.
Actually
some might suggest quite the opposite. He may well be a good businessman
(that's unproven at this point), but racing is about driving cars, not
business acumen.

and he must be a better driver then you are! as he is DRIVING in NC
AND you are not!

That's the point - when compared to the average joe, he's a better driver,
but when compared to other competitors, he's not a great driver. What does
it matter if he's a better driver than me? I don't race him on weekends.

then don't insult him for doing what most of us would love to do.

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#17

PettyFan wrote:

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On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 13:13:34 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
That's the point - when compared to the average joe, he's a better
driver, but when compared to other competitors, he's not a great
driver. What does it matter if he's a better driver than me? I
don't race him on weekends.

then don't insult him for doing what most of us would love to do.

He is better than some, and not as successful as others. OTOH, how many
of today's drivers have not won a Daytona 500? I bet they would give their
eye tooth to do so.

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#18

On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:51:59 -0500, "The Hammer"
<HammerDrops (AT) bullshit (DOT) stops> wrote:

Quote:

PettyFan wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 13:13:34 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
That's the point - when compared to the average joe, he's a better
driver, but when compared to other competitors, he's not a great
driver. What does it matter if he's a better driver than me? I
don't race him on weekends.

then don't insult him for doing what most of us would love to do.

He is better than some, and not as successful as others. OTOH, how many
of today's drivers have not won a Daytona 500? I bet they would give their
eye tooth to do so.
very true.

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#19

The Hammer wrote:

Quote:

Quister wrote:
Yeah he has went back to the same old outspoken but very average race
car driver.
If he could only drive as good as he talks he would run in the top
ten.
I was looking forward to this season so I could see Mickey run in the
back AGAIN.

I don't know what you have against beloved drivers, but you do know he is a
Daytona winner, right? He has also won his share of Busch races, and in
Cup has about 40 top 5 finishes. As such, I wouldn't exactly call him a
field filler.

Interesting side note - the guy is an avid runner and has been in the Boston
Marathon and Tampa Marathon.

One more thought.......When you get to drive a Nextel cup car on a
regular basis you have to be a good driver - you don't just get a pass
to drive in the series. It is an accomplishment just to get into the
series.........think about all of the drivers throughout the country
that would love to just have a shot at being in the series

Cypher

#20

"PettyFan" <none (AT) noemail (DOT) com> wrote

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then don't insult him for doing what most of us would love to do.

It's no insult - it's a matter of statistics. His record is public.
Re-define it all you'd like, but the numbers are the numbers.

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