What will Nascar do to Robby today?

#11

"F~A~R~V~A: The Original Bastard" <flyhighfreeebird (AT) aol (DOT) compost> wrote in
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i laugh at the little minds who believe authority is always
right........ONE
MAN IN THE RIGHT IS A MAJORITY.

Unless there are others.

#12

In article mike_z (AT) excite (DOT) com wrote:

Quote:

NASCAR already has a credibility problem and is compared to WWE more
and more every day.

Yeah.
By about a dozen people on a piddly newsgroup.
Never heard it on tv.
Never read it in real media.
I don't think NASCAR is hurting too bad.

Dan
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Why are there flotation devices in the seats of planes instead of parachutes?

#13

Chuck Steak wrote:

Quote:

In article mike_z (AT) excite (DOT) com wrote:

NASCAR already has a credibility problem and is compared to WWE more
and more every day.

Yeah.
By about a dozen people on a piddly newsgroup.
Never heard it on tv.
Never read it in real media.
I don't think NASCAR is hurting too bad.

Dan
****************************************
Why are there flotation devices in the seats of planes instead of parachutes?

You don't get out of that cardboard box under the bridge very much do
you....

#14

NASCAR was in the wrong!
They never should have trrown the green flag while Robby was contesting his
position!

Had Gordon raced Ambrose clean, for the win or second I could see his
position, but he took out the race leader on pupose!

My opinion (yes, everyone has one, most stink!) Gordon OWES Ambroes the BEST
car at The Glen! If Robby qualifies and Marcus does not, Robby should suck
it up step aside, and let Ambrose dive his car!!!

"Anthony Fremont" <anyone (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

Mike Smith wrote:
On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 05:32:02 -0700, Mark <mblackwell1958 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com
wrote:

Well its fine day. (no not a fine day or at least it hasn't started
that way) I wonder what Nascar will add on to Robby's penalty.
Frankly if they do much more to him, we should start turning the set
off and would encourage others that think he was treated unfairly to
do likewise.

$35K/probation is a slap on the wrist and shows NASCAR is not serious
about penalizing assholes like him. We should turn off the TV for a
penalty which is too lenient.

The only leniency I see is that KH and MA didn't get penalized for
wrecking other cars.

Right or wrong, he should have listened to NASCAR, now he is
showboating and still proclaiming that "he is right" and NASCAR is
wrong.

With that minor penalty, it appears that NASCAR thinks it was the one in
the wrong. This is just face-saving on the part of NASCAR IMO.

#15

In article Cal Vanize <dont.even.spam.me (AT) myspam (DOT) org> wrote:

Quote:

Chuck Steak wrote:

NASCAR already has a credibility problem and is compared to WWE more
and more every day.

Yeah.
By about a dozen people on a piddly newsgroup.
Never heard it on tv.
Never read it in real media.
I don't think NASCAR is hurting too bad.

Quote:

You don't get out of that cardboard box under the bridge very much do
you....

I'd be happy to read anything you can provide,
explaining how badly NASCAR is 'hurting' in 2007.
Or, has a major credibility problem.
Byliving under the bridge, I rely on people like you
to show me the truth. And I welcome it.

I'm not talking about a slight decline in viewership on tv,
nor am I talking about selling 135,000 seats in a 150,000 seat arena.
Those are spikes. Plenty of reasons why attendance could be off.
Show me where NASCAR is worried. I want to see it.
Show me the throngs of professionals, that feel NASCAR is
more like WWE than racing, and that the fans are consistently dropping
like flies.

The races I have been to this year, look exactly like the ones I have been
going to for years.. The people scream as loud, and the lines at the
trailers are just as big.

Dan
****************************************
Why are there flotation devices in the seats of planes instead of parachutes?

#16

chuck_steak (AT) nospam (DOT) com (Chuck Steak) wrote in
news:b47ui.16234$ls4.15788@trndny07:

Quote:

In article mike_z (AT) excite (DOT) com wrote:

NASCAR already has a credibility problem and is compared to WWE more
and more every day.

Yeah.
By about a dozen people on a piddly newsgroup.
Never heard it on tv.
Never read it in real media.

I don't know about "more and more every day", but when Tony made
that comparison it made the mainstream media.

John

#17

"Chuck Steak" <chuck_steak (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

In article Cal Vanize <dont.even.spam.me (AT) myspam (DOT) org> wrote:

Chuck Steak wrote:

NASCAR already has a credibility problem and is compared to WWE more
and more every day.

Yeah.
By about a dozen people on a piddly newsgroup.
Never heard it on tv.
Never read it in real media.
I don't think NASCAR is hurting too bad.

You don't get out of that cardboard box under the bridge very much do
you....

I'd be happy to read anything you can provide,
explaining how badly NASCAR is 'hurting' in 2007.
Or, has a major credibility problem.
Byliving under the bridge, I rely on people like you
to show me the truth. And I welcome it.

I'm not talking about a slight decline in viewership on tv,
nor am I talking about selling 135,000 seats in a 150,000 seat arena.
Those are spikes. Plenty of reasons why attendance could be off.
Show me where NASCAR is worried. I want to see it.
Show me the throngs of professionals, that feel NASCAR is
more like WWE than racing, and that the fans are consistently dropping
like flies.

The races I have been to this year, look exactly like the ones I have
been
going to for years.. The people scream as loud, and the lines at the
trailers are just as big.

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FTR I think this is more than a slight decline:

"ESPN earned just a 4.2 Nielsen rating for its 2007 NASCAR debut last week
at Indianapolis, a 24 percent drop from last year's race on NBC. Then
again, maybe that was a good thing, because it meant that many fewer
people saw the miserable way ESPN handled the end of the race, failing to
show any drivers other than the winner crossing the finish line. Plus, the
order of finish behind winner Tony Stewart wasn't seen for nearly two full
minutes after the race."
-- San Diego Union-Tribune

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"NASCAR officials refuse to panic as ratings drop"

By Nate Ryan, USA TODAY
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/motor/nascar/2007-04-19-tv-ratings_N.htm

"With more story lines to sell, NASCAR still is luring fewer eyeballs to
its races."

"Ratings are down 11% for the first seven Nextel Cup Series races this
season despite the ballyhooed debuts of Toyota, Juan Pablo Montoya and the
Car of Tomorrow. Ratings also were off in the Busch Series, which has been
promoted heavily by ESPN as part of the network's return to NASCAR."

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"NASCAR TV ratings down, but younger viewership up"

By Sporting News Wire Service
June 26, 2007
http://www.nascar.com/2007/news/business/06/26/nascar.tv.ratings/index.html?eref=/rss/news/business

"FOX's average viewership on nine Nextel Cup races was down 9.1 percent
(9.71 million viewers vs. 10.68 million) overall compared with nine
comparable races from 2006, and its rating suffered a 10 percent drop (5.8
vs. 6.4). That's a slightly steeper decline than last year's 7 percent
drop for FOX's entire package of races."

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No offense, Dan, but it appears much more than "a dozen people on a piddly
newsgroup" have lost respect and/or interest in NASCAR, and the figures
are rising.

#18

On Aug 7, 4:16 pm, Mike Smith <mik... (AT) excite (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:

On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 09:17:41 -0400, Gordon <jimmyga... (AT) gmail (DOT) com
wrote:

Mark wrote:
Well its fine day. (no not a fine day or at least it hasn't started
that way) I wonder what Nascar will add on to Robby's penalty.
Frankly if they do much more to him, we should start turning the set
off and would encourage others that think he was treated unfairly to
do likewise.

We can only hope N has reviewed the tapes and realized their mistake.
Tell RG, "let's just move on from here". Doubtful knowing N's track
record. (no pun intended)

Question for you, how did the damage get on the back of Ambrose's car
when he spun Gordon? I bet Gordon passed under the yellow.

G

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Yes he got into the back of Ambrose just slightly but that was at the
beginning of the corner. It was light contact in a place where it
would be a racing incident and totally accidental. The damage was
light enough that it was consistent with light contact and it didn't
upset the car there, but it may have ticked MA off. I wondered if
Ambrose got into the corner less aggressively than everyone expected,
cause the KH incident was not far behind that. The actual pass came
later without contact. Robby had to get the car partly in the grass
to pull it off. Maybe he made the pass under yellow, maybe not. I am
not sure there is really anyway to know for sure. Doesn't matter. IF
they were both put 1, 2 as far as I am concerned it wouldn't have
mattered. Either way would be fair. If you penalized Robby for
passing under the yellow, you would have to penalize Ambrose for
racing under the yellow. Get them both and its fair. I thought I saw
somewhere that Ambrose admitted he didn't know the yellow was out when
he hit Robby. Again it would be consistent with an experience driver
being able to keep up with whats around him, and a new one barely able
to do so. Robby likely lifted when MA didn't. Following the rules of
caution shouldn't get you sent to 13th.

I wonder when some large team with a car outside the top 35 in points
is going to make Robby an offer he can't refuse and sell. Teams like
Robbys in the NA$CAR of the future won't have a chance.

#19

On Aug 7, 4:36 pm, "Anthony Fremont" <any... (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:

Mike Smith wrote:
On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 05:32:02 -0700, Mark <mblackwell1... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com
wrote:

Well its fine day. (no not a fine day or at least it hasn't started
that way) I wonder what Nascar will add on to Robby's penalty.
Frankly if they do much more to him, we should start turning the set
off and would encourage others that think he was treated unfairly to
do likewise.

$35K/probation is a slap on the wrist and shows NASCAR is not serious
about penalizing assholes like him. We should turn off the TV for a
penalty which is too lenient.

The only leniency I see is that KH and MA didn't get penalized for wrecking
other cars.

Right or wrong, he should have listened to NASCAR, now he is
showboating and still proclaiming that "he is right" and NASCAR is
wrong.

With that minor penalty, it appears that NASCAR thinks it was the one in the
wrong. This is just face-saving on the part of NASCAR IMO.

I agree - that was my first thought. It was a wimpy punishment, which
tells me that Nascar knows it was wrong.

N.

#20

Hammer wrote:

Quote:

"Chuck Steak" <chuck_steak (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:sq8ui.5122$7m5.4578 (AT) trndny02 (DOT) ..
In article Cal Vanize <dont.even.spam.me (AT) myspam (DOT) org> wrote:

Chuck Steak wrote:

NASCAR already has a credibility problem and is compared to WWE
more and more every day.

Yeah.
By about a dozen people on a piddly newsgroup.
Never heard it on tv.
Never read it in real media.
I don't think NASCAR is hurting too bad.

You don't get out of that cardboard box under the bridge very much
do you....

I'd be happy to read anything you can provide,
explaining how badly NASCAR is 'hurting' in 2007.
Or, has a major credibility problem.
Byliving under the bridge, I rely on people like you
to show me the truth. And I welcome it.

I'm not talking about a slight decline in viewership on tv,
nor am I talking about selling 135,000 seats in a 150,000 seat arena.
Those are spikes. Plenty of reasons why attendance could be off.
Show me where NASCAR is worried. I want to see it.
Show me the throngs of professionals, that feel NASCAR is
more like WWE than racing, and that the fans are consistently
dropping like flies.

The races I have been to this year, look exactly like the ones I have
been
going to for years.. The people scream as loud, and the lines at the
trailers are just as big.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

FTR I think this is more than a slight decline:

"ESPN earned just a 4.2 Nielsen rating for its 2007 NASCAR debut last
week at Indianapolis, a 24 percent drop from last year's race on NBC.
Then again, maybe that was a good thing, because it meant that many
fewer people saw the miserable way ESPN handled the end of the race,
failing to show any drivers other than the winner crossing the finish
line. Plus, the order of finish behind winner Tony Stewart wasn't
seen for nearly two full minutes after the race."
-- San Diego Union-Tribune

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"NASCAR officials refuse to panic as ratings drop"

By Nate Ryan, USA TODAY
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/motor/nascar/2007-04-19-tv-ratings_N.htm

"With more story lines to sell, NASCAR still is luring fewer eyeballs
to its races."

"Ratings are down 11% for the first seven Nextel Cup Series races this
season despite the ballyhooed debuts of Toyota, Juan Pablo Montoya
and the Car of Tomorrow. Ratings also were off in the Busch Series,
which has been promoted heavily by ESPN as part of the network's
return to NASCAR."
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"NASCAR TV ratings down, but younger viewership up"

By Sporting News Wire Service
June 26, 2007
http://www.nascar.com/2007/news/business/06/26/nascar.tv.ratings/index.html?eref=/rss/news/business

"FOX's average viewership on nine Nextel Cup races was down 9.1
percent (9.71 million viewers vs. 10.68 million) overall compared
with nine comparable races from 2006, and its rating suffered a 10
percent drop (5.8 vs. 6.4). That's a slightly steeper decline than
last year's 7 percent drop for FOX's entire package of races."

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

No offense, Dan, but it appears much more than "a dozen people on a
piddly newsgroup" have lost respect and/or interest in NASCAR, and
the figures are rising.

I'll second that and add that a bunch of people have called into "Wind
Tunnel" (not advocating, just saying) equating NASCAR racing with wrestling.
Track wraslin'.........

I predict that if they keep it up, they could put themselves into the same
position the WWF found themselves in. How'd you like to see Brian France
have to publicly admit that NASCAR is predominantly a contrived and
manipulated entertainment outlet not to be confused with actual car racing?
;-)